The convergence of technology and capital

[DirtySanchez]

Capitalism and technology are the 2 greatest evils to ever face mankind. They are evil enough on their own but when combined they lead to a path of pure exploitation and pure destruction. Each one enables the other. I will open this thread with a part from the unabomber manifesto.

1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster
for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of
those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have
destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected
human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological
suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have
inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued
development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly
subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage
on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social
disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased
physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break
down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of
physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a
long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of
permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to
engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore,
if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is
no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from
depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

3. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very
painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the
results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had
best break down sooner rather than later.

4. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system.
This revolution may or may not make use of violence: it may be sudden
or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We
can't predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the
measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in
order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of
society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be
to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis
of the present society.

5. In this article we give attention to only some of the negative
developments that have grown out of the industrial-technological
system. Other such developments we mention only briefly or ignore
altogether. This does not mean that we regard these other developments
as unimportant. For practical reasons we have to confine our
discussion to areas that have received insufficient public attention
or in which we have something new to say. For example, since there are
well-developed environmental and wilderness movements, we have written
very little about environmental degradation or the destruction of wild
nature, even though we consider these to be highly important.

The industrial revolution is the cause of the exploitation of the worker with its sweat shops and factory's. With its idea that comfort for the bourgeois is important enough to have virtual slavery in the rest of the world. It was technology that caused the senseless mass murdering Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Any intelligent person can see that technology and capitalism are completely intertwined. These two evils say no to self reliance and say yes to exploitation.

The modern leftist who claims he is about social justice and against exploitation is a liar. No he is only about getting over his own white guilt. He gives to the nigger and to the welfare leech all because he feels guilty about his race. In fact he truly identifies with these people because of his own feeling of inferiority.

10. By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings
in the strictest sense but a whole spectrum of related traits: low
self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies,
defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend
to have such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these
feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said
about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that
he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is
pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong
to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are
hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms
"negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an
Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory
connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents
of "guy," "dude" or "fellow." The negative connotations have been
attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal
rights advocates have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and
insist on its replacement by "animal companion." Leftist
anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about
primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative.
They want to replace the word "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem
almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive
culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that
primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the
hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)

12. Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect"
terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant,
abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of
whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from
privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold
among university professors, who have secure employment with
comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual, white
males from middle-class families.

Back tot he evils of technology let us look at what became of the great civilization known as Atalantis. They were once the greatest military power in the world and they were great because their technology surpasses all others and because they had weapons of mass destruction the likes of which the world had never seen. Ask yourself why so little evidence and information exists o them? It is because through their greed and reliance on these weapons they and the world were destroyed.

This same disaster that destroyed the earth is also the reason that mars is a wasteland devoid of all life to this day. In fact our moon is a testament to this conflict. The moon was created by a nuclear war here on earth and a part of the earth broke off causing the moon to appear.

You are now probably asking what is to be done? What I propose may seem radical but it is the only way to save humanity. I propose we start over before weapons and artificial intelligence makes us slaves to the technology we so love and rely on. We as humans are meant to be a hunter gatherer people but with the industrial revolution we have become something we aren't prepared to handle. Let me ask you this. Is convenience worth your life and the very lie off humanity?

[Psynthetic]

Technology is not evil. Technology improves our lives in innumerable ways. It's the best outlet for our creativity as humans. We create machines to relieve us of tedious work, and to help us better explore the world in which we live. What's wrong with that? It's an art form, an art form with practical use. What else would we use our brains for? Do you suggest we just run around naked, fucking and killing things with sticks all day? (apparently you wouldn't, because believe it or a not, a sharpened stick is technology!)

Capitalism and the industrial revolution on the other hand... *insert long hippyish rant*

Ted Kaczynski was a genius (literally). I have read from his manifesto and his beliefs coincide with mine on many levels. I honestly respect the man. I don't so much agree with the whole killing people thing however...

Atlantis? The moon? Really? What have you bought in to? That sounds about as plausible as Christianity.

I think you need to reevaluate your belief system. Of course shit is whack, the symptoms of a decaying society are everywhere and in plain view. I wish we could 'just start over' but that's not a very original proposition and it's just not going to happen that way. We're at a stand still because the people who do get in to politics and push this agenda end up having to compromise and compromise until eventually they're not doing much good at all. As it's been said, if you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system, but the system that eventually changes you. Perhaps that's why Kacznski decided on killing people to get his message out, but that didn't work very well either now did it?

I'll leave you with this, found scribbled in a bathroom stall somewhere in the US. Pretty powerful words.

You’ve taken over my mind. You’ve raped my thoughts with your image viruses then sold me fake cures for your own disease. Your words and pictures scream orders at me like angry prison wardens. When I cover my ears, your voices echo in my head. I hate you. When I see your billboards, your talk shows, your rock concerts and your factories, when I see the work of your twisted libidos, I want to kill you. I want to set fires, plant bombs, derail trains. I want to smash your buildings and tear at your bodies until the skin of my hands is worn to the bone. I am filled with a rage that burns my eyes.

I don’t want to feel this way. You have done this to me. These feelings are the fruits of your multi-billion dollar sowing. And I am not alone. There are others like me out here. Every suicide, every madman, every man and woman who gets a gun and just starts shooting — these are your illegitimate children. They don’t all know what they are doing. All they know is hate for the invisible walls which you have raised around them, hate for the narrow path you have tried to make them walk. And the innocent pay in blood for your negligence.

Remember this: My mind is big. The more you try to push me down and make me small, the greater the pressure inside me becomes. The greater the pressure, the greater the chance of an explosion. There was once a time when I felt love, but now I feel only hate and anger, and fear at what I might do. And you can tell me to "BE HAPPY," but I know that you really mean “BE QUIET”.

Believe me, I want to be happy. You stand in my way.

Oh, and a short story by Kaczynski himself that I quite enjoyed. Link

[Rude Louis]

The viewpoints in the first post are very misleading from the title. I assumed this would be a talk about how technology and money are intermixing, such as the rise in the use of debit cards, online pay, banking, etc.

A lot of the older generation think this is a sign of the coming of the Anti-christ because of the whole mark of the beast jazz. A lot of people thought this about drivers licenses however, and social security cards, which is something that the nay-sayers today don't realize.

Slippery slope and all. . .