Shipping JWH using hold at location or hold for pickup?

[Wooden Pints]

So I might buy some JWH and don't want it shipped to my house. Anyone ever tried shipping it using hold at location (Fedex) or hold for pickup (UPS) where they keep your package at one of their locations until you pick it up? Seems like it should work but I wanna know if anyone has ever tried it.

And how well do most places package their stuff up? Is it obvious that there is a powder in the bag? Because it would seem kinda sketchy if they knew you had powder in the package your picking up.

And I guess this is the right forum, but I'm not totally sure, so feel free to move it if its not.

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Just order it in a regular envelope.


mike (edited by mksnowboarder: if you're gonna try to steal my sig, you'll spell my name right)

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by Weed Smoker

Just order it in a regular envelope.


mihke

He doesn't want it to goto hs house though. If he uses USPS which I am assuming you mean a regular envelope as in USPS then there needs to be a shipping address unless he had a PO box.
You could also order it to a friends house.

Actually though, this coul be an idea. If the op kiddie's parents wouldn't suspect anything if he were getting a letter from a pinpal or something he could pull it off. I mean a package is one thing, but a little letter. I am sure the shipper would be happy to put whatever return address you wanted if you let them know ahead of time, usually they have a box in the check out that says "special notes."

[Headspin]

I have a feeling it isn't such a good idea to hold packages containing drugs at the P.O.

What you could do instead, and would be a safer idea, ship it to a friend's house. Tell him before you do of course.

[Erorr]

Originally Posted by Dream

I have a feeling it isn't such a good idea to hold packages containing drugs at the P.O.

Seriously

[Wooden Pints]

Originally Posted by Dream

I have a feeling it isn't such a good idea to hold packages containing drugs at the P.O.

What you could do instead, and would be a safer idea, ship it to a friend's house. Tell him before you do of course.

Well technically it's at a fedex kinkos store and not a post office.

I don't think they normally check what's in the packages though do they? And drug dogs shouldn't pick anything up.

[Headspin]

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

Well technically it's at a fedex kinkos store and not a post office.

I don't think they normally check what's in the packages though do they? And drug dogs shouldn't pick anything up.

Well, you know what I meant. I don't know if they check the packages, its possible they do a quick scan through machinery. And yeah, drug dogs (if they have them) should not pick up anything, but what if they do?

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

I'm guessing he lives with his parents? Tough shit, if you waste all your cash on substances as I did at that age. You should be able to afford a PO box no matter what else you've failed at regarding life.

Seriously, maybe you're too young to be getting involved with RCs like JWH or anything else. Goddamn, I used drugs when I was 16-18 too, but if I just had free access to whatever I want like these days...no, you have to use and abuse and get crushed by drugs to appreciate them and use them right. I don't give a shit if you read about approximate doses on erowid, it's still not the same as real world experience. Fucking idiots claiming substances they've never touched.

The feds can't arbitrarily read our mail yet. Nor for volume is it likely your shipment of whatever will be bothered.

mike

I agree with you mike. Jwh is not something to be messed with. Really though if he has his mind set on it we can't stop him.

PO box FTW. If not find a friend that can have it shipped to their house. Tell him youll give him a little.

As for the PO boxes, how do they work for minors? not that it really matters but I am curios. Can a minor get one relatively easily?

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by ilovechronic

I agree with you mike. Jwh is not something to be messed with. Really though if he has his mind set on it we can't stop him.

PO box FTW. If not find a friend that can have it shipped to their house. Tell him youll give him a little.

As for the PO boxes, how do they work for minors? not that it really matters but I am curios. Can a minor get one relatively easily?

Wut?! Yu r teh minor, gtfo!.

I don't think there's a restriction on PO boxes for age. You do need valid ID though.

mike

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

Wut?! Yu r teh minor, gtfo!.

I don't think there's a restriction on PO boxes for age. You do need valid ID though.

mike

No the op sounds like one I am not lol.

Even if I was, I wouldn't need to ask about this lol. I can figure most of this stuff out myself, espeacially since we are talking about something that is completely legal anyway.
Haha if I were going to get some jwh, I wouldn't need to post a thread about it. It would already be in my mailbox lol. I have no need for a PO box, I was just curious because people are always suggesting them.

Also, I dont actually know if the op is a minor, there could be ALOT of reasons he doesn't want a powdered substance sent to his home.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by Pharaohfentanyl

The problem with this is that once received. the package is now property of that location until you claim it. So in that period of time they can open it, do some, and call the police. This is why it's not send via Fedex in the first place. Moreover, fedex may exchance 1,000,000 packages a day but I guarantee they "hold for pick up" much less.

If you package gets intercepted by Fedex you look supper guilty. You just happened to open a "hold for pick up" account and then this came in? Where as if you go it sent to your house, and gave the supplier a fake name, you could just say "look, it's not even my name on the package, someone must have sent it to the wrong address"

Good point. this is the rule of thumb for anything illegal for the most part. It all depends. I know private couriers are used for illegal things also though by huge illegal enterprises.
Its true though if the person suspects you of something because your using a PO box they can check your mail.

But in this case it would only bring a little(maybe alot) unwanted attention because it iscurrently legal. Until you could get it cleared up.however; it is best just to avoid that type of confrontation all together.

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Originally Posted by ilovechronic

He doesn't want it to goto hs house though. If he uses USPS which I am assuming you mean a regular envelope as in USPS then there needs to be a shipping address unless he had a PO box.
You could also order it to a friends house.

Actually though, this coul be an idea. If the op kiddie's parents wouldn't suspect anything if he were getting a letter from a pinpal or something he could pull it off. I mean a package is one thing, but a little letter. I am sure the shipper would be happy to put whatever return address you wanted if you let them know ahead of time, usually they have a box in the check out that says "special notes."

that's exactly what i meant cuz. parents will proabbly be like "you have a letter" not say "What'd you order?"

[mksnowboarder]

Lol, try getting one of those sketchy envelopes I've seen from georgia. Shit son. Nah, I got both mine priority mail, but I can just imagine someone's parents seeing that sketchy scrawl from a place they've never heard of.

mike

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

Lol, try getting one of those sketchy envelopes I've seen from georgia. Shit son. Nah, I got both mine priority mail, but I can just imagine someone's parents seeing that sketchy scrawl from a place they've never heard of.

mike

Haha when I first orderd the fertalizer it looked like a post card in a small envelope and the packaging was perfectly flat.
I was over 18 and living at home and my mom was like WTF you getting a postcard or letter from some random country across the world.
Hopefully he has learned you don't have to order these fertalizers from across the world.
Also, whenever sending anything of some kind of value in an envelope atleast double wrap it in paper so you cant see its contents through the light like mk pointed out .(thats for the shippers or whatever)

[Headspin]

I once received an envelope with two business cards stapled together, the goods were in a baggy inside. I think that was a pretty smart idea.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by Dream

I once received an envelope with two business cards stapled together, the goods were in a baggy inside. I think that was a pretty smart idea.

Most people use some kind of variation like that where the contents are covered on both sides. I edited above as you posted this lol. But there are just some dumbass shippes that don't really care or need to be discreet.

In the jhw case I think it is best to be discreet with it anyway.

[Wooden Pints]

Update:
I bought a gram of 73 and a gram of 18 and shipped them to a fedex kinkos. Picked em up today. Everything went smoothly. No suspicion at all from fedex employees as it was shipped in a standard fedex express envelope.

Can't try em out until later tonight but it should be fun. Gonna try the 73 first and attempt to eyeball it since my scale isn't coming in till next week. Anyone have any tips on eyeballing? I'm just gonna start with the smallest amount I can possibly get and smoke it on foil then wait 10 mins or so and see how I feel. Luckily the 73 is a bit more lenient in dosage.

[Wooden Pints]

Originally Posted by Godfrey

Can you rail jwh18?

No you can't. You can just eat it though .

[Fractals]

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

Can't try em out until later tonight but it should be fun. Gonna try the 73 first and attempt to eyeball it since my scale isn't coming in till next week. Anyone have any tips on eyeballing? I'm just gonna start with the smallest amount I can possibly get and smoke it on foil then wait 10 mins or so and see how I feel. Luckily the 73 is a bit more lenient in dosage.

Eyeballing like that is okay with jwh. 5 minutes would be long enough to wait, though.

[SHH]

what does JWH look like in raw form? I've only smoked it in blends.

[0omnidirectional]

Originally Posted by SHH

what does JWH look like in raw form? I've only smoked it in blends.

fine, tan sand.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by 0omnidirectional

fine, tan sand.

the bonsai fert has an orangish tinge. I have also heard of jwh(not sre if it was really 018) being an off white or even white.

[Zoklet.net]

Depends on purity probably.

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Mine was white like the yay!!

[Wooden Pints]

My 073 and 018 are both white like the snow.

Any tips on eyeballing?

[Fractals]

Originally Posted by SHH

what does JWH look like in raw form? I've only smoked it in blends.

It varies, but the white and sandy powders are common. About a year about there was some waxy light-brown powder. I havn't seen or heard of the waxy stuff recently though.

Keep in mind color doesn't necessarily show purity; it's possible for a white powder (or even a clear crystal) to be less pure than a dark tarry mess.

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

My 073 and 018 are both white like the snow.

Any tips on eyeballing?

Ehh you really don't have to be that cautious. There was a big scare over it but like really, it's weed man. You could vape a huge pile of it and be more or less fine. although one time i vaped so much JWH it felt like a legit DXM trip almost, twas crazy.

[Fractals]

Originally Posted by Weed Smoker

Ehh you really don't have to be that cautious. There was a big scare over it but like really, it's weed man. You could vape a huge pile of it and be more or less fine. although one time i vaped so much JWH it felt like a legit DXM trip almost, twas crazy.

I've only had one unpleasant high from jwh but some people have pretty bad trips if they smoke too much. Combine that with how much longer it takes for jwh to hit you than weed and you should definitely be careful and take your time the first couple times you try it.

[Headspin]

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

My 073 and 018 are both white like the snow.

Any tips on eyeballing?

Tip of a knife.

[Fractals]

tip of the long part of a bic pen cap works too

[TheGreenDoctor]

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

So I might buy some JWH and don't want it shipped to my house. Anyone ever tried shipping it using hold at location (Fedex) or hold for pickup (UPS) where they keep your package at one of their locations until you pick it up? Seems like it should work but I wanna know if anyone has ever tried it.

You need to have a valid ID that matches the name and address on the package to pick it up.

Originally Posted by ilovechronic

I am sure the shipper would be happy to put whatever return address you wanted if you let them know ahead of time, usually they have a box in the check out that says "special notes."

I highly doubt the shipper (unless its someone you know) would put a fake return address on a package. Either way, if the person/company has an account, the shipper number (and hence the real return address) is encoded into the shipping label.

Originally Posted by Dream

I have a feeling it isn't such a good idea to hold packages containing drugs at the P.O.

What you could do instead, and would be a safer idea, ship it to a friend's house. Tell him before you do of course.

If its an odorless product, there would be no issues with discovery. If its something that may give off any sort of an odor that's when it could be an issue. Either way, I still would just have it shipped to your or a friends house unless you live near enough to your local terminal.

Originally Posted by Wooden Pints

Well technically it's at a fedex kinkos store and not a post office.

I don't think they normally check what's in the packages though do they? And drug dogs shouldn't pick anything up.

Originally Posted by Dream

Well, you know what I meant. I don't know if they check the packages, its possible they do a quick scan through machinery. And yeah, drug dogs (if they have them) should not pick up anything, but what if they do?

Originally Posted by Pharaohfentanyl

The problem with this is that once received. the package is now property of that location until you claim it. So in that period of time they can open it, do some, and call the police. This is why it's not send via Fedex in the first place. Moreover, fedex may exchance 1,000,000 packages a day but I guarantee they "hold for pick up" much less.

If you package gets intercepted by Fedex you look super guilty. You just happened to open a "hold for pick up" account and then this came in? Where as if you go it sent to your house, and gave the supplier a fake name, you could just say "look, it's not even my name on the package, someone must have sent it to the wrong address"

I'm going to say this super loud so you all can hear me:
WE DO NOT OPEN OR SEARCH REGULAR PACKAGES. THERE SIMPLY IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO SO.
We occasionally do an audit on some pack and ship Kinkos/Office centers for quality assurance, but that should not concern you as it is only specific shipper IDs and you probably wouldn't be having us pack your stuff for you in the first place. If you packed it yourself, you have nothing to worry about, as long as you packed it properly.
The only time a regular package may be opened is: If a package is seriously damaged or leaking, we may repack the contents into a new container, or re-tape the packaging, depending on the seriousness/type of damage. If you lost any questionable items shipping through us, chances are they were discovered by accident.

[Headspin]

Good to know, may I ask for a credible source? Your location says fed ex building... oh.

[TheGreenDoctor]

My source is my experience from 4 1/2 years of working for FedEx Ground.

[Headspin]

Originally Posted by TheGreenDoctor

My source is my experience from 4 1/2 years of working for FedEx Ground.

Right, never doubted you. Just curious.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by TheGreenDoctor

I highly doubt the shipper (unless its someone you know) would put a fake return address on a package. Either way, if the person/company has an account, the shipper number (and hence the real return address) is encoded into the shipping label.

items shipping through us, chances are they were discovered by accident.

Yeah because fed ex and ups are the only mail/shipping services in the US
I know people use private couriers to ship large amounts of vacum sealed lbs of plant matter.
But what everyone was trying to say is private couriers do NOT need a warrant to search a package. USPS needs a warrant or proabable cause.

[TheGreenDoctor]

Originally Posted by ilovechronic

Yeah because fed ex and ups are the only mail/shipping services in the US
I know people use private couriers to ship large amounts of vacum sealed lbs of plant matter.
But what everyone was trying to say is private couriers do NOT need a warrant to search a package. USPS needs a warrant or proabable cause.

I never said that. I only said that in my experience, we have never searched a package solely on suspicion. There would have to be a damn good reason to. We have much more important things to worry about then whats in your package.
The only way anything would be discovered would be if it wasn't packed correctly and became damaged during processing, which has only happened once at my terminal. A small revolver was discovered in a package because the person shipping it did not tape the package shut well enough. When the unloader assigned to that van line picked it up, the gun fell out. They reported it to one of the stricter QA staff and it was processed as an illegal/improper shipment. I would've just taped it up and sent it on its way as I would rather not deal with the extra paperwork.
Besides, the tracking and processing methods are similar no matter what carrier you use, the chances of discovery are roughly the same. If there is a suspicious package being shipped through the USPS, I'm sure they will probably contact the postmaster about it and it will most likely be searched anyway. While my experience pertains more to FedEx's methods, all I did was try to give some insight into processing methods and then said to pack your shipments properly and they should make it to their destinations safely no matter what carrier you use.

[zombo.com]

^ all of the above being true...fed ex and the like are the ones who get all the media mention in shit like CNBC's special on the emerald triangle....
I kinda like it that way..if the media ain't talking about it lets not clue them in neh?