Archived: Shoplifting Tools of the Trade II

[gurugu]

Originally Posted by gurugu

I have a doubt in the alignment of the magnets.
It would be like in the photo attached?





Thanks you.

Somebody can ask me?

[FutabaUK]

Stupid noob question... But say you buy an N50, N52 or N54 magnet... The ones with 100+ lbs of pull... How the fuck do you guys carry them without them flying around your bag/pocket and sticking to everything?

Ive got a couple of pretty good Neo's that I pulled out of an industrial tool for cleaning swarf (metal shavings) and the pair of them together require something jamming EXTREMELY hard in between them to part them.... They are about 1/2 the size of one of these beasts though.

Thanks

[STD]

Originally Posted by illusionist

Well I am asking because John never carried any tools on him ,except a razor blade.Usually alarms are put in the seam of the clothes. So John used to cut the seam in the dressing room.

But , once ,long time ago (the only one he got caught) John got caught in ZARA store with a pair of shoes in his bag .John did not know at that time that shoes has the alarm in the sole .So the security stoped John , put John in the back room and they were waiting for the police.In the meantime he asked John if he has anything odd on him , because he told him police will search him and it is better to tell from the beginning.So John told him he has a razor blade in the pocket .

Anyway , the point of this story is that John is afraid to get caught with professional tools on him,because this would create more problems.

So I was wondering if maybe John can find a way to hide the detacher in a built-in detacher bag.Like an elegant leather bag , with double layer or a added inside poket , and only to put the bag next to the alarm in order to detach it .

Also in winter he can use a built in detacher coat , an elegant one , with the detacher attached inside it, covered by a thin layer of lining, over the detacher.

What do you think about this ideea?

Original thinking, I like

It shouldn't be too hard to do that...

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

I didn't read that, just skimmed it a little. It's too hard on the eyes to see 'X' posted instead of some random name or 'my friend'. I did notice the 'my' in there...

This too.

[JustinBieberz]

Originally Posted by FutabaUK

Stupid noob question... But say you buy an N50, N52 or N54 magnet... The ones with 100+ lbs of pull... How the fuck do you guys carry them without them flying around your bag/pocket and sticking to everything?

Ive got a couple of pretty good Neo's that I pulled out of an industrial tool for cleaning swarf (metal shavings) and the pair of them together require something jamming EXTREMELY hard in between them to part them.... They are about 1/2 the size of one of these beasts though.

Thanks

You should watch out for metal tables, etc. There is no way to shield against magnetic fields, except by making distance between your magnet and the metal object.

[ace]

Originally Posted by gurugu

Somebody can ask me?

sorry, wasnt sure what you said . But yes thats the correct alignment. the magnets will all stick to eachother when you get it correct.

[ace]

Originally Posted by FutabaUK

Stupid noob question... But say you buy an N50, N52 or N54 magnet... The ones with 100+ lbs of pull... How the fuck do you guys carry them without them flying around your bag/pocket and sticking to everything?

Ive got a couple of pretty good Neo's that I pulled out of an industrial tool for cleaning swarf (metal shavings) and the pair of them together require something jamming EXTREMELY hard in between them to part them.... They are about 1/2 the size of one of these beasts though.

Thanks

Try not to get a magnet that is too big, so its easier to take off if your jacket gets stuck to a shopping cart

[gurugu]

Thanks ACE.
Regards.

[Davidjr97]

Hi everyone Im new to this site. Ive been reading almost all the threads for shoplifting and I thought I would give it a try I just purchased 4 n48 magnets 1/2 x 1/4 x 1/8 I was just wondering what kind of tags or security devices I could remove with it i found the polaraties and I am thinking of putting it in a 2x2 formation and putting electrical tape over it . Is this right? Also I bought a sensormatic hook tag of dh gate for only like 5 buck? Should I have bought the legit one. Thanks for taking the time to read a noobs first post. Lol

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Davidjr97

Hi everyone Im new to this site. Ive been reading almost all the threads for shoplifting and I thought I would give it a try I just purchased 4 n48 magnets 1/2 x 1/4 x 1/8 I was just wondering what kind of tags or security devices I could remove with it i found the polaraties and I am thinking of putting it in a 2x2 formation and putting electrical tape over it . Is this right? Also I bought a sensormatic hook tag of dh gate for only like 5 buck? Should I have bought the legit one. Thanks for taking the time to read a noobs first post. Lol

With those magnets you should be able to remove Alpha tags, pencil tags & supertag 1.

As for the hook, just try it out.

[Davidjr97]

Ok and I put the magnets in a two by two formation on like a piece of medal with electrical tape over it right?

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Davidjr97

Ok and I put the magnets in a two by two formation on like a piece of medal with electrical tape over it right?

Yes.

[SBTlauien]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

With those magnets you should be able to remove Alpha tags, pencil tags & supertag 1.

They can also unlock those little locks they put on the end of peg hooks. My friend unlocked one of those for the first time last week. He could have just cut the package though...

[JustinBieberz]

Originally Posted by SBTlauien

They can also unlock those little locks they put on the end of peg hooks. My friend unlocked one of those for the first time last week. He could have just cut the package though...

Yeah, the S3 key unlocks just about every product made by alpha

[Davidjr97]

I live in canada Do they have alphas? I never really payed attention to the security stuff when i was doing small time shit. Do u guys no?

[Davidjr97]

And also are u guys reffering to my magnets taped in a 4x4 formation as an s3 key? If so than what is the diffrence between my s3 key and the stores one?

Thanks for all the replies too the noob lol

[No Kool Names]

does any one know an alternate source to buy a superloc other than vinni that accepts paypal?

[grandtissimo]

looking into buying the magnets. but i was stuck with these two:
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...h-Magnets.html
and
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...0178-50NM.html

the first mag has the poles on the two ends while the second one has the poles on the two long sides. Which ones should i get?

Also are the magnets on this site of any good quality? Thanks

[ace]

Originally Posted by grandtissimo

looking into buying the magnets. but i was stuck with these two:
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...h-Magnets.html
and
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...0178-50NM.html

the first mag has the poles on the two ends while the second one has the poles on the two long sides. Which ones should i get?

Also are the magnets on this site of any good quality? Thanks

I suggest buying 4 of these magnets. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...84-N52&cat=168
Most people from Zoklet get theirs from there.

[Davidjr97]

I am just wondering if there is any videos on how to detatch tags with my hook I dont wanna get it wrong and brake the hook

[skygear]

Originally Posted by gurugu

I have a doubt in the alignment of the magnets.
It would be like in the photo attached?





Thanks you.

yes->

+-
-+

not

+-
+-

turn one side around!

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by grandtissimo

looking into buying the magnets. but i was stuck with these two:
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...h-Magnets.html
and
http://www.magnet4sale.com/Neodymium...0178-50NM.html

the first mag has the poles on the two ends while the second one has the poles on the two long sides. Which ones should i get?

Also are the magnets on this site of any good quality? Thanks

IMO, no. The magnet I bought from that site lost it's strength over time. Most swear by K&J Magnetics.

[grandtissimo]

Originally Posted by Davidjr97

I am just wondering if there is any videos on how to detatch tags with my hook I dont wanna get it wrong and brake the hook

yt is ur friend
or if u ordered from Vinni, he should have sent a shipment sent out confirmation email with a picture instruction here (dunno if im allowed to post this):
http://i56.tinypic.com/29sson.jpg

~no marketing or advertising intended!~

[Davidjr97]

Thanks alot and no i dident get it from vinni i got it for 5 dollars from dhgate

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Davidjr97

Thanks alot and no i dident get it from vinni i got it for 5 dollars from dhgate

I just checked out that website & holy shit, do they sell stuff cheap.

[Davidjr97]

Yea I ordered it, it should be here soon there was a delay because of the chinese new year I will keep everyone informed on how it works in the field. Lol also is there anywere where i can buy supertags to practise with. The only ones i seem to find u have to buy in bulk

[grandtissimo]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

I just checked out that website & holy shit, do they sell stuff cheap.

yeah shady i was gonna order that but i ordered vinni instead to see the quality, don't want that shit breaking on u while on the job.

[Davidjr97]

Yea well i bet thats were vinni gets his hooks from.

[grandtissimo]

Originally Posted by Davidjr97

Yea well i bet thats were vinni gets his hooks from.

i don't know if he does or know, but his hooks last, dunno about the dh ones

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by grandtissimo

yeah shady i was gonna order that but i ordered vinni instead to see the quality, don't want that shit breaking on u while on the job.

Yeah, Vinni's products are high quality. I never had any issues with my hook or detacher. I have purchased cheap magnets from other sources & those magnets lost their strength over time but my detacher is like new.

[grandtissimo]

can a magic bag or some sort of foil lined bag or shoe box stop Acousto-magnetic tags? cuz sometimes clothing have it in weird places and some might be missed so if its placed in a box lined with couple layers of tin foil will it do the trick or is the magic bag something that is hit or miss?

[Randay]

I have an issue on where the 4 x 4 magnets should be place on the spider wraps. Can anyone help me on where I should put it.

The wraps are

and



For the mini spider wrap, I tried placing two separate neodymium magnets next to the button. I heard both "clicks" for each of the magnets placed. However, I couldn't open it. Hmm, I have no idea, if I am doing that correctly.

[Oddity]

Hey all, noob question: Are the detachers bad to stick to nearby metal racks and make it obvious you have a magnet in your bag? My friend read a story about Shady's friend getting in that situation with some neodymium magnets, and ideally he would like to avoid that.

Also, my friend is thinking that if he ever gets asked why he has a hook on his lanyard/keychain, he'll just say it's to make his keys harder to pickpocket.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Oddity

Hey all, noob question: Are the detachers bad to stick to nearby metal racks and make it obvious you have a magnet in your bag? My friend read a story about Shady's friend getting in that situation with some neodymium magnets, and ideally he would like to avoid that.

Also, my friend is thinking that if he ever gets asked why he has a hook on his lanyard/keychain, he'll just say it's to make his keys harder to pickpocket.

I'm not understand what this line means. "Are the detachers bad to stick to nearby metal racks and make it obvious you have a magnet in your bag?" Please clarify.

As for the situation with my friend, that happened b/c my friend leaned up right against a metal rack w/o realizing it & the magnet stuck to the rack through the bag. Now, she is very careful & observant about metal.

[grandtissimo]

im getting all different info about making a mag detacher. some say 2 of this works: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...88-N52&cat=168
while other say this:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...X0-N52&cat=168
and this:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RX8CC
Can someone just tell me a simple answer. what mag can open the tags. Shady, if u could make a list of all the mag that can do the job, it would make everyone life way easier. Thanks

[Oddity]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

I'm not understand what this line means. "Are the detachers bad to stick to nearby metal racks and make it obvious you have a magnet in your bag?" Please clarify.

As for the situation with my friend, that happened b/c my friend leaned up right against a metal rack w/o realizing it & the magnet stuck to the rack through the bag. Now, she is very careful & observant about metal.

Certainly. I was referring to the possibility of a superloc detacher that my friend might hide in a messenger bag sticking to a metal rack (while still inside the bag) if he stands too close to one. This would cause the bag to stick to the rack which would obviously reveal that he is hiding a strong magnet. But according to your friend's story, my friend would have to be very close to a rack for this to happen, so it should be easy to avoid. Sorry for the confusion

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Oddity

Certainly. I was referring to the possibility of a superloc detacher that my friend might hide in a messenger bag sticking to a metal rack (while still inside the bag) if he stands too close to one. This would cause the bag to stick to the rack which would obviously reveal that he is hiding a strong magnet. But according to your friend's story, my friend would have to be very close to a rack for this to happen, so it should be easy to avoid. Sorry for the confusion

Yeah, you would have to be really close for it to stick through the bag to metal. My friend actually had leaned against the metal rack. She didn't even think about it till she realized the magnet stuck to the rack through the bag. You also have to watch in some stores, when they are stocking they push around metal carts. I know American Eagles does so you have to be careful to avoid anything metal.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by grandtissimo

Shady, if u could make a list of all the mag that can do the job, it would make everyone life way easier. Thanks

I'm not a magnet expert. Also, these magnets are pricey. I don't have the cash lying around to purchase all kinds of magnets for experimenting. I really recommend just buying a detacher. All you really need is a detacher, S3 key, hook & a blade.

[SBTlauien]

ShadyLady, you should add tape(as in clear tape, permanent circular tape rounds) to the list...used for sealing the box after box stuffing*

My friend just got a bunch of goods stuffing those boxes and sealing them up...

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by SBTlauien

ShadyLady, you should add tape(as in clear tape, permanent circular tape rounds) to the list...used for sealing the box after box stuffing*

My friend just got a bunch of goods stuffing those boxes and sealing them up...

Done. Great suggestion, thanks.

My friend does love boxstuffing.

[someone_]

Hi i need some help.
Today i bought 4 magnets of 2 sizes. I yhought all off them where [+-] but mine are only [+] or [-].
Now i am reading different things on the net. Some say 2 is enough and some say 4.
So ho many do i need to use ? and how to place them ?
Use 2 like [+][-] or do i use 4 like this [+][-]
.................................................. .[-][+]
And do i need space in between or just stick them together? And if i need space in between how many mm ? im not used to inches.

Any help ould be much appreciated.

greets



Any help would be much apreciates