Meat Alternatives

Ambient · #1 02-26-2009, 11:23 AM

So i got the vegeterian thing down; im not really eating vegetables exept for onions and potatoes.

So what are some good meat alternatives; i know theres alot of shit out their like that soy "meat".

All i know thats good is falafal (sp),

ComradeAsh · #2 02-26-2009, 11:29 AM

Bacon.

1983 · #3 02-26-2009, 11:30 AM

Depends what type of vegetarian you are.

I used to be Lacto Ovo (sp?)
Lactose and Egg products in case you were wondering.

Sprouts work, So does whey and bean protein.

Just make sure you keep everything balanced and talk to a dietitian.

Other than that I was a veggie due to wanting to eat healthier... I would still be but due to financial reason it's not possible at this moment of time.

Al

Ambient · #4 02-26-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frackle

Depends what type of vegetarian you are.

I used to be Lacto Ovo (sp?)
Lactose and Egg products in case you were wondering.

Sprouts work, So does whey and bean protein.

Just make sure you keep everything balanced and talk to a dietitian.

Other than that I was a veggie due to wanting to eat healthier... I would still be but due to financial reason it's not possible at this moment of time.

Al

Haha dude are you joking?

Meat is naturally and economically less efficient and more costly.

The only way it might be cheaper is if there is something in your diet lacking which costs more than meat and occurs on a high enough frequency to be of significance (three small portions a day is the reccomendation).

I fail to see how the vegeterian diet is more expensive; unless perhaps you dont cook which means it will be expensive because it is an indistry dominated by meat.

I eat diary and eggs just not meat.

Fuck this balanced diet shit.

Ive lost 5 kg in one week and i wasnt even trying; just from taking meat out of my diet; probably less exercise.

I didnt give a fuck about a balanced diet before; most other people dont give a fuck about their diet now especially the meat-munchers who love to criticise vegeterians vitamin de-ficiancy whilst they shove their face with burger king.

Fuck off.

1983 · #5 02-26-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Haha dude are you joking?

Meat is naturally and economically less efficient and more costly.

The only way it might be cheaper is if there is something in your diet lacking which costs more than meat and occurs on a high enough frequency to be of significance (three small portions a day is the reccomendation).

I fail to see how the vegeterian diet is more expensive; unless perhaps you dont cook which means it will be expensive because it is an indistry dominated by meat.

I eat diary and eggs just not meat.

Fuck this balanced diet shit.

Ive lost 5 kg in one week and i wasnt even trying; just from taking meat out of my diet; probably less exercise.

I didnt give a fuck about a balanced diet before; most other people dont give a fuck about their diet now especially the meat-munchers who love to criticise vegeterians vitamin de-ficiancy whilst they shove their face with burger king.

Fuck off.

Well dip shit the reason why I said a balanced diet is because I used to lift weights as well so I had to watch my intake to balance out what would be best for me.

Second of all I got a half cow off my family farm for free and it's sitting in the freezer... Right now I'm below the poverty line and don't even have reliable transportation so I eat what I can which seems to be a rice and beef gruel for the most part.

My vegetables come from a garden for the most part as well and when I am able to get into town I buy frozen and they sit in my freezer right next to the beef.

Also I was trying to give you advice you fucking mental case and you launched into a vegginazzi speech on how meat is bad ect ect without knowing anything about what my situation may or may not be... and that's why idiot vegetarians like you are constantly made fun of and should be shot like the rabid sacks of shit you are.

Anyways judging by your reaction and instant "Rawr meat is bad" speal I'm gunna have to say your about as bright as a box of crushed light bulbs.

You are defiantly one of those kids the doctor didn't slap on the ass but off the wall... a little to hard too by the looks of it.

And I'm sure what I just wrote will kick around the idiots nest inside your head and a swarm of dumb ass will come from you next.

Either way :fuk2:

Al

Also:

recommendation not reccomendation
vegetarian not vegeterian
don't not dont
industry not indistry
wasn't not wasnt
didn't not didnt
criticize not criticise
deficiency de-ficiancy

I never criticized you because you were a veggie... however I am criticizing you cause due to your acute mental retardation.

ComradeAsh · #6 02-26-2009, 11:34 PM

^ ^ ^

Fuckin' A.

xxombie · #7 02-26-2009, 11:37 PM

You need a fucking balanced diet. Especially when you're a vegetarian. Or one day, you will be showering, and you will pass out from an iron deficiancy, and you will smack your head and die.

Ambient · #8 02-26-2009, 11:47 PM

Well FYI the post wasnt directed so much towards you as it was to the community and the "certain types of people" within society i.e. the ones eating burger king telling me my diet is unhealthy.

I wouldnt make that attack on you or any one individual without just cause and i dont usually bitch about these things; but their is a time and a place and that probably wasnt it.

The only statement that was directed towards you was that i struggle to see how meat can be more efficient or less costly naturally and economically. I think this generalisations still stands true despite possible exeptions i.e. Gifts such as the half cow you recieved.

In saying that somebody could give you 100kg of falafel and it would change how naturally or economically viable it is.

Also you accuse me of being a veggienazi; then go on to start on your spellingnazi spree.

Im aware linguistics are different to diet; but there are variations between linguistics and diet aswell and the english language varies in different time periods and contexts i.e. 2009 on the internet.

If we didnt allow this language would not evolve.

I only care about spelling to make sure i am understood.

The fact you were able to identify the words i was trying to say; despite their error is proof you understood despite the mistake.

So if you are offended by what i said i am sorry; it was not intended for you; i have stated the segment that was intended for you.

Ambient · #9 02-26-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xxombie

You need a fucking balanced diet. Especially when you're a vegetarian. Or one day, you will be showering, and you will pass out from an iron deficiancy, and you will smack your head and die.

Saying it one thing; doing it is another.

Besides i take two iron pills a day; and have been for the past 10 years so i think i got that covered.

**Euda** · #10 02-27-2009, 12:23 AM

Fake bacon's pretty good.

xxombie · #11 02-27-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Euda

Fake bacon's pretty good.

Yeah, a lot of fake meat is pretty good. Fake chicken nuggets, fake ground beef. So Soya beef alternative is very very good in chilli.

Cliche Guevara · #12 02-27-2009, 12:32 AM

haha i used to be lacto ovo for a few months on a bet. I lived off hummus and these really cheap soy based hotdogs (with enough ketchup you cant really tell).

Vizier · #13 02-27-2009, 01:52 AM

I see the people in the future consuming more and more insects. They have more protein than meat in ratio, are very, very easy to raise, multiply fast, and don't even taste bad.

Vegeterians who become such for the sole reason of not harming animals is kinda akward from my point of view. We are on a good top spot in the food chain, and that's the way nature works. We eat each other to survive.

The few vegetarian people I know look weak, fraily and sometimes pale. Hell, I'm already skinny enough to bitch about what I eat and what I don't.

Omnivores ftw.

1983 · #14 02-27-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVizier

I see the people in the future consuming more and more insects. They have more protein than meat in ratio, are very, very easy to raise, multiply fast, and don't even taste bad.

Vegeterians who become such for the sole reason of not harming animals is kinda akward from my point of view. We are on a good top spot in the food chain, and that's the way nature works. We eat each other to survive.

The few vegetarian people I know look weak, fraily and sometimes pale. Hell, I'm already skinny enough to bitch about what I eat and what I don't.

Omnivores ftw.

It's because most vegetarians don't know their ass from a hole in the wall and think they look and feel good cause all they eat is steamed celery.

Basically they do it for whatever reason they justify it by and not put any research into it... Eating vegetables good, Eating meat bad..... that's about it for allot of them.

I did it because I found I didn't have enough energy living just off carbs so I supplemented my diet and tried it out and I liked the results.. I actually did my research and I felt better for it even though it could be a pain in my ass some days.

As for bugs and alternative food sources I'd actually like to try my pallet on a bug or two just to see what it tastes like other than lobsters. (Lobsters are bugs)

And I'm all for low cost high output healthy foods... When I can find them and afford them... But allot of it isn't readily available in the westernized market unfortunately.

Anyways good post.

Al

Vizier · #15 02-27-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frackle

As for bugs and alternative food sources I'd actually like to try my pallet on a bug or two just to see what it tastes like other than lobsters. (Lobsters are bugs)

Anyways good post.

Al

Thanks.

Lobsters aren't bugs though. They are crustaceans; the only thing they have in common with 'bugs' is that they are arthropods too. Lobster meat is so fucking delicious.

I tried grasshoppers once. Like, a real dish with grasshoppers. Tasted dry, but with a little bit of sauce they had this chip, salty taste to them. You should give them a try.

1983 · #16 02-27-2009, 02:15 AM

Will most certainly do.

And for the longest of times I thought Lobster was a form of insect.... Learn something new every day.

Also is there any suggested way of cooking the grasshoppers... I've looked into it but not very deeply.. I know you gotta take off the legs and some people also cut off the heads.

Al

Ambient · #17 02-27-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frackle

It's because most vegetarians don't know their ass from a hole in the wall and think they look and feel good cause all they eat is steamed celery.

Basically they do it for whatever reason they justify it by and not put any research into it... Eating vegetables good, Eating meat bad..... that's about it for allot of them.

I did it because I found I didn't have enough energy living just off carbs so I supplemented my diet and tried it out and I liked the results.. I actually did my research and I felt better for it even though it could be a pain in my ass some days.

As for bugs and alternative food sources I'd actually like to try my pallet on a bug or two just to see what it tastes like other than lobsters. (Lobsters are bugs)

And I'm all for low cost high output healthy foods... When I can find them and afford them... But allot of it isn't readily available in the westernized market unfortunately.

Anyways good post.

Al

Come on dude; meat eating is the bigger trend and vegeterian the smaller trend.

Meat eaters are the ones who eat theier diet without question not vegeterians just ask them why "cus it like... tastes good dude".

That is what the animal would tell you if it could speak

Raptor Ribs · #18 02-27-2009, 02:32 AM

A vegetarians immune system kills millions of living organisms every day. Hypocrites.

1983 · #19 02-27-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Come on dude; meat eating is the bigger trend and vegeterian the smaller trend.

Meat eaters are the ones who eat theier diet without question not vegeterians just ask them why "cus it like... tastes good dude".

That is what the animal would tell you if it could speak

I didn't Know it was a trend... Like wow really... So if I stared wearing meat that would be a trend too right.

A trend is something people do to make themselves stand out.

Frankly if I go to the local A&W and order a burger no one will look at me twice... a salad however and someone may question my sexuality.

Either way it's convenient for the public to eat meat.

Either way I don't care.

Veganism, vegetarianism, Other things that are considered on the "fringe" of life or represent only a low percentage would be considered more of a trend than anything because for the most part these people try to stand out if only a little.

When I was a veggie it wasn't because of any other reason but me wanting to eat healthier... No hidden motives, no political agendas, nothing but me wanting to have more food energy than what I previously ate provided me with.

Everyone eats... it's a personal choice what you eat plain and simple as that.
Some people may go on "food trends" but it's just people calling it something to look cool or to use it for their beliefs or agendas.

As for what's questioned what goes in my diet as a meat eater.... For fuck sakes I lived and worked on a farm most of my life.
We used to feed out animals organic food stuffs.. On the most part it was un-medicated corn mash and other than that scratch for our chickens.

We also let our chickens free range in the garden and the likes so they'd take care of the bugs so we didn't have to use pesticides.

As for knowing what goes in to commercially processed meat... believe me I know more than many and some things I don't want to know but it comes with growing up on a farm.

Why do you think we raised our food?
So we didn't have to eat hormone injected cattle, so there was no mutagens in our food and for an all around healthier life style.

Even when are animals were sick unless it was serious we'd use home and herbal remedies for them that have been around for hundreds of years.

You'd be surprised at how many books we have on farm life and natural cures for both us and our animals.

Either way allot of people asked my why I didn't eat meat back then... every time my answer was "I think this is healthier for me".

If they wanted to label me a veggie that was there provocative... I know I was but I didn't feel it was necessary to give one generalization to it at that time nor do I still believe that... when I do use it though it's so people have an easier understanding and I don't have to go on a long winded explanation of my life at the time.

Either way you should of learned that I'm neither a novice or ignorant of this topic and every time you quote me I quote you back in some intellectual form.

It's my personal view point from both experience and variously gained knowledge about what my reply is based on.

I've lived a very different life and an educated one in food, naturalism, and older and healthier way of life.

So before you sprout more verbal diarrhea rub a couple brain cells together and actually get a fucking education on a topic before you start in on it hell bent that you're right about something.

You never have an open mind you never learn.

Al

Ambient · #20 02-27-2009, 12:48 PM

^^

Its prerogative not provocative.

What i say is my prerogative;

but what you dont understand is its my prerogative to express ny prerogative on how others should live; that is part and parcel of prerogative and that is the key issue; you talk of side issues.

Doesnt mean you have to listen to my prerogative;

its a big fat happy relatavist family.

jimany · #21 02-27-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

I didnt give a fuck about a balanced diet before; most other people dont give a fuck about their diet now especially the meat-munchers who love to criticise vegeterians vitamin de-ficiancy whilst they shove their face with burger king.

Either you really fucked up your op, or you would be much better off at burgerking...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

So i got the vegeterian thing down; im not really eating vegetables exept for onions and potatoes.

Why the fuck would you become vegetarian if you don't eat fucking veggies...? 'I heard vegetarianism is health, but I only like french fries and onion rings...? I know, I'll sustain myself entirely on onions and potatoes

'

I really hope you're trolling, but I have met stupider people before...

Ambient · #22 02-28-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimany

Either you really fucked up your op, or you would be much better off at burgerking...

Why the fuck would you become vegetarian if you don't eat fucking veggies...? 'I heard vegetarianism is health, but I only like french fries and onion rings...? I know, I'll sustain myself entirely on onions and potatoes

'

I really hope you're trolling, but I have met stupider people before...

Im a student; i just moved out 2 weeks ago and so ive only done one round of 50$ shopping; i dont have much money so its bulk items im living off that i racked off my parents mostly staples

i.e. rice, spices, vinegars, olive oil; lentils. I have some onions and potatoes but only got some mixed vegetables recently. Ive never really been very dietary concious but i ate a reasonably "healthy" diet.

So i dont have anything against vegetables; i just dont have variety of any kind in my diet right now because i have to live within my means. I eat what i cook; and i cook what ive got. Its that simple.

I dont have a job yet and im living off 90$ a month; 60 for shopping 30$ for weed.

I dont plan on getting a job at this point in time.