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So theres a bunch of red squirrels around my house that I need to get rid of. I live in the suburbs so shooting them with a rifle is out of the question. So anybody know how to get rid of them? I was thinking maybe an air rifle or something like that. Also is it true red squirrels bite the nuts off of other types or squirrels?
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:58 PM
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You can bait em and wait above in a tree, ready to drop a brick on all their heads.

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Just set up some snares around your home mang.

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BB gun

It possible, I've seen it.
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I don't think they bite other squirrels balls off..

Anyway, but one of those Gamo air rifles with the little suppressors on the end.

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/gamo-whi...ir-rifle.shtml

That one comes with a scope. Zero it in and you'll be able to put pellets between their eyes. Also, customer reviews say that the special pellets that come with it (Gamo's PBA Pellets) seem to make the gun louder. Use good lead ones for the least noise.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/JSB_Di...omed_500ct/388

Best pellets. Most consistent, most accurate. They're made by a very small Czech factory. 20 employees overseen by Josef Schulz Bohumen, a former sport shooter. 5 employees manufacture the pellets, 15 of them do visual checks of the pellets.

Fuck squirrels.

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BB gun

It possible, I've seen it.
Pellet rifle, the ones you have to pump up, and just get a box of pellets. When you see one, just shoot it. If it dies, which it likely will, squirrel is good eatin.
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Get a neighborhood petition to get rid of squirrals, Get traps, and move them a few miles away.
Why U WannA hert them u sick sob!
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Get a neighborhood petition to get rid of squirrals, Get traps, and move them a few miles away.
Why U WannA hert them u sick sob!
It's more entertaining, will help sharpen his shooting and will likely teach squirrels to avoid his property.
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Build some simple deadfall traps if you don't have a pellet gun and don't want to buy one. There are some pretty simple, yet effective, deadfall traps that you make. A quick Google search will give you some easy ones to make.
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small rodents like squirrels will eventually catch on to the trick of using snares.
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Shoot them.

If you can get access to a bolt action .22 or preferably a single shot .22, go to Walmart and buy something called CCI .22 CB Short rounds. They are a 29 grain bullet at roughly 700 feet per second and they contain a very small amount of gun powder, so they are extremely silent.

My single shot Sears .22 with CB Shorts is quieter than any of my pump-up air rifles, but it is much more powerful and kills squirrels easier than even the most powerful air rifles.

If you choose to do this, be aware that many of the CB rounds that hit a squirrel WILL go completely through it and still retain enough energy to injure someone or, at the very least, destroy property. So make sure that you are shooting in a safe direction.

Also, you absolutely must buy .22 CB Shorts as there are rounds just called .22 Short and they are significantly louder than ones with the CB designation, the CB designation denotes the round as a "Gallery" or "Low Power" round and they are quiet enough for urban use.

Hell you could even shoot them (.22 CB Shorts) inside your house with absolutely no hearing protection if you had a well built back stop.
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Shoot them.

If you can get access to a bolt action .22 or preferably a single shot .22, go to Walmart and buy something called CCI .22 CB Short rounds. They are a 29 grain bullet at roughly 700 feet per second and they contain a very small amount of gun powder, so they are extremely silent.

My single shot Sears .22 with CB Shorts is quieter than any of my pump-up air rifles, but it is much more powerful and kills squirrels easier than even the most powerful air rifles.

If you choose to do this, be aware that many of the CB rounds that hit a squirrel WILL go completely through it and still retain enough energy to injure someone or, at the very least, destroy property. So make sure that you are shooting in a safe direction.

Also, you absolutely must buy .22 CB Shorts as there are rounds just called .22 Short and they are significantly louder than ones with the CB designation, the CB designation denotes the round as a "Gallery" or "Low Power" round and they are quiet enough for urban use.

Hell you could even shoot them (.22 CB Shorts) inside your house with absolutely no hearing protection if you had a well built back stop.
haha if they are getting on a feeder or something you could get snake shot and pop them with that if you can get close. i don't know how effective it would be though. It is quiet also.
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haha if they are getting on a feeder or something you could get snake shot and pop them with that if you can get close. i don't know how effective it would be though. It is quiet also.
I shot at a vole at (literally) a range of 2 feet with a .22 shotshell from my Sears Model 1 and it didn't do shit.

Granted, they were the "crimped" .22 shotshells and not the blue plastic ones.

The blue plastic ones pattern much denser.

But squirrels are tough as hell.

I had one absorb 4 or 5 CB rounds from 2 shooters (4 or 5 total, not each) and it still climbed to the top of a tree before it died and fell down like 60 feet.
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:11 AM
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I shot at a vole at (literally) a range of 2 feet with a .22 shotshell from my Sears Model 1 and it didn't do shit.

Granted, they were the "crimped" .22 shotshells and not the blue plastic ones.

The blue plastic ones pattern much denser.

But squirrels are tough as hell.

I had one absorb 4 or 5 CB rounds from 2 shooters (4 or 5 total, not each) and it still climbed to the top of a tree before it died and fell down like 60 feet.
Yeah, I had my doubts. It would be plenty quiet. The only shot shells I have heard/seen are the CCi blue plastic ones and that was out of a marlin model 60. The bolt didn't cycle of course.
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If your gonna use an air rifle buy pellets that are pointed ive found that dome (not head) pellets dont kill as well.
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Why do you need to get rid of them?
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They are pest animals.

They can nest in your attic and chew through wires and tear up insulation.
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If your gonna use an air rifle buy pellets that are pointed ive found that dome (not head) pellets dont kill as well.
I've found that domed pellets work much better than pointed ones, and if your air rifle has sufficient velocity or is .22 caliber, flat head pellets actually work the best.

I have never shot anything with my Benjamin Sheridan 392 (pump up 550 feet per second .22 airgun) that survived after being hit with a Daisy Flat Head pellet.

It's almost instant death with chest shots.

I've made the exact same shots with a 900 feet per second .177 Gamo Shadow using pointed, domed, and hollow point pellets and have still had targets not die nearly as fast as when they are hit with my 392 and flat heads, most even required a second shot.

In fact, I would actually go as far as to say .177 airguns suck for anything more than shooting at paper targets.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:15 AM
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I have a huge squirrel problem...

Keeps me busy for hours.
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In fact, I would actually go as far as to say .177 airguns suck for anything more than shooting at paper targets.
I had a Gamo P-23 awhile back. On a new C02 cylinder, with a pointed pellet it would easily penetrate .125" pine board. From an angle, too. 3 times (got bored after that and danced a can down the hallway)

According to Gamo's site, that was about 400FPS.

Oh, and it could penetrate human skin easily enough. No idea how fresh that cylinder was. Went deep enough I couldn't dig the pellet out with my SAK.
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Pellet rifle, the ones you have to pump up, and just get a box of pellets. When you see one, just shoot it. If it dies, which it likely will, squirrel is good eatin.
Air Rifle

I'm getting the first one soon, there are tons of critters running around these woods and my trigger finger is getting itchy.
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Air Rifle

I'm getting the first one soon, there are tons of critters running around these woods and my trigger finger is getting itchy.
To be honest, the 1077 won't work too well on squirrels.
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Out of curiosity, do you say that because it's too slow (650 FPS), or because it's inaccurate?
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Out of curiosity, do you say that because it's too slow (650 FPS), or because it's inaccurate?
Oh, they're pretty accurate.

But they are way too slow.

You are looking at a realistic velocity of 525 feet per second with pellets.

Plus it's a semiautomatic CO2 rifle, so your power bleeds off quickly.
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I know that's not much compared to actual firearms, but it still seems enough to penetrate the skin of a squirrel, or at least hurt it pretty bad?

I suppose when you compare the two, the other one is much more powerful, I'd just never think you'd need much to hurt a squirrel of all things.
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Well, if you want to hurt them the 1077 would be fine.

But by doing that you risk having them die somewhere that you wouldn't want them to.

You don't want a bunch of injured squirrels crawling off into the yards of your neighbors and dying with obvious pellet gun holes in them. And you especially don't want injured squirrels somehow getting into your attic, dying there, and stinking up the whole house when the begin to rot.

I have been into airguns a very long time and I definitely have found different guns that I prefer for different things, so I am mainly speaking from my experiences and giving my opinions. If you feel you can make the proper kill shots with a 1077, I would say to get it. But I have used one and I was really unimpressed with its effect on squirrels and even larger birds like crows.

I would definitely suggest a higher powered pump up rifle. They aren't as fast firing as the 1077, but they are more accurate, more powerful, and you don't have to change out expensive CO2 cartridges every 50 rounds.

Off the top of my head I can say that one easily available airgun that works great for squirrels is the Crosman 2100 which is a .177 caliber 700 feet per second pump up rifle that is very very accurate and is actually cheaper than the 1077.

Like I said, if you can do what you need to do with the 1077 then by all means get it. But I know you won't be disappointed with the 2100.
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you could use cobrilis or super cobrilis out of a long barrel .22 and they work as good as the cb rounds but i find them a bit quiter out of my longer barreled bolt action the smack on the target is louder than the shot and they go at least 60 pages into a dry phone book at 10 feet.

slingshots work too

if you really want to be quiet make one of those snares that goes on something they want to walk across and just kill them that way
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get a slingshot. one of the wrist-mounted ones. my old neighbour had a couple of loudass greys - a high speed pebble to the head will knock them the fuck out and usually kill em too. almost as satisfying as shooting them but it's cool in its own way
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I have a Daisy Powerline 880 that I used to shoot squirrels. I also used pointed pellets. Gah I love my bb gun <3

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Forget about the pointed pellets, HP's and so on, with a regular air rifle shot placement is a lot more important than anything else as it's assumed you wouldn't use some under powered POS for hunting or pest control...

All the air rifle competition shooters I've talked to use diablo's as they're by far the most accurate pellet type there is. But, you'll have to look around for the right brand as not all air rifles likes the same make; take my Weihrauch HW 100T for example - the best pellet I've been able to find so far is the Haendler & Natermann Field Target Trophy and even though it's a good quality pellet not all rifles will be accurate with it, as I said, you'll have to look around for the right pellet. I know there's at least one place online where you can find a box with some 25-30 assorted diablo pellets of the most common brands so you won't have to buy 25 tins of pellets and end up with 23 you have no use for, but I can't remember where, try looking here as that's where I saw it mentioned: http://weihrauchowners.freeforums.org/index.php You'll have to sign up but it's well worth your time.

If possible get a PCP rifle and not a springer, the PCP's are generally quieter than the springers and cheaper in the long run than a CO2, have virtually no recoil, and if necessary a follow up shot is faster to deliver as most PCP's are magazine fed.
I'd recommend you go for a Weihrauch, BSA, Daystate, Air Arms, or as previously mentioned, Crosman.

Oh, and go for head shots, squirrels are like rats in that respect - you'd be surprised at how far they can run with a pellet hole in 'em so the only safe and effective way to knock 'em down with an air rifle is to punch a hole through the brain.

Like that, if memory serves that was from 20 m with a ghetto rigged NV scope in the dead of night...
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