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Old 10-02-2010, 08:13 PM
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Default How To: Opiate Cold Water Extraction

Ok kids, I have seen a lot of posts lately of folks taking large amounts of acetaminophen (aka APAP, paracetamol; brand name Tylenol) when getting high off opiates. There are numerous instructions on the internet but folks seem to struggle with a basic Google search.

Below are instructions on how to complete a Cold Water Extraction (CWE) in order to get rid of nasty stuff. This is incredibly easy even your retarded cousin could probably complete this successfully. Really, if you do not learn how to do this you are either:

1. Lazy as fuck
2. More stupid than your cousin
3. Are dying to get on a liver transplant list

Now, the general guideline is one should not consume more than 2g (2000mg) of APAP per day. If you exceed this amount by a little, you should be fine. However, given that many of us consume our fair share of chemicals, it is a good idea to keep your liver as healthy as possible so I would highly advise it.

The below method will work with any opiate that contains APAP, aspirin, or ibuprofen (someone correct me if there are any exceptions).

You will need:

Pills of your choice
Water
Ice
A glass container/cup - Why glass? Because glass does not react with the solution and it gets cold fast. Plastic sucks, you will be waiting a long time.
A glass or metal bowl large enough to hold the glass container
Filter of some sort. I use coffee filters because they are cheap but you could go out and buy a high quality lab filter
Thermometer (nice, but not absolutely necessary)

For this example I am using 50 Tylenol 1s. Each pill contains 325mg APAP, 8mg codeine, and 15mg caffeine. In Canada one can buy Tylenol 1s over-the-counter (sorry Americans). Now, 50 pills equals 16250mg of APAP (16.25g) more than enough to make me sick as a dog or land me in the hospital; however, I want that 400mg of codeine. Clear?

**NOTE: this method does not remove the caffeine so be warned if you are sensitive to it. Im a heavy coffee drinker so it doesnt bother me.**

STEP 1: Make Solution

Grind pills. Use whatever method you want as long as it turns it into a powder with no chucks. Im using a plain old coffee grinder.

Put powder in glass container.
Add hot water note I said hot, not boiling. Boiling water will destroy the codeine. If it uncomfortable to the touch, it is hot enough. I generally use 2mL of water per pill; therefore, for this example I am using 100mL of water.
Mix well.


STEP 2: Make ice water bath
Put codeine solution container in bowl and surround with as much ice as you can.
Fill bowl with cold water.
Put in freezer.


STEP 3: Wait
Find something to occupy your time pick your nose, look up porn, screw your girlfriend, whatever. Myself, Im downing a nice grapefruit cocktail. Why? Because grapefruit juice is said to potentiate opiates. Ask a biochemist why this happens because I cant explain it.

Wait until the solution is really cold but not frozen. I try to aim for 1-3C (33-37F). If you dont have a thermometer; well, youre have to guess. If you have a frozen layer on your ice bath you are probably pretty close.
Why is this important? Well, APAP and the like do not dissolve well in cold water while opiates have no problem. Hence, if the solution is close to freezing the APAP will separate out while the opiate will remain in the solution.


STEP 4: Filter
Grab your filter Im using 3 plain coffee filters stacked on each other. Soak the coffee filter in the ice bath water to get it cold and squeeze excess water out.
Filter solution some folks use the wait and let it drip method which takes forever. Personally, Im not that patient. I fold up the edges of the filter to form a pouch and VERY gently squeeze the water out. If you squeeze too hard the filer will rip and you will have to start the filtration over again.
Squeeze all water out. The solution should be CLEAR no milky colour or white chunks. If it is not clear, repeat the filtration.

Discard the nasty APAP putty. Throw it away, build a sculpture, whatever.
TOTAL TIME = 45min

STEP 5: Enjoy
You have a few options here 1. Drink solution 2. Plug it in your bum 3. Dry for future use
If you really want to impress your friends drink the solution straight. If you dont gag, then you are a true man. Personally, Im comfortable with my masculinity and mix it with a strong flavoured beverage such as orange or cranberry juice. I add a few tbsp of sugar to the drink because even with the strong juice, it is bitter as fuck. Or...
Grab a large syringe (with no needle stupid) and your Astrolube and plug it. Dont worry, this does not make you gay and if you are gay; well, you probably have more than enough Astrolube to spare. Or...
Dry over very low heat. Again, too much heat destroys the opiate. Pour solution in a wide pan in order to increase the surface area. Either use a hair dryer or put it in your over on the lowest setting. DO NOT put it out in the sun sunlight breaks down opiates. Personally, I dont trust my oven so I put it on the lowest setting plus crack the door open a little. Wait till it is dry and scrape up the white residue. If you use codeine and are good at chemistry, you can take your dried product and convert it to morphine.
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Good job, anything to reduce dumb threads is always good. Will it stop people from posting those threads? probably not.
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Good stuff, man. A detailed write-up is always nice. This one even has pics!

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Default Re: How To: Opiate Cold Water Extraction

I do about 25-40 CWE's a month, being a predominantly OTC opioid user and having access to stupid amounts of DHC via pharmacies.

Nice write up brah, note that you don't have to cool the solution if it's lukewarm you'll have no problems with excess APAP.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:26 PM
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This guide is fucking top notch, and pretty funny too. Only problem I saw is that the daily limit for APAP is generall accepted as 4g (it might be 2g in one dose though), but we all know 5g+ in one dose won't hurt you, if its a one time thing. I've personally done 6g+ doses and seen people do more, consider this a bit worse than an extremely heavy night with vodka where you spew everywhere, black out and break everything; terrible for your liver, but you'll live as long as its not a common thing. CWE is so easy to do (as OP states and explains), that you really have no excuse not to do it.

BTW- this guide goes for any opiate/opioid mixed with APAP, that included Vicoden (hydrocodone) and Percocet (oxycodone). On the bottle it will say 5/325 or 5/500 etc... the first number is the number of mg of the opiate, the following number is the number of milligrams of APAP.

An alternative way to do this is to instead of starting with warm water, just drop the powdered pills in cold water. Stir carefully and continue with the filtering. You should filter a few times as some of the opiate may get left behind in with the APAP; inversely an inevitably small amount of APAP will probably end up in your solution, its negligible.
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Default Re: How To: Opiate Cold Water Extraction

Also, i find you can never mask the taste of a CWE, it's best just to throw that shit down your throat as fast as possible and chase it with water (fizzy drinks make you burp gulping them down too fast and when you're trying not to hurl it's best to avoid said burping.)
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I guess perpetuating good info is always a good thing, but isn't the procedure all over the place?
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CWE's don't even taste that bad. Try smoking some meth and lighting it for too long. That shit will make you puke instantly.
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Will this work with vicodin?
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Good write up, even if it is just on CWEs.

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Sweet I get 120 x Norco 325 mg / 10 mg every month. I was thinking about switching to roxicodone 15 mg though just to get away from the APAP altogether.
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Excellent post for cold water extraction! wow. Im impressed.
I'm still a simple country bitch and would rather just chew that motherfucker.LOL
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Excellent post for cold water extraction! wow. Im impressed.
I'm still a trailer park bitch and would rather just gum that motherfucker.LOL

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I guess perpetuating good info is always a good thing, but isn't the procedure all over the place?
It is all over the internet but folks can't seem to search. At least this way maybe some kids will read this before doing stupid shit.
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Yeah i think ive written up CWE procedures in painstaking depth at least 3 or 4 times, but still get people asking questions about it, or about how much APAP is safe to take. Im actually kind of pissed off about it. It was obviously a complete waste of my time.
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Necro Bump... But thanks op been looking everywhere for a proper guide to CWE little did I know we had one here on &Z Thanks again I just Did a bunch of percs and have myself a nice drink for sometime.
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Necro Bump... But thanks op been looking everywhere for a proper guide to CWE little did I know we had one here on &Z Thanks again I just Did a bunch of percs and have myself a nice drink for sometime.
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So I had 25 2.5mg perc demis. I took 4 to start and did this process. The op says the liquid should be all clear afterwards (mine had a very little blue tinge to it) So I took one of my needles Drew up 2 cc's plugged it All I can say is wow I was straight fucked up. I ended up drinking the last bit of first batch then proceeded extracting the other 21 pills and have a fluid ounce and a half of extract. I'm thinking this weekend should be fun.
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I've done a lot of CWE's, I dissolve them in warm water, stir for 15 or so minutes, let it sit for 15 minutes, strain it through a sock, add some juice, wait a few more minutes for any apap to go to the bottom then I drink.

I do it lazy as fuck and my liver is still just about working.

PS my water is always white, but I think that's more due to the shit they add to the pills than the APAP.
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Also, i find you can never mask the taste of a CWE, it's best just to throw that shit down your throat as fast as possible and chase it with water (fizzy drinks make you burp gulping them down too fast and when you're trying not to hurl it's best to avoid said burping.)
That double strength squash you get isn't "too" bad for masking it.

Or Ribena.
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