Uncut Coke?

[ShadyLady]

My friend is getting some coke which he claims is uncut. I think that's BS, coke is generally cut with something, correct? You can tell if it's cut or not by rubbing it on your gums & if they go numb then it's pure, right? I've only done coke once so kinda a noob about it. Thanks.

[wolfmobster]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

My friend is getting some coke which he claims is uncut. I think that's BS, coke is generally cut with something, correct? You can tell if it's cut or not by rubbing it on your gums & if they go numb then it's pure, right? I've only done coke once so kinda a noob about it. Thanks.

Yeah they generally cut it when 1st made to get out the impurities so then it's 100% or damn near, but I doubt it is uncut unless he makes it himself from coca leaf or he gets the shit from out of the fucking country... It is cut by alot of dealers when it hits the street for weight/filler but more than likely yeah that's bullshit.

[Mr.Happy]

Cocaine will numb your gums whether or not it's pure. If it's weak it'll have less of a numbing effect and if it's strong it'll have more of a numbing effect, but you won't be able to tell how strong it is based on that without a lot more experience than you have.

I'd bet my balls your friend's coke is pretty seriously cut, even if it's purer than most coke that's around your area. Coke just doesn't come into the country pure, and it certainly doesn't reach a low-level dealer pure. Even if the dealer genuinely believes it's pure and isn't just bullshitting for a higher price, it's not.

[mksnowboarder]

Cocaine can also be cut with things that have topical anesthetic effects, like benzocaine.

You won't know till you sniff it, and never if you have no basis for comparison. I used to get pure-ish white in the land of Miami.

mike

[adhesive tape]

No coke is pure. I used to get some fish-scaley, straight from the quarter-key chunk type shit and I would wager money that was not ever pure, maybe it was more coke tha not but deffinitely not over say 80%.

[GoodbyeSoberDay]

Taste your coke.

Here's a tip, if it Instantly numbs your mouth. It's cut

Coke numb's alright, but slower then and more intense then the cutts that are added to it.

[GoodbyeSoberDay]

Idunno I have done alot of blow, plus all my friends sold it.

If you do it enough, just take a tiny tiny bit and burn it. The faster it burns with more applied heat the more pure it is or something. A dealer would know.

[Mr.Happy]

Originally Posted by GoodbyeSoberDay

If you do it enough, just take a tiny tiny bit and burn it. The faster it burns with more applied heat the more pure it is or something. A dealer would know.

I find a lot of dealers are actually pretty ignorant when it comes to the drugs they sell.

[Piles of Crack]

Don't pay your friend for any of that coke. Anybody stupid enough to even claim to have "uncut" likely has either average shit or-- worse yet-- below average shit cut with excessive numbing agents to make it look all nice and pretty.

If your friend is calling you from the middle of a coca field in Bolivia, maybe I'll recant my statements. Otherwise he's full of shit.

[InspiredByMe]

Why don't you all get smart and start isolating your coke out from all the impurities then resell it as pure/pure-ish for the good of the drug system?

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by -PoC

Don't pay your friend for any of that coke. Anybody stupid enough to even claim to have "uncut" likely has either average shit or-- worse yet-- below average shit cut with excessive numbing agents to make it look all nice and pretty.

If your friend is calling you from the middle of a coca field in Bolivia, maybe I'll recant my statements. Otherwise he's full of shit.

I'm not paying for it. My friend is getting it & asked if I wanted to do it with him. He's naive. I told him the coke would be cut but he insists it's pure.

[Piles of Crack]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

I'm not paying for it. My friend is getting it & asked if I wanted to do it with him. He's naive. I told him the coke would be cut but he insists it's pure.

Decline the offer; tell him your pregnant or some shit like that. Let me know how much blood comes out of his nose, and how fast his gums go numb once he tests the "pure" product that's probably a pile of benzocaine and baking soda.

[dead]

If I was kind enough to be giving you free coke, and all you did was harp about how cut it was- no matter how true that is- I'd probably box your whore ears.

[Room_101]

Most coke gets stepped on countless times. If you're lucky enough to stumble upon some fishcale, you're looking at 60-70% pure which is pretty good. Most coke will be less pure than that. They cut it with all sorts of stuff including amphetamines, lidocaine, and the immune-system compromising "levamisole"

[Mr.Happy]

In my experience, coke that's sold as particularly good coke (I've never come across somebody claiming to have 'pure' coke) is generally pretty good coke. If it's sold as pure, I'd be more inclined to think it was decent coke than shitty coke because any idiot can tell when they've got bad coke. Unless they've only ever had bad coke... it's particularly funny seeing somebody who's only had bad coke do good product for the first time. If it's offered, by all means take him up on the offer and buy some beers or something for you and him to do alongside it to return the favour (coke + alcohol = cocaethylene, which is better than cocaine).

[Twin Gats]

good luck getting pure cocaine in the states, or anywhere other than the source for that matter. It will never be pure. the cartels that bring it in cut it. the distributors cut it. your friends dealer probably cut it too.

Meth is a different story, its produced here in the good old States, you just have to know where to go.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by dead

If I was kind enough to be giving you free coke, and all you did was harp about how cut it was- no matter how true that is- I'd probably box your whore ears.

I didn't fucking harp. Dude told me he could get pure coke & I politely informed him that coke is almost always cut. He insisted it's uncut, I left it at that, it's his ignorance. And he's not doing me a favor, he offered, I didn't ask for it. I could care less about the coke, pills are more my thing.

[L33tz]

its always stepped on.

[fcknut]

If you actually want to know, there is a book you can find online called "the cocaine handbook" or something similar, which gives explicit instruction on how to test it.

Doesn't bother me though, I get it pure straight from bolivia, for $0.50 / lb

Oh yeah

[Beam_Me_Up_Scotty]

100% pure cocaine absorbs moisture from the atmosphere so it becomes a paste.

Unless you're tooting paste, it's not pure.

[Eridani]

Unless he's getting it direct from a manufacturer in colombia or something it's pretty impossible that it isn't cut.

[adhesive tape]

He probably just wants you to think he's hXc so you'll get wet and he can give you that uncut DIIIICK!!! amirite

[theinvader]

Wouldn't think so. Prescription painkillers = opiates. Cocaine's not an opiate, therefore, it doesn't trigger your opiate receptors.

[General Butt.Naked]

Originally Posted by -PoC

Don't pay your friend for any of that coke. Anybody stupid enough to even claim to have "uncut" likely has either average shit or-- worse yet-- below average shit cut with excessive numbing agents to make it look all nice and pretty.

If your friend is calling you from the middle of a coca field in Bolivia, maybe I'll recant my statements. Otherwise he's full of shit.

This

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

Cocaine will numb your gums whether or not it's pure. If it's weak it'll have less of a numbing effect and if it's strong it'll have more of a numbing effect, but you won't be able to tell how strong it is based on that without a lot more experience than you have.

I'd bet my balls your friend's coke is pretty seriously cut, even if it's purer than most coke that's around your area. Coke just doesn't come into the country pure, and it certainly doesn't reach a low-level dealer pure. Even if the dealer genuinely believes it's pure and isn't just bullshitting for a higher price, it's not.

And this

Originally Posted by InspiredByMe

Why don't you all get smart and start isolating your coke out from all the impurities then resell it as pure/pure-ish for the good of the drug system?

Been considering this.

Honestly, youre not gonna have a fucking clue in any case until you start doing a lot of different kinds of cocaine. I wrote a little cocaine mini-faq a while back, but nobody took much interest in it. Quickly, here are a few things that are indicators of good coke.

Color- opinions vary, but IME, good coke can be anywhere from eggshell white to slightly yellow. The most important indicator is the fabled "fishscale". A chunk should be slightly shiny-like a pearl- under light.

Texture- A lot of people think that if coke is gummy or clumpy, that means it's shitty. Wrong. Coke HCl is hygroscopic- it absorbs water in the air. A lot of times after leaving a line unattended, or leaving an ounce around on a hot day, id find that it had become very clumpy.Thats just the way it is. A lot f people bitch about this, but i actually think its good practice to add a bit of baking soda to a batch, just to keep it from clumping up, and making it easier to chop lines. Also, add silica gel packets to your storage spot. Coke should also be oily. I like to take a little bit in between my fingers, spit on it a bit, and mix it and smush it between my fingers. It should completely mix up, without feeling very sandy or rough. If coke is in a bag, smushing it in the plastic should leave oily residue on the side.

Smell- This fr me is one of the most important indicators, but can only really be learned with experience. The smell of coke is hard to describe, but it is completely unmistakable. Id say it smells like gasoline, superglue...with maybe a hint of pine. If you stick your nose in a bag, good coke should kind of sting the nostrils- give you a little jolt. Thats not to say that I havent had okay coke that didn't smell, but if i came across a batch that someone said was great, but didn't have any smell...id be very suspicious of it.


Like many have said- the likelihood of getting completely pure coke if youre just buying in grams...is about as good as winning the lottery. I always aspired to buying a kilo, but the most i ever ended up getting at once was 10oz. You could tell that it was from a large distributor, but it wasn't really in a "brick" as a lot of people describe it. It was a lot of "chips" -i guess you could call them- of coke, compacted together. Some of the chips were very flat on one side, leading me to believe that they were dried on some sort of surface. Then again, someone could have just pastified it and then re-dried it after having cut it a bit. Still, that would ata least mean that they had a large amount of coke to begin with, making me think that they probably had a line to big amounts of good blow.

The best shit I ever had was from a guy that I met very briefly. He worked days as a driver of a sort of corner-store-truck that sold cigarettes, ice cream, fruit, toys...they drive around the ghetto areas and shit a lot. He said his family was originally from Ecuador and Peru. I bought decent amounts from him twice, and the last time, he drove down and met me in my area, and before I got out of the car, he said to wait, and handed me a little 2 gram bag. He said it was "Dulce Peruviana" (Peruvian sweet), and that If i liked it, to tell him. It was gonna be more expensive, but he said it was good. It was off-white, in one big chunk, sparkly as shit, and actually quite solid. It was still soft, but a lot more solid than a lot of the fishscale ive had. Anyway, I went to my room and got out my little micro-grater, and grated about a third of it into a little pile, then mixed it with a pinch of baking soda to make it manageable. I made a little line that couldnt have been more than .2 in weight, and railed it. I sat for a second and then it hit me. It wasn't like being hit by a train- like a lot of stuff is. It felt like being swept up in some strong rapids. I immediately chopped up a regular sized line and railed that, too. I stretched my arms out and fell back onto my bed, smiling. I Ithink I layed there for an hour saying "Oh man...oh maaaaann...ohhh man..." until it occurred to me to pick up the phone and tell him how much i liked it. He said that he was glad, and said that he'd have that batch for me when i picked up in a week. It was just pure....joy....happiness...i wanted to take a woman and rip her clothes off, wrap her legs around me and fuck the shit out of her (along with little tingling sensations in my dick that felt like i was going to cum spontaneously...lol). I wanted to go swimming. It felt like a full body/consciousness massage...electricity gently tingling through every inch of my body. Anyway, when my supply ran down to the 3/4 of an ounce or so, a couple of weeks later, I called him to tell him id need more. No answer. I left him a numeric page to call me back at the prepaid number I used with him, figuring that he was busy, but that we'd meet the next day anyway like we usually did. The next day came- nothing. Another week came and went- nothing. I called every other day, and on the other numbers he had ever called me on- nothing. The best shit I ever had. That was probably for th ebest though...I had never felt really compelled to do shitloads of coke- never really felt the "addictive" nature of the drug as many people describe it. But with that particular batch, i could really see how that mightve been an issue.

Anyway... yup.

tl;dr- good coke should be shiny, shmelly and... shweaty?

[tariel]

The only reliable way to tell purity would be to purify it yourself and do some calculations.

Take 10 grams (1 gram would work but would be prone to bigger errors), dissolve in distilled water, filter out anything that doesn't dissolve, this is cut. Add ammonia and some di ethyl ether and shake. Seperate ether layer and gas with anhydrous HCL gas, you should get some pretty beautiful snowflakes forming. These will be in the 90+ % purity region. Filter, weigh, dry.

Im assuming you then know how to work out a percentage?

Even good import purity in the Uk runs from 70-low 90's. Someone always stamps on it as it goes through the chain.

Am I the only person thinking, who cares about the quality, it's free?

[General Butt.Naked]

turn it into freebase and then wash it, turn it back into HCl

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

My friend is getting some coke which he claims is uncut. I think that's BS, coke is generally cut with something, correct? You can tell if it's cut or not by rubbing it on your gums & if they go numb then it's pure, right? I've only done coke once so kinda a noob about it. Thanks.

There's no such thing as uncut cocaine in the United States.

[Hydroponichronic]

You know, it is possible to purify coke. It's possible his dealer has half a brain and can read the internet. Shit, a b/a would do it real nice like.

[tariel]

Originally Posted by CASPER

turn it into freebase and then wash it, turn it back into HCl

Look at my post. Atleast I gave a procedure instead of mix A with B and get C. Atleast give him a procedure.

[tariel]

Originally Posted by Hydroponichronic

You know, it is possible to purify coke. It's possible his dealer has half a brain and can read the internet. Shit, a b/a would do it real nice like.

Yeah, but then he wouldn't make as much money. How likely do you think it is you will find a coke dealer who doesn't care about profit?

[Cloaked Dagger]

Originally Posted by tariel

Yeah, but then he wouldn't make as much money. How likely do you think it is you will find a coke dealer who doesn't care about profit?

He would make more money when he was able to charge a higher price due to it's incomparable quality and everyone was willing to pay that price and was coming to him due to it's incomparable quality. If you have the best shit in town everyone will want to buy from you and will be willing to pay a premium for it.

[Mr.Happy]

Originally Posted by Cloaked Dagger

He would make more money when he was able to charge a higher price due to it's incomparable quality and everyone was willing to pay that price and was coming to him due to it's incomparable quality. If you have the best shit in town everyone will want to buy from you and will be willing to pay a premium for it.

If you get coke at 50% purity (which is extremely fortunate and probably expensive to begin with), nobody's going to pay twice the usual gram price even if it is the best product they could hope to get their hands on. And they'd have to pay more than twice the gram price in order for it to actually be worth the effort. Here, that'd be £100/gram, which is just ludicrous even if it is fantastic.

[stupid noob]

I get my cocaine pure, straight from the cartel. My uncles a hit man. Don't you dare say my coke isn't pure, I'll call my uncle on you.

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by Hydroponichronic

You know, it is possible to purify coke. It's possible his dealer has half a brain and can read the internet. Shit, a b/a would do it real nice like.

Fuck AB. CWE cocaine is where it's at. The polar miscibility of cocaine is FUCKING MASSIVE.

[stupid noob]

It isn't hard to clean cocaine PF.

[Mr.Happy]

Maybe where you are, or around different kinds of people to those I know. In my experience, and in the places I've lived, drug prices are pretty stable regardless of quality. MDMA is £40-50 on the gram, quality ranging from grimey, low-grade, barely-MD powder worth half the price to beautiful, near-pure, clean crystalline powder with effects just like you describe. Coke is £40-50 on the gram, ranging from speed-laden, gurny shit to... well, certainly not pure or anything like it, but clean-feeling and deeply pleasant and kind of subtle in a not very subtle way (if you get me). The £50 grams tend to be better quality and are sold as such (only times I've had what I'd consider half-decent coke have been £50, every other time it's been obviously low-grade), but I've never heard of people pushing prices remotely as high as what you're talking about.

That said, I don't really do coke anymore and I'm sure there's a market for it if you know 'cocaine connoisseurs', like you said. But a market that's far different from the one your average dealer serves, and one that I'm pretty far removed from. Maybe I just don't run in the proper circles, but I still find it hard to see people without massive disposable incomes here spending £100 on something that lasts four nights when a gram of good mud will do you 8 nights for half the price. The cocaine market here is also in a big decline, if you believe all the news sites over the last couple of years.

I'm not a US poster, by the way (there's a clue in the unit of currency I'm using). I've always seen massively variable drug prices based on quality as an American phenomenon.

[Retard Synrdome]

[Hydroponichronic]

Originally Posted by tariel

Yeah, but then he wouldn't make as much money. How likely do you think it is you will find a coke dealer who doesn't care about profit?

You might be able to charge more for it. If you did the extraction right, there would only be negligble losses of actual cocaine, then you could sell it as

"jim-the-drug-dealers-honest-to-god-chemically-pure-cocaine"

[adhesive tape]

I once got coke that was orange, like the color of orange juice, I thought it was shit even though it was glintzy as fuck. I did a line a slight bit larger than I usually do but did a bit of heroin and OD'd. My heart was racing and I was light headed and felt like I was going to black out. I could see me heart pumping through my shirt. Don't be fooled by color, bomb ass coke comes in many forms.

Edit: I cooked a little crack from a fat pinch mixed with a tiny pinch in a big spoon. The size of the oil bubbles were unbelievable vs. the amount of weight I put in. That is one of the most reliable ways of determining quality IMo, if you don't have the experience to tell by look/smell/high and want to get an idea of how good your shit is cook a tiny bit of rock and see how much oil rises to the surface.

[tariel]

Sure, someone who is really that botrhered about the purity probably would pay the extra for the quality. Are these people in the majority? No. You're average recreational user probably won't care as long as it gets them where they want to be. Also, if they are used to 20-25%, they will be happy with 20-25%.

In the UK dealers actually intentionally lowered the purity of some cocaine as well as the price to appeal to a younger market. They created a two tier system with cheaper lower quality coke to appeal to teenagers with pocket money.