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Question Dissolving an OxyContin OP in alcohol?

A few weeks back a friend of mine gave me an OC 40 in exchange for a few benzos because he gets them for next to nothing. It had the OP imprint, obviously, and I've never dealt with those fuckers before.

Anyways, I chopped the thing in half using a surgical-steel knife and threw the two halves into a vial with 50 ml of Bacardi 151.

It's been in there for 2 weeks now; I have it here in front of me. Everything has dissolved and there is nothing solid in the vial.

My question is this: did I successfully defeat the anti-abuse mechanism? I don't have any opiate/opiod tolerance, and 40 mg orally is enough to make me feel very nice. I'm obviously aware of the "be careful mixing alcohol and opiods" thing, but I'm not really worried considering it's less than 2 oz of 151.

Any help is much appreciated.
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2 weeks??
I put an 80mg OP oxy in a 50/50 solution of coca cola and lemon juice
OVERNIGHT and it broke the time seal perfectly.....
I just drank half the formulation and i was fucking FLOORED!!

That 151 is gonna crossfade you like a son of a bitch.

Next time try the lemon juice, that way your oxy wont be tainted with a poor mans drug like booze....yuck....
I suspect it will hit damn near instantly tho...
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Next time try the lemon juice, that way your oxy wont be tainted with a poor mans drug like booze....yuck....
I suspect it will hit damn near instantly tho...
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Thanks for the input. Part of the reason why it's been in there for 2 weeks is because I actually forgot that I still had it.

I enjoy the taste of alcohol, so there's not really any "yuck" factor for me. I also have a bit of a tolerance, which is the main reason why I'm not worried about 2 shots of 151 interacting with the high that much.
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"Timeseal " lol. I don't think charles manson had much knowledge on it and took a shot in the dark based on the logic that something acidic will extract the active oxycodone out over night. If you create the same conditions as a stomach obviously they are going to be acidic, so that would give you some idea.

I was thinking that you could probably just put it in slightly acidic water over night or for a few days instead of coca cola that is going to go flat.

Coca cola itself is acidic. Unless I am mistaken the oxycodone is still soluble in water in the ops.
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"Timeseal " lol. I don't think charles manson had much knowledge on it and took a shot in the dark based on the logic that something acidic will extract the active oxycodone out over night. If you create the same conditions as a stomach obviously they are going to be acidic, so that would give you some idea.

I was thinking that you could probably just put it in slightly acidic water over night or for a few days instead of coca cola that is going to go flat.

Coca cola itself is acidic. Unless I am mistaken the oxycodone is still soluble in water in the ops.
Big deal. I took an educated guess and it delivered.

Kinda funny how you try to clown me, but then come up with nothing better than what i said, and why does it matter if it goes flat??
I think the carbonation helps eat thru the pill/.....

sounds dumb,. i know but i tried the same experiment a few days leater with just lemon juice and it didnt work half as well....
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Big deal. I took an educated guess and it delivered.

Kinda funny how you try to clown me, but then come up with nothing better than what i said, and why does it matter if it goes flat??
I think the carbonation helps eat thru the pill/.....

sounds dumb,. i know but i tried the same experiment a few days leater with just lemon juice and it didnt work half as well....
I am not trying to clown you and I was pointing out your logic behind it, well maybe I am giving you to much credit.

Since coca cola is acidic carbonated water with caffeine(kola nut extract),coca extract,sugar in it, you may as well just use acidic water.

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I am not trying to clown you and I was pointing out your logic behind it, well maybe I am giving you to much credit.

Since coca cola is acidic carbonated water with caffeine(kola nut extract),coca extract,sugar in it, you may as well just use acidic water.
well if the carbonation actually did help, acidic, carbonated water
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You would've been alright just chomping it up into as many tiny pieces as possible with your mouth; especially with no tolerance.

My guess is it'll work though; have fun.
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Well I'll be pounding back whatever the fuck is in that tomorrow because I was in a "benzos and booze" mood tonight and didn't want to tarnish a good opiod high. I'll report back with my results, in case anyone is considering/has wondered about a similar "extraction" method.

Since I can't see anything solid floating around in the solution, as I mentioned earlier, I'm pretty much convinced now that everything has properly dissolved. A few days after I first threw the pill halves into the 151, I noticed that either all or at least most of the coating came off, because I can see through a regular bottle of 151 and with this tincture I couldn't, likely due to the dyes/fillers in the pill.

So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and pound that shit in the morning, because I don't have shit to do, I'm basically "snowed in" to my house right now, and I'd gauge my "experience report" on nothing aside from the oxycodone and a slight alcohol potentiation; my usual daily intake of Adderall, Klonopin, and Xanax will be halted until I complete this "experiment".

I'm thinking I'll drink half the shit (~20 mg), then wait for a bit and see if I can distinguish any effects; since I don't have a tolerance, 20 mg of oral oxycodone is enough for me to get a pretty good buzz going-- assuming I HAVE defeated the "super" anti-abuse system that Purdue has fucked their cash cow in the ass with.

This reminds me of that shit that went down with Shire; "Hey guys, let's sell our patent to Adderall and focus on Vyvanse instead, it's clearly superior in every way!" Feel free to take a guess at how well that went over for them...
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190proof could work, peg300 is ideal (Polyethylene glycol)
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Well I'll be pounding back whatever the fuck is in that tomorrow. I'll report back with my results, in case anyone is considering/has wondered about a similar "extraction" method.
Well what happened?
Im interested as shit to know!
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well if the carbonation actually did help, acidic, carbonated water
Why would carbonation help?
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Well what happened?
Im interested as shit to know!
Dumped the stuff in some Dr. Pepper, stirred it a bit and downed it about 40 minutes ago...feeling pretty good right now. It definitely broke through the anti-abuse mechanism, because I know well what 40 mg of oxy feels like to me. Have a bit more nausea than usual, but I figure that's from the 2 oz of 151, as well as the fact that I took it on an empty stomach.

All in all though, it worked out just fine.
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Dumped the stuff in some Dr. Pepper, stirred it a bit and downed it about 40 minutes ago...feeling pretty good right now. It definitely broke through the anti-abuse mechanism, because I know well what 40 mg of oxy feels like to me. Have a bit more nausea than usual, but I figure that's from the 2 oz of 151, as well as the fact that I took it on an empty stomach.

All in all though, it worked out just fine.
Nice, nice

and yeah dude thats quite a bit of rum to mix with pills hahaaa....
i gotta try this....with just one shot and a 60mg probably....

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Why would carbonation help?
i dont know maybe keep the shit stimluated a little bit, until it all bubbles off.....seems better than just having it sit...and like i said i tried the same thing with just lemon juice and it didnt seem to work the same....
i guess i gotta try once more, except with FLAT cola....
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Its not the carbonation iin coca cola its the phosphoric acid. Cola has a ph of 2.5......which is extremly acidic. If u put a metal nail in a cup of cola the shit will dissolve in a couple days. That's how powerful of an acid it is
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If u put a metal nail in a cup of cola the shit will dissolve in a couple days.
Coca-Cola is acidic, but it won't dissolve metal. I don't think Coke itself has a pH of 2.5, although one of its ingredients apparently does.
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Coca-Cola is acidic, but it won't dissolve metal. I don't think Coke itself has a pH of 2.5, although one of its ingredients apparently does.
It will dissolve metal maybe not that quickly but I did aan experiment with it in my like 7th grade chemistry class. Im positive I've witnessed it happenn
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And a quick google search will show its ph is between 2.5 and 2.8
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And a quick google search will show its ph is between 2.5 and 2.8
I stand corrected. But not about the nail - there's a guy, I forgot his name, who has had a tooth sitting in Coke for years and it's still there.
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Why would carbonation help?
teh bubblez

nah idk, slightly more acidic..
i just felt like posting
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Coca-Cola is acidic, but it won't dissolve metal. I don't think Coke itself has a pH of 2.5, although one of its ingredients apparently does.
why do they use metal cans?
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I stand corrected. But not about the nail - there's a guy, I forgot his name, who has had a tooth sitting in Coke for years and it's still there.
lol with all the BS they add it's probably preserved
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What I think he meant is if you put dirty gunky metal into coke it will strip that shit off and make it look shinier. "strips" metal.

Aluminum itself is pretty corrosion resistant.
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like I said above, if this does destroy the gel mechanism peg is safe to iv coke would not be ideal and alcohol will burn like hell.
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alcohol will burn like hell.
not even

i shot vodka once, didnt even flinch
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What I think he meant is if you put dirty gunky metal into coke it will strip that shit off and make it look shinier. "strips" metal.

Aluminum itself is pretty corrosion resistant.
like when people dump it on corroded battery terminals..
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not even

i shot vodka once, didnt even flinch
then why is it if you put alcohol on a wound it hurts like hell?
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Why would carbonation help?
Adds carbonic acid in solution, on top of the phosphoric acid in there too.
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Why would carbonation help?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid
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then why is it if you put alcohol on a wound it hurts like hell?
because thats torn flesh

theres no nerve endings in your veins.
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because thats torn flesh

theres no nerve endings in your veins.
how you going to get through the skin without tearing any?
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how you going to get through the skin without tearing any?

ofcourse it hurts the tiny little dot you break through into your vein from.
fucking moron, it always stings a little when you inject.

its not like pouring alcohol in a 2inch deep gash in your leg though
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Does anyone see a reason I couldn't use magnesium citrate to acidify some water to dissolve an OP in?
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Does anyone see a reason I couldn't use magnesium citrate to acidify some water to dissolve an OP in?
I am not the most knowledgeable on the chemistry aspect but is possible that it could turn it to a citrate salt form?
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I don't think so, since it'd disassociate in solution and oxy probably couldn't displace magnesium anyway, but I'm not the most knowledgeable (yet ) either.
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Does anyone see a reason I couldn't use magnesium citrate to acidify some water to dissolve an OP in?
did you google peg and decide magnesium citrate was the closest thing you could get at store?
try it again, do 2 searches
Polyethylene glycol as solvent
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did you google peg and decide magnesium citrate was the closest thing you could get at store?
try it again, do 2 searches
Polyethylene glycol as solvent
magnesium citrate as solvent
Google peg?

Anyway, no. I have a bottle of magnesium citrate, which I take with my opioids. I also have an OP80. I was originally going to squirt some lemon juice in water and let it dissolve in there overnight, but I don't have lemon juice. I refuse to go out again this late, but I also refuse to wait another night to take my OP... thus, citrate solution + OP = profit?
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Yes, but I don't want to drink it.

Magnesium citrate may actually be basic, come to think of it. Vinegar it is, unless I can find a Coca-Cola.
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Yes, but I don't want to drink it.

Magnesium citrate may actually be basic, come to think of it. Vinegar it is, unless I can find a Coca-Cola.
Why not lemon juice?
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