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Question Making and selling JWH-infused weed, or homemade Spice

So, SWIM recently had this idea... after smoking some legal herbal blend that contains JWH variants, he decided to hunt down a supplier for some JWH-018. He found a supplier that seems pretty legit, and realized that with how cheap JWH is, and the sudden interest in legal smoking herbs in his town, he could easily make his own Spice and sell it for less than the headshop and still make a decent amount of profit.

Also, SWIM would like to try "enhancing" normal weed and selling it for bomb weed prices.

With some research, I found this thread:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80749

SWIM's original plan was to simply dissolve a known amount of JWH in a known amount of distilled water, and spray it onto the bud or plant material and then letting it dry out enough to smoke. After looking into it though, I discovered that JWH-018 is somewhat of a hydrophobic compound, so it will not dissolve in water.

Soooo... the new plan is to dissolve it into acetone, then submerge the bud or other plant material in the acetone solution rather than simply spraying it. I'm pretty sure this will work, but I could use some more input and ideas. Also, SWIM could use some more marketing ideas... his original plan was to get all the normal weed buyers in for a "test toke" so they could see if it was really worth the money (this stuff is obviously not going to look like headies, but it'll get you as high if not higher than the best headies in the area). I don't see how the "test toke" won't work with any homemade legal blends as well... people here really seem to like the Spice/K2 equivalent at the headshop.


Anyway, this is the plan. Also, it would be great if anyone could provide me with a link to get some basic chemistry equipment that I could relay to SWIM , I know he will at least need a graduated cylinder if he wants to be able to make an accurate solution.

Also, you can get a pre-paid Visa with cash (without having to show ID) right? SWIM doesn't feel comfortable ordering JWH-018 with his credit card, as his goal is to make the purchases not easily traceable.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:39 AM
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I remember someone making this exact thread a few months ago

And why are you using a CC anyway, just send a money order or something most RC vendors I know of accept cash & money orders
or are you in a rush to get it?
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I remember someone making this exact thread a few months ago

And why are you using a CC anyway, just send a money order or something most RC vendors I know of accept cash & money orders
or are you in a rush to get it?
Never ever send cash. It's untraceable.
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I remember someone making this exact thread a few months ago

And why are you using a CC anyway, just send a money order or something most RC vendors I know of accept cash & money orders
or are you in a rush to get it?
The vendor I found accepts CC's, so I figured that would be the easiest way of acquiring it. If not SWIM can get a money order, or one of those shady AlertPay accounts... has anyone here ever used AlertPay?

SWIM would really like to get it as soon as possible, as he is impatient.
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If it is legal in your state just order it with a cc. It's not like this is any other RC thats $300 a gram, most people selling jwh are legit.

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Old 05-27-2010, 01:49 AM
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this is why rc's are going to be illegal very soon

go for it
order with credit card
i've done it with 4 different products from 4 different vendors
everyone has already thought of this idea, and no need to say "swim"
uhm what else....
try your jwh weed first, i can imagine it'd be intense as fuck to people with little to no tolerance
i took one small hit of jwh herbal blend from a headshop and got high as fuck, some anxiety but i managed to calm myself, i also had great color enhancement and it was psychedelic, the high passed with little to no afterglow, I think I'd rather smoke weed. But then again I don't care if I ever smoke weed again.

lsd is another story though ^_^
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Word of advice. Use 100% acetone or else it will have a horrible taste, you can add it to drum tobacco, you can sell it pure
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:59 AM
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this is why rc's are going to be illegal very soon

go for it
order with credit card
i've done it with 4 different products from 4 different vendors
everyone has already thought of this idea, and no need to say "swim"
uhm what else....
try your jwh weed first, i can imagine it'd be intense as fuck to people with little to no tolerance
i took one small hit of jwh herbal blend from a headshop and got high as fuck, some anxiety but i managed to calm myself, i also had great color enhancement and it was psychedelic, the high passed with little to no afterglow, I think I'd rather smoke weed. But then again I don't care if I ever smoke weed again.

lsd is another story though ^_^
And yeah, I know RC's are all going to be illegal very soon... that's why I had this idea. I also definitely noticed that a JWH high leaves much less afterglow than weed, at least with the blend I smoked it did.

SWIM is fun to use, especially when it makes people here

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Word of advice. Use 100% acetone or else it will have a horrible taste, you can add it to drum tobacco, you can sell it pure
I know this about the acetone... I'm not planning on smoking any impurities and additives left behind by nail polish remover. Where can I get pure acetone...? That stuff is pretty damn strong and flammable, I don't think I can just buy it at Walmart. (if you can though that's great!)
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ummm..isn't acetone a solvent?

i don't think thats going to come out quite like you'd expect.

The oil would probably be tremendous though.
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ummm..isn't acetone a solvent?

i don't think thats going to come out quite like you'd expect.

The oil would probably be tremendous though.
The thread I linked to recommends acetone as the solvent for JWH because it evaporates quickly and JWH dissolves quickly in it. The only other solvent I can think of that would work well would be high purity alcohol, either isopropyl (can't find anything higher than normal rubbing alcohol in most of the stores around here), or Everclear, which not only is expensive, but I'm not even sure I could get it around here...
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The thread I linked to recommends acetone as the solvent for JWH because it evaporates quickly and JWH dissolves quickly in it. The only other solvent I can think of that would work well would be high purity alcohol, either isopropyl (can't find anything higher than normal rubbing alcohol in most of the stores around here), or Everclear, which not only is expensive, but I'm not even sure I could get it around here...
I think he meant that it's gonna fuck with the budz, homie.

Good blends have a bunch of different herbs that are nice to smoke and have some effects of their own, and a mix of synthetic cannabinoids to produce the best effect, so don't just throw it on rolling tobacco and call it a day.

Do a little market research, too.

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I think he meant that it's gonna fuck with the budz, homie.

Good blends have a bunch of different herbs that are nice to smoke and have some effects of their own, and a mix of synthetic cannabinoids to produce the best effect, so don't just throw it on rolling tobacco and call it a day.

Do a little market research, too.

mike
Well what would you recommend as the solvent then? High purity isopropyl? I figured acetone could be used for lacing both weed and any old filler herb.

And yeah, I know good blends are a mix of different herbs and different synthetic cannabinoids, but I'm just tryin to get high yo

I can always tweak the formula when I get a good procedure down.
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I had this idea a while ago, but I'm way too poor to start up. JWH is very hydrophobic, so it won't be so great in water. Try ethanol, acetone, or isopropanol. They should dissolve JWH-018 very well. I was thinking of just sprinkling a little JWH-018 (like 10 mg) over about 500 mg of high-cannabis (high percentage of THC).
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The thread I linked to recommends acetone as the solvent for JWH because it evaporates quickly and JWH dissolves quickly in it. The only other solvent I can think of that would work well would be high purity alcohol, either isopropyl (can't find anything higher than normal rubbing alcohol in most of the stores around here), or Everclear, which not only is expensive, but I'm not even sure I could get it around here...
you understand that thc is ALSO solvent in all of those you just mentioned.....fuckin trolls.
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you understand that thc is ALSO soluble in all of those you just mentioned.....fuckin trolls.
Thats why you spray on just enough to hold the jwh, not so much that it drips off. Sure, some thc will dissolve in the acetone, but when it evaporates the thc will stay on the weed. JWH and THC are both nonpolar, so any solvent that will dissolve JWH will dissolve THC.


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Whatever solvent you use (I've seen acetone recommended), evaporate a little bit off a piece of glass or a flat plate and check if it leaves any residue/oil/scent. If it does, throw it out and find a different brand. ISO will probably work too, but try to get 99%, as any amount of water will lower the solubility. I know you can get a few mg of JWH dissolved in a shot of 80 proof alcohol, but I don't know how much you can dissolve, just that 1 or 2 oral doses will dissolve.

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I almost forgot, SWIM should become an hero. Using SWIM won't protect you from anything, and JWH is legal.
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I almost forgot, SWIM should become an hero. Using SWIM won't protect you from anything, and JWH is legal.
This made SWIM lol since he is high.

Anyway... yeah that's a good point, I really shouldn't just straight up submerge buds in the acetone solution since I'd lose THC. Could I just get one of those mini spray bottles, fill it up with the acetone solution and just spray it on buds?

If I make any legal smoking herb would it be better to submerge or spray?

SWIM's now gonna enjoy the rest of his regular-weed high.



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Anyway... yeah that's a good point, I really shouldn't just straight up submerge buds in the acetone solution since I'd lose THC. Could I just get one of those mini spray bottles, fill it up with the acetone solution and just spray it on buds?
Yes, exactly. The nicam ones are probably a good size. Lacing bud is a difficult because if you spray it on it will only get on the outside surface, maybe soak in a mm or 2. For lacing herbs, make sure they're ground up and put them in a flat pan. Evenly spray them with the jwh solution, then mix up the herbs, then spray again. Repeat a few times, 5 or 6 should be good.

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if i found out someone was spraying weed with jwh I'd get pissed
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if i found out someone was spraying weed with jwh I'd get pissed
Would you buy it knowing it was sprayed with JWH? Herbal blends are getting pretty popular among the high school stoner kids in my town, I figure if they can go to their normal dealer to get the legal stuff or normal weed enhanced with the same chemical they'd be all for it.

I really just want to do this for an experiment anyway, and if it turns out good and gets popular... $$$$

If not though, at least I'll know how to make my own shit so I can get high
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