Archived: Shoplifting Tools of the Trade II

[skygear]

^ 50% of the magnetic market.

The other is the Alpha detacher with the 4 magnets.

look in the tools thread.

I saw a video of a 4x2 magnet n52 round that you could use to detach ALL of the magnetic tags. It is very dangerous to even carry something of that strength around.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by nosatisfaction

thank you captain obvious

I know how to use forum sites or internet. That's what I have been doing for last 2 weeks but could get anything neither useful nor determined. I made the last thing I can to get a bit info about this issue by starting a new thread.

BULLSHIT. You clearly do not know how to use the search feature. There is PLENTY of info about what you are asking, you are just too stupid and/or lazy to look.

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=2395792

[nosatisfaction]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

BULLSHIT. You clearly do not know how to use the search feature. There is PLENTY of info about what you are asking, you are just too stupid and/or lazy to look.

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=2395792

I saw this one too but I am looking for a post which means you don't need that big magnet to take the tag off. It is too expensive to afford, If I had enough money to buy a magnet like that, I wouldn't already have to steal I would just go into store and purchase whatever I want.

[upinsmoke]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

BULLSHIT. You clearly do not know how to use the search feature. There is PLENTY of info about what you are asking, you are just too stupid and/or lazy to look.

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=2395792

This^

[nosatisfaction]

would a magnet in a speaker work properly ?

[JustinBieberz]

Originally Posted by nosatisfaction

I saw this one too but I am looking for a post which means you don't need that big magnet to take the tag off. It is too expensive to afford, If I had enough money to buy a magnet like that, I wouldn't already have to steal I would just go into store and purchase whatever I want.

Are you retarded? In order to remove magnetic tags you need a big magnet- whether it be the superloc or something similar. And if you are interested in purchasing items because a detacher is too expensive, then you are shopping at the wrong stores.

[JustinBieberz]

Originally Posted by nosatisfaction

would a magnet in a speaker work properly ?

Probably not

[roasted]

Originally Posted by JustinBieberz

Are you retarded?

I think we all know the answer to this question...

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by roasted

I think we all know the answer to this question...

I would thank this but I'm out of thanks for today.

[skygear]

Ok fine. you want the end all detacher remover? I posted this before also... GET A PAIR OF SNIPS FROM YOUR HARDWARE STORE.

[ace]

For any new members that can't learn to search or read. You need 4 of these magnets to open the security devices on products.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...84-N52&cat=168

[demand]

is there a way of someone gettin caught with Golf SuperLock Detacher FX7 in a shop? after taking a tag off an item and walking out wearing that item under thier coat?

[demand]

Thsi is a great websit eto buy detachers from and any serucity stuff.

http://www.retailsecurityworld.co.uk...hop/Categories

[demand]

and would this Golf SuperLock Detacher FX8 set of any alarms once ive walked in with or out with it?

[skygear]

FUCK! AGAIN? Look you can ask these questions in the proper threads and they will get the same urgency as this thread gets... maybe even better priority since its done properly/.

The detacher itself will not set off the alarm... Lots of places across the world use a source tag in addition to the hard tag that is removed with the detacher.

[MeTheSlayer]

Cheap and chinese sensormatic hooks and golf detachers etc... Im pretty sure you will find what you need here http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/sear...atalog=#search

http://www.dhgate.com/12000g-s-best-...bb17a0665.html

http://www.dhgate.com/detacher-hook-...a98467281.html

hooks are like 5 bucks lol, i mean do sensormatic hooks look like they cost $30 to make?

[skygear]

Originally Posted by MeTheSlayer

Cheap and chinese sensormatic hooks and golf detachers etc... Im pretty sure you will find what you need here http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/sear...atalog=#search

http://www.dhgate.com/12000g-s-best-...bb17a0665.html

http://www.dhgate.com/detacher-hook-...a98467281.html

hooks are like 5 bucks lol, i mean do sensormatic hooks look like they cost $30 to make?

stop with the links... we get the point.

[Shadowz0r]

I am trying to do a little research on the InVue OM key. A few stores have higher end merchandise on peg shelves that use specifically the OM key side to unlock it. The link to it is here http://www.gateway-security.cl/wp-co..._Combo_Key.pdf and I am referring to the metalic piece sticking out of the side. Is it like a lock and key where a specific key is used to open a specific lock or is it another universal key? Yes I know Alpha and InVue are related and have the same s3 key.

[skygear]

it looks like its a magnet and a universal lock...

there is the new IR keys they have too. Issue is they need to be programmed to the fixture and they can't work in other stores if they aren't programmed to the fixture before they are armed

[nosatisfaction]

Do you know if R50 round tag could be removed with standard detacher ?

I did a research on this tag and it says "three balls clutch"..What does this thing mean :S ?

[muhaddib]

Anyone needing EAS hooks PM me.

[Matokira]

On the first page, the homemade S3 key is covered in something. Does anyone know what that is?

[skygear]

black tape or tool dip

[Derision]

Originally Posted by Matokira

On the first page, the homemade S3 key is covered in something. Does anyone know what that is?

electrical tape

[Morticia]

Has any left-handed person managed to use a vini hook?

My friend is left handed and hasn't been able to use it, even after looking at the tutorial. I told her to open it like a right-handed person would but she couldn't.

So will it be impossible for her to use the hook, or what?

[ace]

Originally Posted by Morticia

Has any left-handed person managed to use a vini hook?

My friend is left handed and hasn't been able to use it, even after looking at the tutorial. I told her to open it like a right-handed person would but she couldn't.

So will it be impossible for her to use the hook, or what?

was your friend born yesterday? Its simple stuff

[cgregory23]

Anyone else have problems with their s3 key? I can't get mine to open shit! I've tried many keeper boxes and spider wraps and I can hear clicks inside when I'm moving it around but still can't get them to open! It seems like the magnets almost too weak... But it's a legit invue key

[Morticia]

Originally Posted by ace

was your friend born yesterday? Its simple stuff

That's what I thought initially as I even linked her to a tutorial I found but she said she bought another one off someone on Craigslist and it works just fine, but it doesn't work with the tag that came with the one she ordered online. She did try removing the tag from a jacket she bought today, though (while she was in the dressing room), and I was at the store with her and it worked just fine (as she left with the jacket in her purse lol).

Maybe it was a problem with the original hook or tag. Either way it looks like she figured it out. Thank you SOOOO MUCH for your helpful advice!

[Davidjr97]

came across knockoff s3 key on dh gate.com. does anyone have any experience buying knockoff s3 keys? i dont know if i should get it cause people say that they dont trust the quality but i dident listen to them when i bought the hook off dh gate and it works very good. it comes with the magnets and they are supposidly high quality n48 neodymium magnets.

http://www.dhgate.com/2x-eas-securit...b50227e0e.html

[randomgeezer]

Regarding the following detachers:

http://www.ffr-dsi.com/detacher-micr...ip-and-lanyard

for boxes with the following mechanisms:

http://www.ffr-dsi.com/loss-preventi...h-active-alarm

DLS or 'Fortknox' detachers. I recently tried to open one with 2 x N52 magnets (the ones that I use for the alpha S3 keys) and no dice. So I arranged 4 of the same magnets in an arrangement like what you get on the actual detacher. After testing it yesterday I'm glad to say it worked!

However, the boxes I tried it on were not the exact same boxes that it I failed with last time. They look the same but it's possible that they are an older version requiring weaker magnets perhaps? So a 2nd test on the same boxes I failed with last time is is order. I'll do this tomorrow I think. Preliminary results are positive however.

[randomgeezer]

A ferret came around to my treehouse today to let me take a picture of his 'tool'. One side for the alpha products:



the other for the DLS stuff:

[serialaki]

If anyone wants to try knock off tools they can be purchased from Aliexpress.com. The website is known for allowing shady vendors, but they also have legit ones too. There are seller ratings on the right hand side.

Anyways, the stuff on there is really cheap. Sensormatic hooks can be found for $4, Superloc's (search gold detacher or EAS detacher) for about $30 (weaker ones for a lot less) and Alpha s3 keys for around $10.

[randomgeezer]

So I was just wondering how much one of those 'base stations' would cost - the ones they have on the counter at shops? They've got an Alpha key, a fortknox (DLS) detacher, a superloc detacher as well as 2 other types of magnetic detacher that must be used for something but I don't know what!

They look like this:



What do we reckon folks?

[catsbitemyface]

Definitely a penis detacher. Haven't seen that in ages.

[BennyProfane]

I have a question about the supertag magnets.

My friend went to get some jeans, and he found one he wanted, and took it into the dressing room.

He had some neodymium magnets put together because he thought it was a supertag 1. Well at first it didn't work. It sounded like the magnet was moving something around in the tag, so he kept trying, and with some force (rotating the pin like he was "unscrewing" it seemed to help, strangely enough, though that could just be in his head), actually a lot of force, he was able to get it off little by little. He didn't know much about the tags so he didn't notice if there was a hole for a hook in this tag.

His question is: since he was able to get it, does that mean it WAS a supertag 1? He's sure it was one of the supertags. It took a lot of force, BUT he thinks he didn't have quite enough magnets (only 6 fairly small cubes put together, and he might not have gotten the polarity right). Or was he just forcing a supertag 2/3? Is it possible to force them apart with your bare hands?

[upinsmoke]

Since a certain company shafted my friend on payday and left her without a paycheck ,my friend went shopping and has done quiet well,

the shops she likes to buy at have two whole aisles that are quiet so she doesn't feel harassed

shopping is fun

[Captain Blood]

I probably missed it but can these be removed with a S3 Key?

[upinsmoke]

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

I probably missed it but can these be removed with a S3 Key?

No, they are the new sensormatic tags

[Shittyflowers]

If I get a Superloc detacher, do I need a neodymium magnet?

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Shittyflowers

If I get a Superloc detacher, do I need a neodymium magnet?

It depends. The Superloc is hard to conceal if you've got small hands, but if you're only detaching tags in the dressing room, it doesn't really matter that much. A magnet might work better if you were trying to detach tags on the sales floor.