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03-02-2009, 11:03 PM
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Evolution
What do i say to someone who refuses to believe in evolution and natural selection? It's so fucking annoying.
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03-02-2009, 11:04 PM
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Re: Evolution
"Quit pressing A+B at the same time!"
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03-02-2009, 11:05 PM
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Re: Evolution
Who is this person?
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03-02-2009, 11:07 PM
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Re: Evolution
tell them they are a fucking idiot, then proceed to show the facts.
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03-02-2009, 11:08 PM
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tryna get the pipe?
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Re: Evolution
What do you tell them when they try to push their view points you? You're just as annoying as them. How about you stop giving a fuck about what other people think and worry about yourself. If they're not interested then lay the fuck off and stop being an annoying little bitch.
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03-02-2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: Evolution
[youtube]R370YkYhV0w[/youtube]
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03-02-2009, 11:19 PM
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Re: Evolution
Haha. I tired logic. I dont know why i care... she's my ex-gf. I just cant tolerate creationism.
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03-02-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: Evolution
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I just cant tolerate creationism.
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And that makes you a terrible person.
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03-02-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: Evolution
Niggers may have come from monkeys, but I sure as hell didn't.
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03-02-2009, 11:23 PM
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Re: Evolution
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And that makes you a terrible person. 
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Srsly?
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03-02-2009, 11:26 PM
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no lol
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03-02-2009, 11:26 PM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by Yodabutter
Niggers may have come from monkeys, but I sure as hell didn't.
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it has been determined that the first human came from africa, the nigger is in your blood, and before that was the monkey, so deal with it
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03-02-2009, 11:27 PM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by xxdeetsxx
I just cant tolerate creationism.
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Outside of the Muslim community, do these people really exist in Britain?
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03-02-2009, 11:30 PM
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Re: Evolution
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it has been determined that the first human came from africa, the nigger is in your blood, and before that was the monkey, so deal with it 
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That suggests black people are Less developed than white people. But we all know there's no difference in intelligence, black people have superior physical strength (how much of that is down to slave breeding i don't know). The reason Africa is less developed is bacause it's more prone to natural disaster.
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03-02-2009, 11:31 PM
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Re: Evolution
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Outside of the Muslim community, do these people really exist in Britain? 
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Yes... i live with a mormon (true story).
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03-02-2009, 11:49 PM
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Re: Evolution
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That suggests black people are Less developed than white people. But we all know there's no difference in intelligence, black people have superior physical strength (how much of that is down to slave breeding i don't know). The reason Africa is less developed is bacause it's more prone to natural disaster.
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thats doesnt suggest that, if anything it suggest the opposite.
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03-02-2009, 11:52 PM
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Re: Evolution
Ask them why they think we have a tailbone, it serves no purpose and was left behind by our new evolved state.
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03-02-2009, 11:58 PM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by The Creator of Life
Ask them why they think we have a tailbone, it serves no purpose and was left behind by our new evolved state.
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It serves no disadvantage either, thus it would not be removed from the genepool through natural selection. Basically, the chances of losing our tailbones due to random genetic mutations are neutral.
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03-02-2009, 11:59 PM
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Re: Evolution
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It serves no disadvantage either, thus it would not be removed from the genepool through natural selection. Basically, the chances of losing our tailbones due to random genetic mutations are neutral.
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You mean nominal?
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03-03-2009, 12:03 AM
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Re: Evolution
[youtube]FS69fuCOhTM[/youtube]
I love that vid.
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03-03-2009, 12:04 AM
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Re: Evolution
Go watch the movie Religulous by Bill Maher. He makes quite a few good points in it even though he's an asshole about it lol. It's a hilarious documentary if you haven't seen it already.
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03-03-2009, 12:20 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by xxdeetsxx
What do i say to someone who refuses to believe in evolution and natural selection? It's so fucking annoying.
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Can't help you, they're so fucked up I wouldn't know where to start...
So, you don't say anything, you take away their right to medical assistance, and all the other conveniences science has provided us with, as they are in effect disregarding the validity of the discoveries, and send them all to live on a deserted island where I'm sure their "god" will help them if the shit hits the fan...
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03-03-2009, 12:30 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Can't help you, they're so fucked up I wouldn't know where to start...
So, you don't say anything, you take away their right to medical assistance, and all the other conveniences science has provided us with, as they are in effect disregarding the validity of the discoveries, and send them all to live on a deserted island where I'm sure their "god" will help them if the shit hits the fan...
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03-03-2009, 12:34 AM
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03-03-2009, 12:35 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by Slave of the Beast
Who is this person?
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You don't know who Mr. Evolution is?
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I love that vid.
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[youtube]733O0xJDx8o[/youtube]
even better
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03-03-2009, 12:39 AM
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Re: Evolution
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It serves no disadvantage either, thus it would not be removed from the genepool through natural selection. Basically, the chances of losing our tailbones due to random genetic mutations are neutral.
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But it is still vestigial and primates still have tails
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03-03-2009, 12:41 AM
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Re: Evolution
I just remember that while evolution is the accepted theory, something can always come along to disprove it. Not that long ago, everyone KNEW the Earth was both flat and the center of the universe.
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03-03-2009, 12:48 AM
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^ Sorry, but not really. Some specifics of the theory might be refuted, sure, but just like we aren't really going to find out tomorrow that gravity was just a bunch of invicible leprechauns pulling us towards things, we aren't going to find out that populations of organism don't change through time. They do
"Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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03-03-2009, 12:49 AM
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Re: Evolution
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I just remember that while evolution is the accepted theory, something can always come along to disprove it. Not that long ago, everyone KNEW the Earth was both flat and the center of the universe.
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It doesnt apply. The theory of evolution is solid, it's entirely based upon Pure undeniable Logic. The earth being flat thing was an assumption, the evidence for it was the lack of contradiction, that's how religion gets ya.
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03-03-2009, 01:18 AM
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Re: Evolution
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The reason Africa is less developed is bacause it's more prone to natural disaster.
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No, it's because there are no seasons. A cold climate (like Europe, Asia, America) forces people each year to plan for the coming winter. The people who neglect to put aside provisions for the winter die, thus hastening evolution.
Africans are actually victims of a friendly climate. There is less imperative to develop tool making abilities - other than the spear, and not much motivation to plan for the future.
Of course there are lions, which helps explain their excellent running and jumping abilities.
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03-03-2009, 03:34 AM
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Re: Evolution
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I just remember that while evolution is the accepted theory, something can always come along to disprove it. Not that long ago, everyone KNEW the Earth was both flat and the center of the universe.
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Yeah dude, thats just fucking stupid.
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03-03-2009, 04:23 AM
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03-03-2009, 04:37 AM
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All I'm saying is that nobody has come along and said "Check this out, I have a line of fossils in million year increments that show how animal A evolved into animal B."
Just saying "It makes logical sense" does not make it fact. Five hundred years ago, someone could climb a tree and say "The land appears flat in every direction, therefore it makes logical sense that the world is flat." That logic wasn't disproven until someone physically sailed around the damn world.
I'm not saying creationism is right, in fact it has no evidence whatsoever to support it. I'm saying we can't currently be sure, and it's stupid to say "Well, that's the only logical thing I can come up with, so it must be true," and call that fact.
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03-03-2009, 06:07 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by The Creator of Life
Ask them why they think we have a tailbone, it serves no purpose and was left behind by our new evolved state.
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The appendix as well.
In fact, it can kill you, but serves no purpose whatsoever.
Why would god do that? >.>
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03-03-2009, 06:08 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by Rocko
All I'm saying is that nobody has come along and said "Check this out, I have a line of fossils in million year increments that show how animal A evolved into animal B."
Just saying "It makes logical sense" does not make it fact. Five hundred years ago, someone could climb a tree and say "The land appears flat in every direction, therefore it makes logical sense that the world is flat." That logic wasn't disproven until someone physically sailed around the damn world.
I'm not saying creationism is right, in fact it has no evidence whatsoever to support it. I'm saying we can't currently be sure, and it's stupid to say "Well, that's the only logical thing I can come up with, so it must be true," and call that fact.
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Evolution is absolutely true.
Case in point: Antibiotic resistance. Very simple example of evolution
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03-03-2009, 06:25 AM
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i have to deal with stubborn creationists sometimes. i just decide to leave then alone
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03-03-2009, 06:31 AM
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Lol
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i have to deal with stubborn creationists sometimes. i just decide to leave then alone
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Fuck that wait for them and then run them over
tell the cops opppsss i guess i created roadkill
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03-03-2009, 08:27 AM
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Sounds like she just needs a good beating. Afterwards you could tie her to a chair, clamp her eyes open and force her to watch the entire "Why Do People Laugh at Creationists?" series.
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03-03-2009, 08:46 AM
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Case in point: Antibiotic resistance. Very simple example of evolution
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Strictly speaking that's only evidence of microevolution under the unnatural influence of man. It's little things like that which these people will cling on to and then bang on about your 'unscientific argument', no matter what you say afterwards.
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03-03-2009, 10:11 AM
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Re: Evolution
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Originally Posted by Rocko
I just remember that while evolution is the accepted theory, something can always come along to disprove it. Not that long ago, everyone KNEW the Earth was both flat and the center of the universe.
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Yes, but the Earth being flat and the center of the Universe was based on people talking out of their asses, and based on the bullshit of the Catholic church.
What we (Those of us without delusions, anyway) believe now is based on science, the scientific method, and a shit-stack of time and investigation.
The theory of Evolution is possible to prove, there's evidence, we can use Math and Science to support our theory. Christians use a 2000+ year old book with an unknown author and a faith with a history of standing in the way of knowledge and progress.
In short, if I had to choose a side to agree with, I'm not going to choose the side that asks me to just take their word for it.
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