synchronized bullshit

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

The irony is too much for my little hippy, non-conformist, fascist, communist, left wing, right wing, christian, ummm, what else...oh, dumb nigger faggot, brain to handle.

That's not irony you can't handle, it's the cognitive dissonance.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Vizier

I do not have the intellectual capability to form a well thought out response, so I resort to thoughtless internet memes to express my hatred towards those that I don't understand.

Oh come on now, I'm sure you can think of something better.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

The irony is too much for my little hippy, non-conformist, fascist, communist, left wing, right wing, christian, ummm, what else...oh, dumb nigger faggot, brain to handle.

That's what I was thinking the whole time I was reading this little back and forth, lol.

Seriously, why don't you just start fitting in already, d00d? Its the right thing to do.

[Vizier]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

Oh come on now, I'm sure you can think of something better.

Sure, I don't want to.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Spacecase

Seriously, why don't you just start fitting in already, d00d? Its the right thing to do.

Emptiness fits everywhere

[Om Namah Shivaya]

I'm sure you can think of something better.

Originally Posted by Vizier

Sure, I don't want to.

no surprise there.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

Oh come on now, I'm sure you can think of something better.

You can't though, which is why you're being forced to disengage from the argument through rhetoric and bringing it down to a personal level.

You've been confronted with the evidence that your emotionally-serving beliefs are bullshit, and having been forced to consider them, you're finding it increasingly hard to hack it. Cognitive dissonance.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

No, it's just a waste of time for me to try to hold a conversation with someone who only wants to talk, and never listen.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Spacecase

That's what I was thinking the whole time I was reading this little back and forth, lol.

Seriously, why don't you just start fitting in already, d00d? Its the right thing to do.

Only of course, that's not what this is about at all.

That's merely another tactic to hold on to your silly beliefs. If you can convince yourself that the other side is somehow small-minded, then you can justify ignoring the argument; an ignorance you have an emotional need for, because accepting that your beliefs are baseless is not something your brain can tolerate.

It won't work though, I've got your number.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

No, it's just a waste of time for me to try to hold a conversation with someone who only wants to talk, and never listen.

Haven't we seen this somewhere before? Oh yes, previously dealt with.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

The reason you won't give any, is because you don't have any. Of course you cannot admit that, so you attempt to cloud the reason why you aren't offering any answers, just a flimsy rhetorical cover "you don't REALLY want it, so why should I give it to you?". How convenient, eh?

If you're going to successfully justify yourself shutting away from the argument which has came dangerously to shattering those beliefs you can't bear to lose, you're going to have to do better than that.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

Only of course, that's not what this is about at all.

That's merely another tactic to hold on to your silly beliefs. If you can convince yourself that the other side is somehow small-minded, then you can justify ignoring the argument; an ignorance you have an emotional need for, because accepting that your beliefs are baseless is not something your brain can tolerate.

It won't work though, I've got your number.

But WAIT!

...Are you saying that consciousness is magic in its purest form?
...That arguing semantics over something which is already absolute is senseless?
...That you taking a few little representative pixels of shapes we make with our lips and teeth while expelling air and vibrating the insides of our chests can really convince somebody that what they have experienced to be true is false simply because you haven't?

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Spacecase

But WAIT!

...Are you saying that consciousness is magic in its purest form?
...That arguing semantics over something which is already absolute is senseless?
...That you taking a few little representative pixels of shapes we make with our lips and teeth while expelling air and vibrating the insides of our chests can really convince somebody that simply because what they have experienced to be true is false because you haven't?

No, you know what I'm saying.
You can't hide behind nonsensical or irrelevant questions.

Including your argument as a foregone conclusion within a new question, a classic tactic. Not going to fly here though.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

No, you know what I'm saying.
You can't hide behind nonsensical or irrelevant questions.

Including your argument as a foregone conclusion within a new question, a classic tactic. Not going to fly here though.

Yeah, I'm the one who's hiding.

I'm not trying to prove anything bro, other than there's nothing to prove.

[Former_Member]

In fairness, you're not hiding (om nah is though). You're denying observable truths and rational conclusions in plan sight.

I didn't say you're trying to prove anything though, though you are trying to force us to accept the validity of om nah's 'truths'. I like your previous quote about him "experiencing them to be true" whereas I haven't. That's all that needs to be said really, isn't it?

There's no reason to believe these things at all. It's just a funny feeling he got (the emotional-driven conclusions I've been talking about), and has became so attached to he refuses to accept it, and tries to pretend without reason that his little funny feeling is as valid for discerning truths as the scientific method.

Yeah dude, fuck science. The great big sphere of rock known as the earth is definitely concious, I know because I feel it. My view is better than yours because I mix religion and science so that I can justify to myself by fabricated and baseless conception of the world. It mixes the two, so it MUST be more complete.

[Former_Member]

lol, this thread was originally about synchronised motor-cycling. ahahaha.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

Yeah dude, fuck science.

I've never said this. I've claimed that our current science is incomplete. I never said it's not useful.

The great big sphere of rock known as the earth

Yep, ignore all of the other components that make up the earth.

Also, you seem to have casually avoided one of my questions in my previous post, so I'll say it again.

What is biological matter?

is definitely concious, I know because I feel it.

Every single thing that you are experiencing is just your brain "feeling around". Even sight. Light is being "felt" by your brain and interpreting it into an image inside of your skull. So the next time you observe a scientific experiment, say "I feel it", not "I see it".

My view is better than yours because I mix religion and science so that I can justify to myself by fabricated and baseless conception of the world. It mixes the two, so it MUST be more complete.

Still stuck on duality, I see.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

In fairness, you're not hiding (om nah is though). You're denying observable truths and rational conclusions in plan sight.

Where is he "hiding"? And where did I deny anything?

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

I didn't say you're trying to prove anything though, though you are trying to force us to accept the validity of om nah's 'truths'. I like your previous quote about him "experiencing them to be true" whereas I haven't. That's all that needs to be said really, isn't it?

Sure is. Its all in your head, whatever you want it to be.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

There's no reason to believe these things at all. It's just a funny feeling he got (the emotional-driven conclusions I've been talking about), and has became so attached to he refuses to accept it, and tries to pretend without reason that his little funny feeling is as valid for discerning truths as the scientific method.

Well then don't bite? It sounds like you are the one with the problem, not him. In fact, he seems much more content than the rest of us, so he must be doing something right. Whatever that means. Isn't that the true goal, ultimately? Happiness? In fact, call me crazy, but in a really funny way, it sure looks to me like he is trying to spread his happiness, but is just getting a little frustrated with the lack of effort to actually understand, rather than instantly attempt to disprove . . .

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

Yeah dude, fuck science. The great big sphere of rock known as the earth is definitely concious, I know because I feel it. My view is better than yours because I mix religion and science so that I can justify to myself by fabricated and baseless conception of the world. It mixes the two, so it MUST be more complete.

Eek. I'm sorry that's how you feel, that must suck. But I don't really have a view, anyways, I just know my shit.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

lol, this thread was originally about synchronised motor-cycling. ahahaha.

Lol, fuck it! Its all synchronized already anyways.

[Former_Member]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)

Yeah, everything is a sensation in the brain, well done. Doesn't mean everything is of equal value. Things proven through experimentation to be true with a wealth of justifiable, logical theory behind it are a lot more sound than "I just sort of felt it, you know?".

I wonder how much you truly believe this, and how much is just for show (a show for yourself too) because you're scared of a world in which you have to drop all this bullshit.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)

Are you saying that in order for something to be conscious, it has to have human/animal skin cells? What a limited way of thinking.

Doesn't mean everything is of equal value.

Did I ever say this? I can't remember ever saying that "everything is of equal value". In fact, I don't even know what the fuck you mean. Equal value of WHAT?

"I just sort of felt it, you know?".

But we just established that everything is just a form of feeling

I wonder how much you truly believe this, and how much is just for show (a show for yourself too) because you're scared of a world in which you have to drop all this bullshit.

Right back atcha.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)

Yeah, everything is a sensation in the brain, well done. Doesn't mean everything is of equal value. Things proven through experimentation to be true with a wealth of justifiable, logical theory behind it are a lot more sound than "I just sort of felt it, you know?".

I wonder how much you truly believe this, and how much is just for show (a show for yourself too) because you're scared of a world in which you have to drop all this bullshit.

Why is it that most things said in an argument can almost always go both ways? Sketches me right out, sometimes.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

See, you like to stay in your little box and never try to escape.

I like to think outside the box. In fact, I've done this just enough, that I've actually stepped outside of the box itself. And I realized that I'm in a factory full of boxes, and now I'm looking for the exit so I can be outside the factory.

Oh, and this is just a metaphore by the way.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Spacecase

Where is he "hiding"? And where did I deny anything?

Sure is. Its all in your head, whatever you want it to be.

Well then don't bite? It sounds like you are the one with the problem, not him. In fact, he seems much more content than the rest of us, so he must be doing something right. Whatever that means. Isn't that the true goal, ultimately? Happiness? In fact, call me crazy, but in a really funny way, it sure looks to me like he is trying to spread his happiness, but is just getting a little frustrated with the lack of effort to actually understand, rather than instantly attempt to disprove . . .

Eek. I'm sorry that's how you feel, that must suck. But I don't really have a view, anyways, I just know my shit.

So now what? You're admitting that it's all bollocks, but it's okay because it makes him happy personally? I have no problem with that, until he starts pretending it is truth. I'm not convinced he's happy either, in fact, I very much doubt he is.

An important requisite for true happiness is being able to be confident in the integrity of what you believe. He couldn't possibly be that, unless he was literally delusional, and I don't think he is. I think he's just emotionally driven to defend the dogma he's got himself stuck to. Plus, the dissemination of his dogma is liable to make other people unhappy, as it will erode verifiable truth and replace it with fairy tale shit that means we as a species or unequip to help people and understand our problems.

The world isn't perfect, but I can be happy because I know I'm making a positive impact and have intellectual integrity. Can he say the same thing, when for his own short-term gain he irresponsibility sticks to bullshit derived from a wishy-washy feeling, and spreads lies as truths to vulnerable ears? The proof that it can have an effect is evident, the new-age movement as a whole is an indicator of that mass-hysteria.

I don't like it, and I don't like you. You're both bad people who are wallowing around in indefensible lies and using cheap tricks to fool yourself into thinking those lies are valid. You're lying to yourselves, and you're hypocrites because you use the idea of 'sheep' to rally against those who oppose you, while sheepishly following unconvincing ideas and imagination-borne explanations yourselves.

I am happy, I am mentally free, I have maintained my intellectual integrity. You've sold yourself out to make believe crap for some short term emotional support. If you ever want to advance yourself, you have to have the courage to abandon the bullshit that you cling to in order to give meaning to the world.

Have the courage to think, don't be so lazy and fearful as to accept the things that gel best with your emotional leanings and imaginary fantasies.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

See, you like to stay in your little box and never try to escape.

I like to think outside the box. In fact, I've done this just enough, that I've actually stepped outside of the box itself. And I realized that I'm in a factory full of boxes, and now I'm looking for the exit so I can be outside the factory.

Oh, and this is just a metaphore by the way.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

See, you like to stay in your little box and never try to escape.

I like to think outside the box. In fact, I've done this just enough, that I've actually stepped outside of the box itself. And I realized that I'm in a factory full of boxes, and now I'm looking for the exit so I can be outside the factory.

Oh, and this is just a metaphore by the way.

You're only thinking outside the box if you define the box as rational thought and reasoned argument. You're desperate to not be everybody else, so you invent a make-believe world.

You can be a happy, independent person without selling yourself out to pseudo-science. You just need the courage to do so. Your whole world is a self-sustaining justification for never having to find this courage, and staying trapped within a world of nonsense which justifies itself.

You are lost, and only become all the more lost as you pretentiously try to argue that you're in control of it all. You're a slave to your own fears.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

I am mentally free

[Former_Member]

I'm going to bed. When you settle down to sleep, have a think about what the courage needed to overcome this baseless belief system that your emotionality won't let you abandon. Perhaps you'll find it within yourselves, perhaps you won't.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

You're a slave to your own fears.

It's like you're talking into a mirror at this point.

[Former_Member]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

It's like you're talking into a mirror at this point.

lol, no it's not. but saying it really helps you ignore the advice though huh?
you really do have a very strong drive to be in denial, if I was yoda, I'd say something like "the cognitive dissonance is strong in this one".

anyway, it's up to you to try and help yourself or not. I'm going to bed, disengaging from this and having a pleasant sleep. g'night.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

So now what? You're admitting that it's all bollocks, but it's okay because it makes him happy personally? I have no problem with that, until he starts pretending it is truth. I'm not convinced he's happy either, in fact, I very much doubt he is.

- I never said it was bollocks, lol. You said that.
- You have a problem with people expressing what they know is true? Isn't that exactly what you think you are doing?
- Oh, he is happy.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

An important requisite for true happiness is being able to be confident in the integrity of what you believe. He couldn't possibly be that, unless he was literally delusional, and I don't think he is. I think he's just emotionally driven to defend the dogma he's got himself stuck to. Plus, the dissemination of his dogma is liable to make other people unhappy, as it will erode verifiable truth and replace it with fairy tale shit that means we as a species or unequip to help people and understand our problems.

- Stop talking to yourself. Its actually scaring the shit out of me.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

The world isn't perfect, but I can be happy because I know I'm making a positive impact and have intellectual integrity. Can he say the same thing, when for his own short-term gain he irresponsibility sticks to bullshit derived from a wishy-washy feeling, and spreads lies as truths to vulnerable ears? The proof that it can have an effect is evident, the new-age movement as a whole is an indicator of that mass-hysteria.

- The world is perfect, perfectly what it is. Honestly.
- Don't you see that you are the one causing the friction?
- Intellectual integrity, in other words, believing only what is acceptable by science. Because the entire world and cosmos and collective subconscious is all science.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

I don't like it, and I don't like you. You're both bad people who are wallowing around in indefensible lies and using cheap tricks to fool yourself into thinking those lies are valid. You're lying to yourselves, and you're hypocrites because you use the idea of 'sheep' to rally against those who oppose you, while sheepishly following unconvincing ideas and imagination-borne explanations yourselves.

That hurts, man. You've convinced yourself that we are saying what you don't want to hear, so naturally, you don't. We aren't so different, you and I, except for the fact that you don't accept anything other than facts. Which is okay throughout the morning of life, when you're still experiencing those growing pains and such, but one day, maybe soon, you might see that nothing can be proven absolutely, and to base an entire life and method of living off of seeking tangible absolution is a waste of time from the very start - because reality isn't set in stone, no matter what anybody does or thinks about it.

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

I am happy, I am mentally free, I have maintained my intellectual integrity. You've sold yourself out to make believe crap for some short term emotional support. If you ever want to advance yourself, you have to have the courage to abandon the bullshit that you cling to in order to give meaning to the world.

I wish you could see that we've all been there before, too. Its your classic double-blind experiment, as far as eyes reading this goes. One of us is more real than the other though, I can say that for sure. Which one?

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

Have the courage to think, don't be so lazy and fearful as to accept the things that gel best with your emotional leanings and imaginary fantasies.

Alrighty. I'll start to think about things then, and not just accept what I've been told to my entire life like a fucking drone.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

lol, no it's not. but saying it really helps you ignore the advice though huh?
you really do have a very strong drive to be in denial, if I was yoda, I'd say something like "the cognitive dissonance is strong in this one".

anyway, it's up to you to try and help yourself or not. I'm going to bed, disengaging from this and having a pleasant sleep. g'night.

Night bro.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by Ryan1711

g'night.

hope you have a lucid dream. them shits are amazing

[OhShit]

Originally Posted by Om Namah Shivaya

hope you have a lucid dream. them shits are amazing

Nope, he needs pot and LSD for that.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by OhShit

Nope, he needs pot and LSD for that.

Are you serious?

[constantinople]

Dark and psychadelicly lost hippies.

[threat]

Think this is bad? At least they probably have a choice to try out or not. Check out north koreas synchronized shit.

[constantinople]

So...I guess like....you're one hundred percent against cooperation to achieve a desired goal as well? what is really the issue here? not only was what they did cool, it was also extremely fucking difficult. not as difficult as a marching band maybe. but still pretty hard. I give them mad props.

YouTube - FAMU Band Marching 100 Drill THRILLER Atlanta Classic 2009

YouTube - FAMU Band Marching 100 Drill THRILLER Atlanta Classic 2009
Video: click to display

YouTube - Texas A&M Halftime Full Band Performance Vs. OU

YouTube - Texas A&M Halftime Full Band Performance Vs. OU
Video: click to display

^classic shit. some of the hardest manuevers you can do iirc

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by threat

Think this is bad? At least they probably have a choice to try out or not. Check out north koreas synchronized shit.

"oh man it's so bad. they have options. it's one step away from viscious fascist rule by a murderous nuclear weapon toting maniac"






THEY ARE IN FUCKING JAPAN.

[threat]

What? I know they're in japan you fuck.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by threat

What? I know they're in japan you fuck.

You're comparing a free, democratic nation with North Korea in order to prove how bad that nation is. How stupid are you?