Herbal Incense + 2C-E?

[Charlie "Fuck AA" Sheen]

I think this could make for an awesome time for my plants, but wanted to make sure they won't get sick or hurt?

[mksnowboarder]

No idea about 2ce, specifically, but I've never had problems using it with other, similar, RCs.

mike

[idontsmokeblunt]

I assume your plants would be very happy,about as happy as if they had ingested THC while under the influence of Lysergic acid diethylamide. Not sure though.

[Gun Lover]

Just don't overdo it on the JWH. I did while on psilacetin and it turned out quite badly. 2C-E causes vasoconstriction, and like psilacetin, is a potent 5-HT_2B agonist. Repeated agonism at this site will cause heart valve problems.

Be careful with them CB full agonists, man. They're not incredibly safe like weed.

Personally, I'd eat some aspirin & melatonin (a 5-HT_2B antagonist) before hand and not go too hard on the JWH.

[Clover]

I do it from time to time. I have some skywalker herbal incense and 2C-E...great combo for my plants, they potentiate each other tremendously. Just did it 2 days ago so it's all fresh in my mind.

[Charlie "Fuck AA" Sheen]

lol thanks guys the plants are turning out wwonderfullll

turns out with the addition of 7 or 8 natural lights they turn out jUUst fine lol

[White Jesus]

Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry

I used to smoke JWH's, whichever particular one I had at the time, pretty much any time I did any psychedelic, or even stimulant, RC. I have even smoked AM-694 while tripping before, I believe.

You fearless bastrad

[kingOfCrash]

Originally Posted by Gun Lover

Just don't overdo it on the JWH. I did while on psilacetin and it turned out quite badly. 2C-E causes vasoconstriction, and like psilacetin, is a potent 5-HT_2B agonist. Repeated agonism at this site will cause heart valve problems.

Be careful with them CB full agonists, man. They're not incredibly safe like weed.

Personally, I'd eat some aspirin & melatonin (a 5-HT_2B antagonist) before hand and not go too hard on the JWH.

What do others think of the addition of aspirin and melatonin to a 2C-E dose?

[AoxomoxoA]

Wait, are you guys talking about getting high off 2ce and jwe or am I missing something? You're supposed to smoke that shit, right?

[kingOfCrash]

Originally Posted by Slag

Wait, are you guys talking about getting high off 2ce and jwe or am I missing something? You're supposed to smoke that shit, right?

Haha, just kidding. Yes. But drugs are often sold as plant food, and on other forums people often post in the "3rd person," aka SWIM, or "my cat."

[idontsmokeblunt]

Originally Posted by Slag

getting high off 2ce and jwe

You don't get high off of either of those. And if you did, you don't post about it, especially on this site.

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by idontsmokeblunt

You don't get high off of either of those. And if you did, you don't post about it, especially on this site.

Eh, take a few simple precautions, and say what you like.

Originally Posted by Gun Lover

Personally, I'd eat some aspirin & melatonin (a 5-HT_2B antagonist) before hand and not go too hard on the JWH.

Originally Posted by kingOfCrash

What do others think of the addition of aspirin and melatonin to a 2C-E dose?

This. I'd like to hear trip reports and read some scholarly articles about supporting neurochem studies.

mike

[Dr. Awkward]

How is he supposed to know about getting high, he don't smoke blunt.

I've done this combo quite a few times, it's easy for me to go overboard on both 2c-e and jwh and more so when combined, so if you react the say way start slowly. Quite fun when done right though.

[theshadowfax]

Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry

What? This isn't some site where we SWIM, and it isn't some site where we pretend JWH's are incense and psychedelic RC's are plant food. You DO get high on synthetic cannabinoids, and you DO trip on 2C-E. "...especially on this site"? What? Where the fuck did you get that impression?

He was partially right though. The only way these vendors for the RCs get by and avoid prosecution for sales of their products is by listing them as NFHC. How does it look to those interested when the same people buying from these vendors are acknowledging the RCs were sold as analogues to illegal substances instead of NFHC plant food? I mean sure it's not like the FBI is going to raid Zoklet and go knock down some doors, but it's at least a common courtesy to our local RC vendors to try our best to avoid talking publicly about doing the RCs they sell to us.

[theshadowfax]

Idk man, I've done nothing but use mine for plant food.


And fish food. That fucker's still swimming in circles.

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by theshadowfax

He was partially right though. The only way these vendors for the RCs get by and avoid prosecution for sales of their products is by listing them as NFHC. How does it look to those interested when the same people buying from these vendors are acknowledging the RCs were sold as analogues to illegal substances instead of NFHC plant food? I mean sure it's not like the FBI is going to raid Zoklet and go knock down some doors, but it's at least a common courtesy to our local RC vendors to try our best to avoid talking publicly about doing the RCs they sell to us.

It's real simple. A vendor must sell the products "not for human consumption." It's not reasonable for a court to determine that any vendor on this site is aware of every other post on this site. I'm a moderator of (one of the two) the most relevant forum, and I miss posts all the time.

We're nowhere near a state of affairs where individuals misusing RCs are being targeted by their IP addresses, their internet providers being subpoenaed, warrants being issued for searches of their homes, and their arrests.

The TP vendors have their threads heavily moderated, from what I've seen. Posts in this forum shouldn't incriminate them. As for the users, if you aren't careful enough to protect yourself online, and if the legal climate changes, it's your own fault if you get into shit.

In fact, I think I'm going to update the rules with such a statement.

mike

[Bong McPuffin]

Originally Posted by bigpoppa

I think this could make for an awesome time for my plants, but wanted to make sure they won't get sick or hurt?

It'll be interesting, thats for sure.

I'd avoid the incense though, especially the more sketchy/schizophrenic feeling ones.

[mksnowboarder]

Rules thread updated and linked to new post involving security while discussing these topics. Please read both before posting.

mike

[Gun Lover]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

This. I'd like to hear trip reports and read some scholarly articles about supporting neurochem studies.

mike

While it isn't necessary for a healhty individual to take precautions for the occasional dose of a 5-HT_2B agonist, those listed precautions are what I would personally recommend after having suffered valve damage as the result of lotsa 2B agonism combined with a -122 overdose.

N-Acetyl-5-Methoxytryptamine is not only a good sleep aid, but it happens to be a potent 2B antagonist.

My recommendations are only really necessary if you are predisposed to or have cardiovascular issues.

Maybe when I'm less drunk/care more, I'll dredge up the studies.

[skygear]

Just dont smoke the 2c-e... I hear its highly toxic that way

[kingOfCrash]

Originally Posted by Gun Lover

While it isn't necessary for a healhty individual to take precautions for the occasional dose of a 5-HT_2B agonist, those listed precautions are what I would personally recommend after having suffered valve damage as the result of lotsa 2B agonism combined with a -122 overdose.

N-Acetyl-5-Methoxytryptamine is not only a good sleep aid, but it happens to be a potent 2B antagonist.

My recommendations are only really necessary if you are predisposed to or have cardiovascular issues.

Maybe when I'm less drunk/care more, I'll dredge up the studies.

This is me. Mephedrone and JWH-018 have left me with a floppy valve.

So, I'll obviously take some aspirin (as I always would with mephedrone). But, will the melatonin affect the 2C-E high?

I also am a fan of nootropics, I figure I should abstain on the day of the trip as well? Currently, all I use as far as nootropics go is http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=188

[Gun Lover]

Originally Posted by kingOfCrash

But, will the melatonin affect the 2C-E high?

Might make you mildly drowsy, but that's it. It won't affect the visual/emotional aspects of the trip. Totally worth it to save yer valves, IMO. 5-10mg should help negate some problems.

I also am a fan of nootropics, I figure I should abstain on the day of the trip as well? Currently, all I use as far as nootropics go is http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=188

I'd abstain, but I personally haven't studied all the chemicals in that concoction to tell you something definitive.

[mksnowboarder]

I tried, but a quick google search did not yield unto me the taurine contents of common energy drinks. That is solely what concerns me in your nootropic stack. IIRC, taurine has stimulant effects, and thus, it should be treated with caution in any combination, particularly a combination involving another stimulant or one involving a psychedelic RC; both situations present the possibility (maybe even likelihood) of a negative experience resulting from an undesired interaction.

mike