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Old 06-24-2011, 06:27 PM
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So, I have this crazy job, and I got a script for [vyvanse initially, now adderall xr] so I could work the shifts without shooting myself\coworkers.

Of course, when said co-workers found out about this I had a brand new customer base.

Only problem? I really like these adderall XRs when taken as prescribed. They last all fucking day and I don't have any peaks\valleys. They completely abolish my ADHD-PI and also make me tired at the end of the day so that insomnia isn't a problem. Plus my insurance sucks so they're not cheap.

So what did I do? Well, when I noticed the demand, I looked into how cheaply I could manage to replicate adderall without encroaching on my stash.

Results?

At first I tried selling 20mg capsules of 4-FA, $4 a piece. My co-workers seemed to like them, but I found they sometimes took too long to come on, or they had almost 'stoning' side effects at times.

Next I added 5mg MDPV to the capsules. BAM. Now we're cooking with gas. 4-FA's serotonergic and gentle nature eliminate all the sketchyness from MDPV, which adds in the dopaminergic 'focus\drive' component that 4-fa can feel lacking in.

Kept the price at $4 a cap, but instead of empty caps, I just bought a 200-count bottle of TwinLab 400mg Magnesium Oxide caps, and for each one I dumped a small amount of MgO out, and threw in 20mg of 4-FA and 5mg MDPV. That magnesium oxide has two purposes:

A) The customer sees that they are getting a full capsule (which looks a lot better), rather than an empty one with 25mg of a mystery substance.

B) Magnesium is an NMDA antagonist, and as such attenuates stimulant side-effects. It also enhances amphetamine's absorption from the stomach and extends half-life by basifying the GI tract.

If I had gotten into this during my college days instead of pushing molly, I probably wouldn't have gone to jail and would have made MORE money, since every fucking college kid is constantly in a state of severe adderall deficit.

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4g 4-FA: $75
1g MDPV: $20
MgO caps: $7

Grand Total Cost: $102.00

Now do a little sifting...

You now have 200 "30mg Adderall IR" capsules, which will sell fine at $4 a pop.

200 * $4 = $800.00 Total Sales

$800 - $102 = $698.00 Net Profit

Getting to keep your script, and having your coworkers pay for you to experiment on them? Priceless.

There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's research chemicals.
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Thanks because that's pretty interesting. I would probably never try it myself, but it's interesting all the same.
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If you want to improve your guide how about a little definition of each chemical mentioned. I dont' want to google MDPV and FA
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Not a bad idea, maybe even double up the MDPV dose, still MAD profits bro.
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There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's research chemicals.
At first I wasn't going to thank. Then I saw this. lulz.
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I like the idea man. I was the other way around actually, adderall, medidate, concerta, some other shit then vyvanse at the max of 70mg.
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So, wait, are you selling it as adderall? That's fucked up. No one that I know would buy "adderall" if it wasn't in the typical adderall xr capsule. And even if you emptied out your adderall capsule and put in an RC people would know because those capsules have beads inside, not powder. I guess this works if you know a bunch of idiots though
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BTW, stateofhack gon flame you for this.
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1,3 Dimethylamylamine (aka 1,3 DMAA) is also very similar to adderall. It's in a lot of workout/dieting supplements. I currently use Jack3d as a pre-workout and about 10 minutes after I take it I get the same feeling I do from adderall, it doesn't last as long but that's most likely due to the fact it's a powder and not in a capsule.
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Are your figures legit? Are RC's that cheap?
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Are your figures legit? Are RC's that cheap?
A legit vendor I know of has those listed for what he said they are
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FYI i know a guy who got caught with like 90 adderalls and they weighed it as methamphetamine.. so just put two and two together and see why this is a bad idea.
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A legit vendor I know of has those listed for what he said they are
Wow I need to start looking into these drugs.
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Wow I need to start looking into these drugs.
I bought a gram of 4-AcO-DMT for $150. That's 20mg for $3, which I sell for $10. There is a lot of money to be made.

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So, wait, are you selling it as adderall? That's fucked up. No one that I know would buy "adderall" if it wasn't in the typical adderall xr capsule. And even if you emptied out your adderall capsule and put in an RC people would know because those capsules have beads inside, not powder. I guess this works if you know a bunch of idiots though
Yes, I do. I tell people that since I just got out of jail, I'm not comfortable carrying around branded CII substances, especially with intent to sell, so I crush up the pills and put them in vitamin capsules.



It's gotten more than one skeptic, for sure. But the thing is, they really work well, so once people try them they just assume I'm telling the truth since it feels so similar. And I market as instant release, not XR.

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1,3 Dimethylamylamine (aka 1,3 DMAA) is also very similar to adderall. It's in a lot of workout/dieting supplements. I currently use Jack3d as a pre-workout and about 10 minutes after I take it I get the same feeling I do from adderall, it doesn't last as long but that's most likely due to the fact it's a powder and not in a capsule.
I have experimented with DMAA, it has very unique effects (especially at the comedown) but it's a vasodilator[bad to mix with MDPV, although it IS a tiny dose] and there's not much in the euphoria or motivation department. =\
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op is a raging fucking faggot. i hope someone figures out your half assed scheme beats the fuck out of you and takes everything in your pockets, including your precious REAL adderall you fucking junky piece of shit
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Because research chemicals should only be used for research. Anything else is a travesty of science.
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As predicted from above: Your a fucking moron, people like you are EXACTLY the reason we can't have nice things.

Didn't you learn your lesson once from selling random chemicals ?

God damn it this place has REALLY gone to shit if you have a mod posting/advertising stuff like this.

I hope someone hands you can of fucking WOOP ASS.

I am so pissed right now i am leaving lines in between every sentence, i have no fucking idea why.
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Yes, I do. I tell people that since I just got out of jail, I'm not comfortable carrying around branded CII substances, especially with intent to sell, so I crush up the pills and put them in vitamin capsules.



It's gotten more than one skeptic, for sure. But the thing is, they really work well, so once people try them they just assume I'm telling the truth since it feels so similar. And I market as instant release, not XR.


Why?



I have experimented with DMAA, it has very unique effects (especially at the comedown) but it's a vasodilator[bad to mix with MDPV, although it IS a tiny dose] and there's not much in the euphoria or motivation department. =\
You are aware that this can only end with you getting yourself locked up for good right?
If you have to sell RCs for a living, stop passing them off as legit substances and learn how to market them properly. If you believe in your product you can stop pushing to idiots and get yourself a legit business model.

Case Study: Adralin and Adderlin
http://www.amazon.com/Labs-Adralin-N...9036542&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Adderllin-Coun...9036542&sr=8-2
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This supplement is not meant to replace any prescription drug you may have. Please use all supplements under the supervision of your doctor.

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Vitamin B3, Vitamin B12, Guarana, Bitter Orange, Yohimbe Bark Extract, Choline Dihydrogen Citrate, Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Bacopa Extract, Acetyl-L-Tyrosine, Caffeine, Dimethylaminoethanol, White Willow Bark Extract, Piperine, Vinpocetine, Huperzine

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Adderllin is a supplement that aids in weight loss, boosting energy, and mental focus. The unique blend of vitamins, extracts, herbal stimulants, and nootropic smart drugs make it powerful in facilitation of body fat loss, boosting energy, and cases of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
Those guys are making more money than you with an inferior product without fear of getting pounded up the ass in communal showers within the next few months.
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Really lame OP. If I knew you in real life I'd rob you at shotgun point.

Although I suppose these tards deserve it. I mean really. XR adderall is really the only pharmaceutical that cannot be realistically replicated. If someone sold me "adderall" as a capsule filled with powder I would laugh.

Don't they realize something is up with the lack of beads? These people you deal to must be fucking retarded...

You're still a piece of shit though, their retardation doesn't excuse your douchebaggery.
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I suppose selling some of these stimulant RCs could be profitable in regards to college students. At least a lot of the ones i know would probably be satisfied with 4-FA over Adderall. I've substituted it in order to finish assignments and had great success. However i would never try to pass it off as Adderall, that's just foolish and irresponsible.
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I still say that whatever NoWarning is doing is no worse than the majority of X dealers.

Also, a way to possibly make them XR: http://herbs.maxforum.org/2011/03/27...-ie-a-capsule/

And guys, I know everyone here at NFHC is some super elite wizard king drug boss master of the fucking universe that knows anything and everything about drugs but most people don't give a fuck and will pop what the fuck ever into their gullets.

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I still say that whatever NoWarning is doing is no worse than the majority of X dealers.
People know x has a good chance of being cut.

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The fuck is up with all the hating? I'm detecting a bit of jelly...
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Why not add some MXE in the mix for "extacy"
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People know x has a good chance of being cut.

When someone says adderall you expect fucking adderall.
lol dude its pretty obvious the people he's selling to are kinda moronic.

who would buy addies just crushed up in a gel capsule? that's so sketch...but they're doing it anyway because

A) they DGAF
B) it obviously WORKS

although I really dunno WHY NoWarning is BRAGGING about it in a public forum after he's already gotten popped once and supposedly had the feds going through all his emails, messengers, etc.
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I must say it is a bit sketch. I wouldn't dream of selling drugs, let alone imposter drugs. If I did, I'd wake up and apologize.

I would rather inform people of the substances they are buying. Especially if they might have some horrible allergic reaction.

Either way, a person always takes a chance trusting a person to give them the right chemical without testing it.

What I don't get is why N0 W4RN1NG posted this in such a irresponsible way.
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I would rather inform people of the substances they are buying. Especially if they might have some horrible allergic reaction..
lol dude, with some people you can stand there for three hours blue in the fucking face, charts & graphs and links and even performance art and they will STILL not understand a fucking word you're talking about and reduce everything to, "so it will fuck me up, yeah?"

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So true, I'd like to mention that N0 W4RN1NG has always been knowledgeable where I have been naive. I just think his post was a bit, well, incriminating.
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lol dude, with some people you can stand there for three hours blue in the fucking face, charts & graphs and links and even performance art and they will STILL not understand a fucking word you're talking about and reduce everything to, "so it will fuck me up, yeah?"
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Damn, why all the hate? You all do realize that this is an almost identical experience to 30mg orally of mixed amphetamine salts...

You act like I'm cheating people, but in reality, I give them a reliable supply for a pre-existing demand.

Understand that the people I work with won't buy "4-fluoroamphetamine", let alone "3,4 methylendioxypyrovalerone".

But prescription pills are ok.

To them, "Adderall" is a brand for a temporary boost in mood, memory, dexterity, and focus; an experience which hardly differs from the effect of my aforementioned mixture. I'm sorry to anger some of you, but I honestly don't think what I'm doing is wrong from a moral point of view...people have honestly thanked me for providing it to them!

I'm not sure if I was bragging, I'm a little proud to have figured out this simple little trick but I'm pretty sure I felt I was contributing to the forum...

And regarding all legalities: Do you honestly think that any possible federal agents reading these boards might actually be interested in an &Z mod who is selling an exotic performance aid exclusively to the same group of employees at his job at a local restaurant? Myself and most others there are on a 6-day work week schedule, so I see the same people almost every day. I know none of them are affiliated with the police, and in the restaurant industry adderall\ritalin sale is commonplace if not rampant. I've worked at 4 different restaurants including my current job, and in each kitchen I've seen adderall consumed like candy.

I'm not flooding the streets with this stuff, just offloading a couple here and there to my coworkers, who drop it alongside me when on especially crazy shifts.

Oh, and some of you need to learn to read...
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Damn, why all the hate?
Yea, the ragers never seem to articulate. I'm not taking sides here, but I think I can understand their point. At present, research chemicals offer a way for intelligent, responsible, well read people to self medicate and explore consciousness in a way that does not put them in legal peril. By selling these drugs to laymen, whatever the scale, you risk throwing it all away. Sure, small time stuff might not make national news, but you can never predict the drug war. A single grain of rice could tip this scale. Furthermore, by misrepresenting pharmaceuticals you perpetuate ignorance. You could take the time to tell these people that there are safe psychotropic drugs out there and how to use them responsibly, yet instead you leave them in the dark.

Again, not taking sides, I just think that's their perspective.
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As much as I hate adderall and would sell any I had, nobody would buy this from me because they'd expect me to sell them research chemicals mixed together as it. Because I never have adderall.
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