Lets see some evidence that blacks are equal!

[HAS]

Originally Posted by lethargic

If you want to divide everything up by race then you silly white people should know by now that Asians are the master race.

[Mr.Happy]

Originally Posted by Dr Josef Mengele

And as I said the main issue is political correctness. People should be able to say, do and associate with whoever the fuck they want, be they anti-racist or racist.

Or black or white?

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[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

Or black or white?

Yes, I believe in tribal/local communities with their own set standards to live in. I'm not your typical "white nationalist" or stomrfronter, infact I've been banned from those forums too many times to take them seriously.

http://www.national-anarchist.net/20...ifesto_18.html

That can sum up a few of my views on it, but obviously I'm my own person and have my own set of ideals too.

[Flex Rigid]

Dr. Joseph Mengele: All the science in the world won't answer the ethical question of why they shouldn't be treated equally.

I wonder what underlies your lack of empathy. My guess is it's something pathological.

[HAS]

Originally Posted by Flex Rigid

Dr. Joseph Mengele: All the science in the world won't answer the ethical question of why they shouldn't be treated equally.

I wonder what underlies your lack of empathy. My guess is it's something pathological.

Define "treated equally." I understand the philosophical idea of moral equality, as opposed to actual, empirical equality. Just in case any of you are getting the wrong idea, I have no desire to be deliberately malicious to Negroes or anyone else. I have no problem with them running their own societies and being allowed complete self-determination. Affirmative action, miscegenation, forced integration, massive Third World immigration, white wealth being redistributed to nonwhites, and leniency with nonwhite criminals on the other hand...

[Dog]

HAS, you failed to address my earlier point. It's a sheer statistical fact that the majority of the human population (likely including yourself, but definitely including many of your white friends and family) is significantly inferior to about 35% of the population on measures of intelligence. Indeed, you'll find a bell curve distribution not just for intelligence, but for virtually any measure of human ability and performance.

If intellectual inferiority is grounds for segregation or discrimination, most white people would belong to the inferior class, and again, that likely includes yourself.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Maybe white people are just better at not getting caught, ever think of that?


cause I know I be committing crimes on the daily, and I'm not black at all!


Face it, there's dumb black people, there's smart black people, there's smart white people, and there's dumb white people. One thing you have to remember is, we are all PEOPLE. So yes, blacks and whites are equally human. You can't argue with this, unless you're incapable of brain functions.

[Alejandro Calvert Gálvez]

Originally Posted by Neuron

I read this book recently, written by an economist and NY Times writer, called Freakonomics and somewhere in the book it is mentioned that black and white kids from similar socioeconomic backgrounds do similarly well in school.

Actually, this turned out to be false, kinda. [It turns out that black and white students from good backgrounds do similarly well INITIALLY but LATER a gap arises]. Here's a quote from the book:

Worse yet, even when the parent's income and education are controlled for, the black-white gap reappears within just two years of a child's entering school. By the end of the first grade, a black child is underperforming a statistically equivalent white child. And the gap steadily grows over the second and third grades.

(p.164)

The writer then goes on to talk about how poor quality schools disadvantage black students.

IDK, read the book if you're interested.

[Dog]

Originally Posted by Neuron

Actually, this turned out to be false, kinda. [It turns out that black and white students from good backgrounds do similarly well INITIALLY but LATER a gap arises]. Here's a quote from the book:


(p.164)

The writer then goes on to talk about how poor quality schools disadvantage black students.

IDK, read the book if you're interested.

Controlling for parents' money and education doesn't really control for many cultural variables. How does it account for the fact that all black children are exposed to "black culture", with all of its failures and shortcomings, and have some prerogative to identify with it? How does it account for the fact that many black parents with bachelor's degrees might raise their children in accordance with black culture, and not with middle-class, educated white culture?

And of course, something that has to be considered with virtually any statistic comparing racial performance is stereotype threat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat)

[Alejandro Calvert Gálvez]

Keyword: "might". In actuality, I doubt that educated and high income black parents raise their children in accordance with 'black culture'. I mean, I'd imagine that with higher education you'd realize that this 'black culture' may be hindering. If you're smart, you like mind stimulating things not superficial shit. Then again, I'm not black...

[Dog]

Originally Posted by Neuron

Keyword: "might". In actuality, I doubt that educated and high income black parents raise their children in accordance with 'black culture'. I mean, I'd imagine that with higher education you'd realize that this 'black culture' may be hindering. If you're smart, you like mind stimulating things not superficial shit. Then again, I'm not black...

Having a bachelor's degree doesn't make you "smart". It really just means you managed to pay 80 to 160k for a diploma and passed all of your classes. Go to a state school, look around, and then try to tell me that black graduates don't hold onto their culture.

And think about what you're saying: If these well-off black families in the study are clean-cut, culturally competent, successful, and well-educated (think Cosby), why did they succeed while their offspring (with highly similar genes) didn't?

[Alejandro Calvert Gálvez]

Originally Posted by Dog

Having a bachelor's degree doesn't make you "smart". It really just means you managed to pay 80 to 160k for a diploma and passed all of your classes. Go to a state school, look around, and then try to tell me that black graduates don't hold onto their culture.

And think about what you're saying: If these well-off black families in the study are clean-cut, culturally competent, successful, and well-educated (think Cosby), why did they succeed while their offspring (with highly similar genes) didn't?

Fact: the study isn't saying that the black kids from good backgrounds are failing, but it is saying that they're underperforming white kids from similar backgrounds. They can still go on to college, like their parents, but they may not score as well the white kids - as the study info suggests.

[King of the world]

Have you ever heard of The Price Equation?
Evolution of altruism?
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The program admits that there is mathematical proof that "Human beings are genetically programmed to take care of others even when they 'aren't directly related'."

"aren't directly related" is a very cryptic way of saying "racial group".

The basic concept of the Price Equation is this: A single person can only have one set of genes; however, the group that he belongs to may have thousands of individuals who share copies of each and every gene that he has. Therefore, the well being of the group is important to him. This is why altruism has evolved.

If there are two groups of people, then the individual should favour the group that shares the most common genes. Therefore "Acts of violence against 'unrelated outsiders' can also make evolutionary sense, even if you lose your own life in the attack."

The evolutionary logic of altruism is mathematically twinned with the evolutionary logic of racism. Together they create a feedback loop that only makes evolutionary sense when they are both present.

The rest of what I have to say about this is in the racism thread a few pages back in this very section.

[Randy "Fuck Brad Childress" Moss]

This thread is full of bitchy little white boys complaining that a black guy took his girl... Complain all you want, we aren't going anywhere. Better move on to the Indian pussy while it's fresh

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Randy "Fuck Green Bay" Moss81

This thread is full of bitchy little white boys complaining that a black guy took his girl

What a surprise, a mutt that can't or won't read lol.
It's an old myth about the white women black cock lovers, it's infact shown recently that black women would prefer a white man over a fellow nignog, lol. Besides it's not like you can talk, not as if you could ever get laid let alone take a white girl, you silly mutt.

[Randy "Fuck Brad Childress" Moss]

Originally Posted by Dr Josef Mengele

What a surprise, a mutt that can't or won't read lol.
It's an old myth about the white women black cock lovers, it's infact shown recently that black women would prefer a white man over a fellow nignog, lol. Besides it's not like you can talk, not as if you could ever get laid let alone take a white girl, you silly mutt.

i read, skimmed through as most of it was trash anyways... I didn't even bother reading what you wrote since it's probably damage control anyway. I'm having fun fucking your white ass mom right now she feels great.

Edit: just read your post, LMAO

[King of the world]

EL OH FUCKIN EL, indeed...

[Morb]

Only the unequal worry about inequality.

People who think another person is "unequal" because of their race are inferior. Inferior in thought.

History demonstrates how those who judge people simply according to race are almost always losers in the end.

If you want to feel important in this world by using race to do it, trying to demonstrate that those of another race are inferior to yourself, you are engaging in a comically ironic satire of yourself.

[King of the world]

Very cute

[TheDarkRodent]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

Prove that white people are the equal of blacks first, then we'll talk. The whole point is, there is no evidence to say anybody is inherently better than anybody else.

Your casual observation is just that, an observation made casually that doesn't stand up to real scrutiny.

According to a report I recall reading in the last couple of years some brainiacs who are mapping human genetics released a study which showed that the gene associated with genius was much less prevalent in blacks that it was in whites.

However I seriously doubt that those studies lived up to the exacting scientific standards you hold yourself to there Professor Boddledik

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Megalodon

Maybe white people are just better at not getting caught, ever think of that?


cause I know I be committing crimes on the daily, and I'm not black at all!

I liked this bit of your post. I don't give a shit about niggers commiting crimes, infact I like the fact that the people who kill the most black people are fellow black people. All the crime statistics show are that niggers make shit criminals.

[Slapshot]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

Did I make a concrete claim?

No, I just find it amusing how libs like yourself dance around racially sensitive issues that can be summed up in one sentence.

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

Does your logic stop those with a racist agenda making concrete claims?

Thats your problem. I encourage those with a racist agenda.

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

By this logic - which HAS thanked - you can't possibly make the claim that blacks are genetically inferior or predisposed to violent crime with any certainty. Correlation =/= causation, after all!

I don't actually believe that niggers are disliked because of the color of their skin, that just makes them easier to identify, nor do I believe that there is any one single reason to dislike niggers, there are dozens.

I couldn't care less why niggers act the way they do, I despise their behaviors regardless. If a group of niggers was harassing your family, would you give a flying fuck about their lack of social mobility?

edit:

No such research exists, as far as I'm aware. That's the problem, but if you agree that poverty, education and social status are correlated with crime, and that blacks tend to score lower on these dimensions, then you have a clear indicator that at least part of the link - and possibly most or all - is social and environmental, not genetic.

This is preposterous, considering my logic. Most if not all? I'd say the chances of somebody who leads a life of crime remaining poor and destitute with no social/economic mobility are pretty fucking obvious. If poverty has any effect on somebody's propensity to commit crimes, it's minimal at best.

[Randy "Fuck Brad Childress" Moss]

Originally Posted by Dr Josef Mengele

I liked this bit of your post. I don't give a shit about niggers commiting crimes, infact I like the fact that the people who kill the most black people are fellow black people. All the crime statistics show are that niggers make shit criminals.

who is this terrible troll? Bring back Brandon and driveby, quick!

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Slapshot

This is preposterous, considering my logic. Most if not all? I'd say the chances of somebody who leads a life of crime remaining poor and destitute with no social/economic mobility are pretty fucking obvious. If poverty has any effect on somebody's propensity to commit crimes, it's minimal at best.

So of course, by your logic, we would expect that the parental income of the average criminal fall alongside the national average and then after the individual starts committing crime, does his income start falling below that average. Correct?

Go ahead. Show us that.

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Randy "Fuck Green Bay" Moss81

who is this terrible troll? Bring back Brandon and driveby, quick!

Terrible troll?

LOL.
Speaking of terrible trolls, shut the fuck up macgruber you chubby cheeked nigger gook, brandon was a crap troll, just like you.

Just out of curiosity, what made you decide I was a terrible troll from that post? All you have to do is watch any show like cops, look at the prison statistics and look at the news to prove my point that niggers are always getting caught because they're dumbasses. On a slightly related note I love how even when they're the minority it's the whites who run the inside of those prison walls. Any truly memorable, admirable, genius and best "criminals" are white or jewish. Most notorious too.

Thank goodness for the aryan brotherhood and public enemy number 1 to knock you niggers down in your rightful place. Niggers and spics are shit scared of them.

[Flex Rigid]

Originally Posted by HAS

Define "treated equally." I understand the philosophical idea of moral equality, as opposed to actual, empirical equality. Just in case any of you are getting the wrong idea, I have no desire to be deliberately malicious to Negroes or anyone else. I have no problem with them running their own societies and being allowed complete self-determination. Affirmative action, miscegenation, forced integration, massive Third World immigration, white wealth being redistributed to nonwhites, and leniency with nonwhite criminals on the other hand...

Yes, I mean moral equality, hence my stating that it was an ethical question.

I wonder how you maintain any notion of moral equality while advocating that whole ethnic groups be removed from society. The whole "separate but equal" stance doesn't strike me as a good position to take. If you held everyone to be of the same moral worth, why would you forbid them to take part in your society on the basis of ethnic background alone?

[Randy "Fuck Brad Childress" Moss]

Originally Posted by Dr Josef Mengele

Terrible troll?

LOL.
Speaking of terrible trolls, shut the fuck up macgruber you chubby cheeked nigger gook, brandon was a crap troll, just like you.

Just out of curiosity, what made you decide I was a terrible troll from that post? All you have to do is watch any show like cops, look at the prison statistics and look at the news to prove my point that niggers are always getting caught because they're dumbasses. On a slightly related note I love how even when they're the minority it's the whites who run the inside of those prison walls. Any truly memorable, admirable, genius and best "criminals" are white or jewish. Most notorious too.

Thank goodness for the aryan brotherhood and public enemy number 1 to knock you niggers down in your rightful place. Niggers and spics are shit scared of them.

I have a feeling this is IloveKevinlove'sdick... he probably orgasmed when he got that 30-30

[thendoftheline]

The western world has been selfishly destroying black populations for a long time. They're pretty fucked thanks to that influence. You're an example of how racism isn't dead for instance. Why don't you think of an example where black people are just plain fucked up without white people factoring into the scenario somehow. If white people thought they should stay away from blacks they would have stayed out of black regions without trying to spread their ways, and assert control over them.

Racism and entitlement is a huge factor. You nor I know what it's like to grow up in a world in which we're largely considered to be a second class. That alone is enough for some people to say fuck it, and fuck everything that is oppressing me. It's harder to derive positive sociocultural inclinations this way, and all people are predisposed to selfishness equally. Though black people will share a common thread in this regard, it can be seen that they may not find unity in it, just like you don't personally give a fuck about everybody of your race.

They have wants and needs like the rest of us, but they don't have a white history in the united states, which has brought countless more white people wealth from birth than that of our black counterparts, and along with it: arrogance. Sure some white people are similarly plagued by a poverty-stricken lineage, but we've always found it easier to piggy-back our way into a more positive future. Many of us (like you), perpetuate the idea of being fundamentally different (which have been so historically, but not necessarily any more or less intelligent/violent just different), and instead of adapting to them have chosen to reject/oppress/demean, forcing them to adapt against us in significant numbers to this day.

[HAS]

Originally Posted by Flex Rigid

I wonder how you maintain any notion of moral equality while advocating that whole ethnic groups be removed from society. The whole "separate but equal" stance doesn't strike me as a good position to take. If you held everyone to be of the same moral worth, why would you forbid them to take part in your society on the basis of ethnic background alone?

They have their own societies and their presence is clearly harmful to our society. Let me ask you this, why isn't Japan taking in refugees from Africa? It's a very wealthy country, sure they could do their part? Why aren't you white liberals upset about this? Why isn't Africa taking in hard-working, more intelligent immigrants from Asia on a large scale? Certainly there's work that needs to be done in Africa and Asians could do it.

Asking all white societies to take in nonwhites and integrate with them while not asking the same of any nonwhite societies is not "diversity", it's genocide against whites.

[HAS]

Originally Posted by thendoftheline

You're an example of how racism isn't dead for instance.

Victim of evil white racism:


Nigger has been left alone in Africa and is therefore not a victim of racism:


To reiterate my point, if racism is so horrible, why don't nonwhites just leave? Apparently living under racist oppression in white countries is not nearly as bad as living amongst their own kind back wherever they've come from.

[ilovechronic]

In AZ there are not even any black people on death row and there has not been any blacks on DR for a while. It is mostly white people on death row here besides a few natives and a mexican or two have been on death row in the past like 10 years.

[Mr.Happy]

Originally Posted by Slapshot

This is preposterous, considering my logic. Most if not all? I'd say the chances of somebody who leads a life of crime remaining poor and destitute with no social/economic mobility are pretty fucking obvious. If poverty has any effect on somebody's propensity to commit crimes, it's minimal at best.

That's funny, because I posted quite a reasonable chunk of research which contradicts this statement, but I certainly haven't seen anything from you substantiating it.

I might say that the chances of someone born poor and destitute in an environment with no social or economic mobility turning to a life of crime are pretty high too, but your mind is made up already, right?

[slickt0mmy]

I have no problem with blacks as long as they aren't freeloading and expecting handouts to keep their families fed. And the same goes for whites, or any other race. I don't think you can lump everyone of an entire race into "These people are bad. Those people are good."
I'm not racist. I just judge people based on their specific contributions to society and their families.

[thendoftheline]

Originally Posted by HAS

To reiterate my point, if racism is so horrible, why don't nonwhites just leave? Apparently living under racist oppression in white countries is not nearly as bad as living amongst their own kind back wherever they've come from.

...Because we also corrupted their "home" in Africa by starting a culture of violence born of our interests, and fueled by a western sense of wealth.

Also, Barack grew up in Hawaii, which he stated to have inspired his worldview thanks to its inhabitants mutual-respect within a multicultural society.

[reggie_love]

I don't really buy racist arguments. African countries are fucked because colonial powers drew them that way. We probably wouldn't be doing so well either if China invaded the US and made it so west Texas and northern Mexico were a new country.

Now, in the US, I think culture is to blame. I was thinking about this the other day and I realized that I can't deny that I'm uncomfortable around certain black people, but cool with others. It's not because their skin is black, as racists here are alleging, but rather because they're thugs. If you met white people who dressed and acted like this (and they're out there, in the crappier parts of boston for example) you'd be uncomfortable the same way. Mainstream culture in this country tells young black men that they should be thugs and gangstas. Their biological race has nothing to do with it.

You can be a black person and do anything a white person can in society. However, if you forsake your education, impregnate a league of teenagers, receive constant messages that crime is cool, and spend your minimum wage paycheck on 24" rims, of course you're going to live a worthless life.

So... I'd say all races are equal, it's just that they grow up being taught different values. Mainstream black values in the US are really crappy. As for whose fault this is, I don't know, you could say it's the media elite or black people themselves, but I think whatever the cause this is the real "race" problem in the US.

[Dread_Lord]

It gives me a good laugh when people say that niggers are just like them. So much so that they meet the definition of the world "Equal".

These people are stupid and it's better to just ignore them. They know nothing of evolution/speciation.

The best part is that they're claiming they are the same as, well, lets just give an example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6KC2UNawYY


These are their equals. Treat them accordingly.

[HAS]

Originally Posted by reggie_love

I don't really buy racist arguments. African countries are fucked because colonial powers drew them that way. We probably wouldn't be doing so well either if China invaded the US and made it so west Texas and northern Mexico were a new country.

England colonized Ireland and Scotland, Poland took over Russia for a period, Northern African Barbary pirates attacked England, England subjugated and attacked America, Germany took over France, etc...

So why aren't white countries in the same state as Africa?

[HAS]

Originally Posted by reggie_love

Mainstream black values in the US are really crappy.

Could you give an example of anywhere where black values are good?

As much as you criticize African-Americans, they're still -- as a whole -- the wealthiest, most educated group of Negroes in the entire world. So what evidence do you have that Negroes are not all rubbish?

[Yurpen]

Physically superior? Yes they are more monkey than most.