Freedom of speech=/=making fun of someones dead child non stop

[constantinople]

If you need to divulge the obscenity in your heart, get on XBL and play social slayer.

[Unwyred]

Sometimes I wish we could all just set aside our differences and make fun of the rest of the world like we used to...

This inner-community pissing contest where we all try to pick eachother apart for either our personal views, preferences, or lifestyles, or things that have happened to us that we can't control is absolute bullshit.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Unwyred

Sometimes I wish we could all just set aside our differences and make fun of the rest of the world like we used to...

This inner-community pissing contest where we all try to pick eachother apart for either our personal views, preferences, or lifestyles, or things that have happened to us that we can't control is absolute bullshit.

So I'm coming to realize.

[Vizier]

Unwyred has a point. We used to make fun of shit like juggalos or emos or christians as a whole. Whatever happened to those days?

[constantinople]

We got evicted and re-located to the slums like dirty Mexicans.

[Unwyred]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Unwyred has a point. We used to make fun of shit like juggalos or emos or christians as a whole. Whatever happened to those days?

Regulars became too concerned about the administration.

Site Policy is and always has been different on Zoklet than it was on Totse and many of the users could not grasp the concept that this site was never meant to replace Totse. It's a privately owned message board started by a college student in Ohio. His site, his rules.

Users didn't like the stricter rules on off-topic posting and the intolerance of trolling, multiple accounts, etc., so they began to lash out at the administration. This is turn caused members of moderation and the administration to become defensive in enforcing the site's rules and thus began the downward spiral of dissent.

Now all it has come to be is a "them and us" type of stance where most of the regulars distrust the administration and vice-versa.

It's fucking retarded and it's easy to stop the cycle, but no one has the honour to set aside their pride and say, "I'm done, let's talk to eachother and enjoy what we all have to say."

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Unwyred

Regulars became too concerned about the administration.

Site Policy is and always has been different on Zoklet than it was on Totse and many of the users could not grasp the concept that this site was never meant to replace Totse. It's a privately owned message board started by a college student in Ohio. His site, his rules.

Users didn't like the stricter rules on off-topic posting and the intolerance of trolling, multiple accounts, etc., so they began to lash out at the administration. This is turn caused members of moderation and the administration to become defensive in enforcing the site's rules and thus began the downward spiral of dissent.

Now all it has come to be is a "them and us" type of stance where most of the regulars distrust the administration and vice-versa.

It's fucking retarded and it's easy to stop the cycle, but no one has the honour to set aside their pride and say, "I'm done, let's talk to eachother and enjoy what we all have to say."

YOU AREN'T FUCKING SAYING IT RIGHT!

[Vizier]

Let's all be friends and troll Bill Keller or something.

[Unwyred]

Originally Posted by TrustedDr.Watson

YOU AREN'T FUCKING SAYING IT RIGHT!

My point exactly.

[Vizier]

Oh shit, I've given 666 thanks 4 lyfe and received L33t thanks

EDIT: Thanks Habanero

[Midnight Sun]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Oh shit, I've given 666 thanks 4 lyfe and received L33t thanks

EDIT: Thanks Habanero

lol, shit, I didn't even notice

[-SpectraL]

Ya. I wish we could all make the world go away by pushing a few buttons. Some people are just really special, I guess.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by Unwyred

...It's fucking retarded and it's easy to stop the cycle, but no one has the honour to set aside their pride and say, "I'm done, let's talk to eachother and enjoy what we all have to say."

That's not a one-way street, it's a two-way street.

[Twin Gats]

lol i thought that was a joke
the fact that it is actually true makes it that more hilarious

[constantinople]

What is this thing above me that calls itself a poster? Who is he, and why is he at the grown ups table?

[Unwyred]

Originally Posted by -SpectraL

That's not a one-way street, it's a two-way street.

That's why I said no one.

[constantinople]

Just don't expect me to be the bigger person first.

[Twin Gats]

Originally Posted by TrustedDr.Watson

What is this thing above me that calls itself a poster? Who is he, and why is he at the grown ups table?

LOL at labeling a thread on zoklet as "the grown ups table". You are truly pathetic. If you ever get a girl pregnant i hope the baby dies. I hope and hope with all of my heart.

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by Marijuanasaurus

Dude. Shut up.

Its not something Spectral pulled out of his ass, and the fact that you attributed that specifically to him shows that you have some kind of stick up your cooter over that guy.

Its something a LOT of people suspected. Spectral wasnt the ring leader in that conspiracy you twat.

I'm not really sure it matters whether you thought up the Omg conspiracee!! crap on your own or were just going along with the retard crowd trying to get your digs in. Either way, you're still retarded.

[Marijuanasaurus]

Originally Posted by Shrike

I'm not really sure it matters whether you thought up the Omg conspiracee!! crap on your own or were just going along with the retard crowd trying to get your digs in. Either way, you're still retarded.

*sigh*

another misguided soul who conforms so easily to authority and is afraid to think outside the box.

this makes me really sad. really it does.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Shrike

I'm not really sure it matters whether you thought up the Omg conspiracee!! crap on your own or were just going along with the retard crowd trying to get your digs in. Either way, you're still retarded.

What conspiracy? Zok or wires deleted the shit. It's fact. Wether they did it on purpose or on accident really doesn't make a difference once the milk is spilled.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by Unwyred

That's why I said no one.

Well, there's one thing we'll never get past.. at least as far as I'm concerned, and that's zok's abuse of authority in my case. I managed all four of "my" forums almost to perfection, and simply because he didn't like what I had to say... didn't like my opinion... he started pressing buttons on my profile illegitimately and without cause. That's not something you can just let go. I earned my rank within community the hard way, was highly recommended by both jackketch and trueborn vorpal, and he had no right at all to try and take away my voice by exploiting my community status. The bitching forum is mine, and that's the way the former mod of this forum wanted it... he had no right to interfere. Until you people fix the issues you created, get rid of the continued undermining and community abuse, I'm not going to be happy with any of your "solutions".

[constantinople]

They should make DaGuru mod of PEOO for a week. Just to see...

[DECI4]

I hope Daguru dies, but I would love it if they made him a mod. How fun would that be?

[Former_Member]

It is entirely fucked.

The death of an (even unborn) child is really no laughing matter. It's really the worst of humanity coming out to try and make it one.

[T.K. Baha]

Its only funny because she gets mad about it. Its the internet for christ sake, if you can't take an insult from a faceless wall of text you need thicker skin.

[Mashleshmash]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

It is entirely fucked.

The death of an (even unborn) child is really no laughing matter. It's really the worst of humanity coming out to try and make it one.

You can expect to find the worst of humanity smack dab right here.

[zombo.com]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Of course not, but I wouldn't post it on the internet either and act like an uptight bitch to everyone and expect compassion. Expecting mercy from the internet is like expecting a child will not get raped when climbing into a shady van scribbled with "free candy" on it.

nice deflection there, except it's not "the internet", it's you. and every other individual, making a choice to act like worthless pieces of shit to another human being, while hiding behind "it's the internet"

Originally Posted by Marijuanasaurus

And I thank you for being reasonable.

See, what Ive done here is a demonstration of freedom of speech. I have nothing personal against wires, and Ive even forgiven her for infracting me 3 times and permabanning me. But if I want to call out obscenities to a random user or mod, then I should be able to do so, in the appropriate forum, and as long as its not revealing any personal info. Notice Im not making tasteless jokes about her dead fetus. I personally dont like to stoop that low, but if someone feels the need to purge their soul of such vulgarities, then they should be able to do so.

Obviously thats not the case in IRC, but thats a whole different thread.

Mebbe if they're the type of person that cannot live without purging themselves, we, as a community, should purge ourselves of them. They wouldn't spit on us if we were on fire, therefor we as a community owe them nothing.

Originally Posted by SAS

Its only funny because she gets mad about it. Its the internet for christ sake, if you can't take an insult from a faceless wall of text you need thicker skin.

another sterling example of humanity right here.

Originally Posted by Mashleshmash

You can expect to find the worst of humanity smack dab right here.

amen mashle.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by SAS

Its only funny because she gets mad about it. Its the internet for christ sake, if you can't take an insult from a faceless wall of text you need thicker skin.

but some things....some things. You don't cannabalize your own man.

[T.K. Baha]

Shut up shit head.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by SAS

Shut up shit head.

Lick my sweaty hairy asshole for a couple hours.

[i poop in your cereal]

I don't see what all of you've got against wires. She's a pretty cool and helpful person for the most part. She may be a little on the unstable side, but that's not exactly a rarity around here.

[DaGuru]

Wow there is a whole helluva lot of bullshit and lies in this thread. Let's clarify a few things, so those desperately sucking up to Wires here can quit spewing some of that bullshit once and for all.....

-First, it is ALLEGED pregnancy. I still maintain she was never preggo in the first place...and has been using all of this for attention the whole time. Broads do this ALL the time, and someone as selfish and emotionally unstable as Wires fits the profile PERFECTLY. For the sake of argument on the rest of this thread though, I'll play along and still refer to baby/fetus just to humor everyone.

-NOBODY on here "hates Wires because of the miscarriage". No, instead they use the miscarriage as a way to lash out at her. The REAL REASON they hate her is because she is a boorish cunt that does very little positive for this place, and this whole website gets turned upside down all on her account. All the "baby" shtick is, is an easy and unoriginal way to get to her...nothing more.

Again, if people didn't make the fuss they did, you'd never hear the baby digs. NEVER. And I myself am a perfect example of that.....because as I've discussed many times before I had a LEGITIMATE baby of mine die at 4 months old from SIDS. As much as I'm hated and ignored by many people in this community, they never use my kid dying as "ammo" to try to flame me. The ONLY time anyone brings it up is when I do, and that is only to make these points about Wires being such a worthless cunt. NONE of this would be happening at all, if Wires herself and some of her friends didn't make such a big stink about it. The fact I'm so disliked around here too, AND nobody ever brings up my dead kid is ABSOLUTE PROOF OF THAT FACT.

-MUCH of people's attitude about Wires isn't so much about what SHE does, but instead how much of a fuss is made on her account. She is a lukewarm poster at best, and a lazy, biased staff member to boot. But SO MUCH is sacrificed because of her, and people literally FALL ALL OVER THEMSELVES all on her account....for what exactly? Zok was willing to throw the rest of the staff under the bus all to stick up for her....remember the oldie but goodie...."Wires does MORE than any other mod around here". Again, those kind of comments (and especially actions that follow or are part of those comments) are what builds up resentment and hate.

You think that is out-dated though, and people are beating a dead horse? Meh, stupid comments are STILL being made....as one only has to witness a recent "defense" by another handler of hers having to protect her.

Originally Posted by Euda

I try to say, "No, Vizier's basically a decent guy", then he cuts my legs out from under me. Every single God damn time.

Happy Birthday, wires. Try not to let people that look to ruin a girl's birthday get you down. I can't even imagine where that kind of rudeness comes from. It's just shit. Maybe when they get older they'll smack their kids around for a sweet birthday present. Maybe kick their mother in the face for Mother's Day. Maybe they'll even call their grandma up and tell her they that they wish she was dead. Hell, maybe they do now.

Just listen to all of the overly dramatic and ridiculous verbiage attached to simple flames on a message board. Really? Someone doesn't like this do-nothing attention whore, and it is akin to "wishing their own grandma dead"????? Gimme. A. Fuckin. Break.

Many of you are right, Wires doesn't have to "do" a damn thing any more....because she already has a small posse willing to "do" enough stupidity on their own accord in her name, not to mention trample their own sense of integrity or sincerity because of her.

-If she was pregnant to begin with, shouldn't we all be thankful it never went to term.....if you look at the bigger picture. Wires has been proven to be a selfish, unstable, and fragile little bitch. Traits that are NOT mommy material. She is the kind of whore you read about that leaves her kid on the steps of a church or in a dumpster because she can't handle it. Or the kind of oblivious cunt that "forgot" the kid was in the backseat while she was running errands. And god forbid that kid should have ever gotten bigger.....the power/control issues she has with IRC and Zoklet mod perks, can you imagine her having such supreme reign over another sentient being 24/7? Scary thought ain't it, and perhaps we should all be counting our blessings about how her personal life ended up.

-Deep down she LOVES every single piece of text talking about her. Its obvious. Because why does she stay? Her haters FAR outnumber her friends. She never was THAT active a poster to begin with, and her posts get fewer and farrer between as time goes on. She stays in IRC for the attention, and "uses" her latest attacks to get people to do her bidding. Make a fuss. Lock or delete threads. Start originating whiney "be nice to Wires" threads. ALL this bullshit, and what is she really "getting" out of this place....if supposedly she is being "hurt" by so many people with such frequency.

Face it.....she loves this shit, and her unstable pscyhe NEEDS this shit. Nobody else would have stayed on this long, and she very much does enjoy the power-tripping that goes hand in hand with the supposed "pain"(ELL OH FUCKIN ELL) that she endured. She insists in staying, she insists on having a mod position, she insists on CONSTANTLY creating all of this drama, and she insists on being such a cowardly littel bitch, and she insists on maintaining this "power" in a place that is far outnumbered by her detractors then she has supporters. ALL OF THAT are the real "reasons" why people hate her...and again if there was ANYTHING positive most of the community could be getting from her presence, there wouldn't be such a massive hate train trying to forever detroy her.

Instead she is just an attention needy demented broad, whose status has been forcefed on the community.....and who will continue to generate drama, disgust, and people leaving out of frustration.....all so a few handful of losers can suck up to some silly cunt that possesses a vagina and gives them the time of day, while the rest of us just scoff at how much of a worthless piece of gutter trash she truly is.

[Marijuanasaurus]

Dont you hate it when youre drinking, and you get overconfident with tipping the cup towards your mouth and spill water all over yourself?

[Snoopy]

During the time I was making rather crude jokes about wires' alleged dead fetus my wife was pregnant with twins. If you didn't know already, twin pregnancies are always more complex and the chance of something going wrong or a miscarriage occurring are a lot bigger than in a normal pregnancy. Often people would come to me ask how I can be so damn cold when the same fate could occur to me. Well, I guess I can.

I don't know wires. I know a lot of totse members but I don't know who the fuck wires is. Whenever I used to join #totse, wires would give me voice and greet me in private. Wires would talk to me about her personal life, she told me her name and stuff like that. I figured she knew me from "old" totse to talk to me so openly, because I don't remember ever talking to her. But I also kept in mind that wires could have been just another troll trying to get some snoopy juice. I found our conversations rather boring and uninspiring. She had more or less cliché girly issues that she talked to me about and I tried to act interested for a while.

I don't know how it started exactly, but one day I decided it would be a good idea to rip on her. She must've done something silly like lash out at a member I liked or closed/edited some good post or something. I don't remember. People were ripping on her miscarriage for months so I didn't make much of it. I made some simple, non vulgar remark about it. A few hours later Zok was contacting me about why I was being a dick. This pretty much had "TROLL BAIT" written all over it in my eyes.

I don't know if wires' miscarriage is real or if she really was pregnant or not. I don't even know if wires is even a female. I don't care. If she is indeed a female, and if she indeed was pregnant, and if she indeed had a miscarriage, then in her piss poor mental state; telling totse/zoklet about it openly was a very bad and untactful idea of hers. I truly don't give a fuck if my and other peoples' words are hurtful to her. In fact, the more it hurts her the harder I will rip on her. She's a weak little shit and I will stop when she is hanging from a ceiling fan. Fuck wires and all her fans. She's an awful cunt, with a pissy personality, who is uncreative, shallow and has banal issues. The epitome of being butthurt.

People bash on her miscarriage because it is fun as fuck. And secretly, she loves being the victim. In fact, all the dead fetus bashing is what greatly contributed to her becoming an administrator here, so don't say it was entirely without purpose. The best part about bashing her, is seeing all her fans getting MAD over it. You guys are so gay and so sensitive.

[DaGuru]

Its a pretty damn strong testament to how truthful something is....if you can find Snoopy and I having the same take about anything. We have very little common ground and hardly agree on any topic at all....yet we can both see the obvious.

Now go ahead all of your Wires Supporters....fire up some more boo-hooing posts defending all of her insecurity and stupidity, and I'm sure someone not already taking a side in all of this will buy all the bullshit empty rhetoric that the stooges are so eagerly willing to throw around, all in the feeble attempts of painting her as some poor haples victim.


Pfffttt.....


Victim Shmictim....the only "victim" in any of this is the Common Sense and Reason that has been completely trampled on all in her worthless name.

[-SpectraL]

We should form an Alliance and force the changes we want to see whether these chronic failures want it or not. No doubt they'll ban us all and end up with an empty forum full of ass-kissers and yes-men, but ain't it better to go down in flames than go down like beaten pussies?

[iMagiNation]

We should form an Alliance

As if the council of Seven wasn't enough?

FUCK

One does not simply Spectroll their way into Mordor!

[T.K. Baha]

Yeah! We could go on strike.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Man, you people are stupid. If you can't handle insults, then don't show up to a website that's basically a free-for-all.

Freedom of speech means freedom of speech. That doesn't mean that said speech is always a good thing. If you can't handle it, then go somewhere else.

I don't give a fuck about wires, and I don't expect her to give a fuck about me. I could make fun of her and her stupid little half-formed fetus until the end of time. Likewise, she could say whatever she wants about me. If she or other people don't like that, then they don't belong her. Period. And nobody is a victim. As long as you're on the internet and you have sound mind, you're all equally guilty and worthless.