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Old 07-13-2011, 05:23 AM
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Derp, saw alot of idiots talk about this on Rorta, decided to share my knowledge here because im too lazy to register there. Fuck yall niggas.

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Avoid them like the plague. Full of scammers, feds and people known to the feds.
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^Yeah. The best ones are the ones that are invite only & you'll never find out about.
Yep, most are vouch/invite only but no one has ever guided me through this. I got all my vouchers and invites alone and im sure you can too. Not that hard if you really want it (unless you're a retard like Spectral who will end up in the "timewasting deers" category).

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You mean DC and Maza?

Lol

If you don't speak Russian its boring as hell.

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Closed down. Darkode doesnt allow carding to be discussed on their forums anymore (which is very weird because they discuss stuff thats so much deeper).

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Good english ones do not really exist
This Hex guy is a fucking idiot and has no clue what he's talking about.

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Just out of curiousity, does anyone know of any good Carding sites? Every reply I seem to see is something like "no, all to be avoided" or "don't bother" etc. Hex? Maybe give us a list or a few you know of?
No one will give you a list of them, but there already are public lists of those if you know where to look.

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To be honest, all newbies really need to start on the newbie forums and learn a bit about how it all works, come up with ideas and learn who to know who to trust. These forums are full of rippers but also have some verified vendors as well, but you can make some contacts and learn a lot if you put the time in.

The "good forums" are the ones you have to be vouched for to get into meaning you have to prove yourself and have something to offer to get into them. They are a much higher caliber, and have weeded out all the stupid questions and the people that rip to pay for their cvvs and logins. Alternately you pay for access, but they aren't cheap, but at that point you should;nt care much because you'll have plenty of money
Not really true, still 75% i'd say of the people on forums are either timewasters, just lurkers or dumbasses. Some people think vouchers are for friends, when it's for business and connections, hence fucking the whole definition and it's purpose.

Most verified vendors these days all sell crap, from dumps to uk logins. Half of all vendors on c.pro get their shit from Rhodes so its almost all same base. CVV's arent bad, still lots of good sites but dumps quality just went downhill for some reason (more and more people selling generated and fake decline dumps tssk tssk).

If you REALLY wanted fresh dumps then don't go to verified vendors, get your own or buy from a private source.

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Please don't bother asking me for links, the reason carders don't share forums is because you learn so much along the way, if you are spoonfed these things you won't get anywhere, and it really lowers the quality of the forums when newbies are asking things like "what is a dump" and "how do I cash out". This is the same reason no one shares methods, because they are ruined by people abusing them.
It's people like you who ruin it for others who want to learn. I'm sure plenty of people on here have more potential than you, stop acting as if vouchers and invites meant anything (even dough some people would suck dick for one).

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And also, hwo reliable are the MSR Reader/Writer/Encoders off ebay? Anyone had experience with 'em? Been thinking about potential...potential.
Fuck Ebay, get it from Alibaba or another cheap chinese one, they all work the same. 206, 605, 905 etc... ALL THE SAME.

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I don't think there has been a good Russian/English carding site since Maza, which itself was never as good as CP. Those sites were great at bringing English speaking carders together with Russians and Ukrainians. The last time that happened Pin Cashing was born.
I've never actually found CP interesting, full of skids from HF who became bitches of members there just to get invites.

Never been in Maza to tell you the truth, so can't tell you :|

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To be fair I find Kurupt quite reasonable as a community. Also Alboraaq, which is down at the moment.
Kurupt is okay. But the vendors there are all skiddy resellers. ABH is run by rippers; T3es (who personally ripped 500$ from me and alot of other people) and l0yal_boy (got caught ripping and banned, he didnt go to prison rofl).

You want proof that T3es is a ripper? Buy a WU transfer or a Bank Login off him.

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Infraud.cc too. About the same as Kurupt.

Forums are dead, thanks to all the LE/snitches, but once you get a good vendor they can share other vendors ICQs.
I don't think you see the complete picture of the game. If cc fraud was actually damaging society and the economy they would have made it harder.

And Kurupt is on a higher level than infraud for me. It's embarassing to call Infraud a good carding community

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To clarify kurupt has split into kurupt.ru and kurupt.bz. I would say that most of the original forum users have migrated to .bz
You fucking talk too much

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Don't know what's going on with Kurupt but it's split into two sites: .bz (Fortezzas) and .ru (Meggidos)
See Fortezzas post on kurupt.bz - Conflict With Megiddo!
LE compromise? Never know...
Yes Kurupt is already LE compromised.

Proof?

Well would you look at that, a BRAND NEW Admin no one has ever heard of enters the scene. Oh and that's not all, it's right after thsi incident AND the guy has no knowledge about online carding (he didnt mean using cvv's, he actually meant online carding as a whole).

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AFAIK it is a fallout caused by Meggido being lax on the security front and a shell being found. The admins had a fall out and the war is ongoing.

To be honest even if it's an invite only or russian only forum, there is no way you can be sure that LE is not around, in fact probably the opposite. If I can work myself from Bombshock to some forums whose names I am not allowed to reveal in 3 months, an experienced FBI cybercrime specialist should manage it without any problems. However I still like the atmosphere on Rorta, and the regulars on here have always been very kind.
Are you an FBI cybercrime specialist? Is she a carder? Trust me, it's harder than you think for LE to get into sites, not many go through as opposed to the exagerated numbers people often tell you. If they had that many officers working like this, im sure taking these sites down wouldn't be a problem, nor arresting most verified vendors in less than a week.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:11 AM
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90% of carding forums are scammers/idiots/bullshit, 5% are feds, and 5% are invite only and semi-decent. Either way, carding forums are not useful for their intended purpose IMO. Buying cvvs/fullz/etc. is a great way to get scammed or caught, and one can easily just get them without external help. Associating with other carders is just asking for trouble anyway. Most people get busted because their partners can't keep their mouths shut.

That said, I think you underestimate LE. But of course, we can never know how well they're actually doing, so it's all opinion as far as I'm concerned. But, there's no downside to it, so either way, be fucking paranoid online if you're dealing with this shit. And above all, don't trust anyone.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:48 PM
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The best and most successful people usually work alone. What can you expect if you hang out and deal with a bunch of other "crooks"? They don't give a fuck, they'll put you away forever if it'll be to their benefit.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
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90% of carding forums are scammers/idiots/bullshit, 5% are feds, and 5% are invite only and semi-decent. Either way, carding forums are not useful for their intended purpose IMO. Buying cvvs/fullz/etc. is a great way to get scammed or caught, and one can easily just get them without external help. Associating with other carders is just asking for trouble anyway. Most people get busted because their partners can't keep their mouths shut.

That said, I think you underestimate LE. But of course, we can never know how well they're actually doing, so it's all opinion as far as I'm concerned. But, there's no downside to it, so either way, be fucking paranoid online if you're dealing with this shit. And above all, don't trust anyone.
If you are active in carding forums, then you should have no problems spotting rippers and LE (as if LE had time for small time cvv/dump fraudsters...). Carding is very hard to do solo, almost impossible, unless you just plan on doing it yourself with no team.

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The best and most successful people usually work alone. What can you expect if you hang out and deal with a bunch of other "crooks"? They don't give a fuck, they'll put you away forever if it'll be to their benefit.
It's not like this actually, it's more about finding contacts and business partners. Whenever you request something or someone needs a partner they will post a thread about it and it is your responsibility to test the person and check if he's talking a bunch of crap or not.
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Im looking for a new site also, I took a year off. Used to use c.su but that's down now.
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Carding is very hard to do solo, almost impossible, unless you just plan on doing it yourself with no team.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:32 PM
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It's nice to see someone else on here who doesn't talk complete utter bullshit about carding. He is right, on a large scale, carding alone is time consuming and can become very annoying. Let's put it this way, without other people doing their part, it'd take a hell of a long time to find a good IIN or anything like that, it helps take the heat off you as well. Getting someone else to get a COB is a huge weight off anyone's shoulders if you're carding online. Instore carding is made a HELL OF A LOT EASIER with contacts.

It's interesting you say that about dumpz, when I was dropping out of carding there were a lot of generators going around, I never bought into the whole idea so much since I saw it being talked about on bombshock by new members a lot and knew it was bound to be shit.



I'd keep off rorta and bombshock, they're both in the same league and a lot of anarkiddies frequently visit and post on them. I don't know anyone with an IQ above 93 who stays on those websites for very long. I'm a bit out of the loop now since I've been away from the scene for a while, is RFID scanning dead now or still alive and kicking?

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Old 07-13-2011, 07:50 PM
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It's nice to see someone else on here who doesn't talk complete utter bullshit about carding. He is right, on a large scale, carding alone is time consuming and can become very annoying. Let's put it this way, without other people doing their part, it'd take a hell of a long time to find a good IIN or anything like that, it helps take the heat off you as well. Getting someone else to get a COB is a huge weight off anyone's shoulders if you're carding online. Instore carding is made a HELL OF A LOT EASIER with contacts.

It's interesting you say that about dumpz, when I was dropping out of carding there were a lot of generators going around, I never bought into the whole idea so much since I saw it being talked about on bombshock by new members a lot and knew it was bound to be shit.



I'd keep off rorta and bombshock, they're both in the same league and a lot of anarkiddies frequently visit and post on them. I don't know anyone with an IQ above 93 who stays on those websites for very long. I'm a bit out of the loop now since I've been away from the scene for a while, is RFID scanning dead now or still alive and kicking?
1. Instore carding is a fail in itself.

2. RFID scanning is easier than pickpocketing, but I don't know many people who do it. The scanners cost less than 15 bucks on ebay and if you have a laptop you can use then you are in business. It is much less of a hassle to just get the card info online in dumps or buy fullz/cvv/etc.
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Old 07-14-2011, 06:05 AM
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It's nice to see someone else on here who doesn't talk complete utter bullshit about carding. He is right, on a large scale, carding alone is time consuming and can become very annoying. Let's put it this way, without other people doing their part, it'd take a hell of a long time to find a good IIN or anything like that, it helps take the heat off you as well. Getting someone else to get a COB is a huge weight off anyone's shoulders if you're carding online. Instore carding is made a HELL OF A LOT EASIER with contacts.

It's interesting you say that about dumpz, when I was dropping out of carding there were a lot of generators going around, I never bought into the whole idea so much since I saw it being talked about on bombshock by new members a lot and knew it was bound to be shit.



I'd keep off rorta and bombshock, they're both in the same league and a lot of anarkiddies frequently visit and post on them. I don't know anyone with an IQ above 93 who stays on those websites for very long. I'm a bit out of the loop now since I've been away from the scene for a while, is RFID scanning dead now or still alive and kicking?
Yes, without contacts, good luck setting up your own stuff, here's a small list of a few things youll need:

1. Machinery (embosser/tipper/printer, since you're alone youll need automatic ones so that will run you around 8k of machinery.

2. Money for constant Holos, o wait, nvm, you dont need anyone else, so buy a holo printer for 3k or buy a card+holo one for 1k more.

3. Dumps, o wait, you wanted your own, so youll need to find a job and skim like 10 a day and en up with 7 101s to use.

O wait, you won't have time to card while you have a shitty job just to skim a few dumps

Also, about the dump generation, i'm about to spoil a big secret for all dump vendors who sell generated crap (fuck you SwitchSwitch, Mr.Wood, TrueCarder and half of all online shops):

Dump generation is actually quite simple, it consists of using the cvv to generate the dump or to figure out the algorithm this certain bank uses to encode it's t2.

Most people know about Capital One Fulls + PIN (no tracks) T2 generation, but all the bins that work for it are all dead or don't work as well as it used to. Remember that generated dumps automatically are around 50% valid rate less than non-generated ones.

Most generated dumps come from CVV, a vendor analyzes dumps that are easy to generate and he puts the cvv inside the second part of the t2 at a specific location surrounded by 0s.

A good way to tell if it's generated is to look for cvv bases that resemble the dump base and if there's ALOT of 0s then its most likely generate (like 50% of the dumps have a t2 with all zeros except 3 numbers (which is obviously the cvv or encrypted cvv).

So yeah, they *do* work, but you're better off not risking your ass with generated dumps.

And RFID scanning is not dead, but just not worth it anymore. There are better ways to get dumps nowadays (POS hacking).

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1. Instore carding is a fail in itself.

2. RFID scanning is easier than pickpocketing, but I don't know many people who do it. The scanners cost less than 15 bucks on ebay and if you have a laptop you can use then you are in business. It is much less of a hassle to just get the card info online in dumps or buy fullz/cvv/etc.
#1 explain or you're just another one of those idiots who don't know what they're talking about.

#2 Oh wait you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. RFID is for dumps, tracks, not for fullz/cvv. Lol you probably don't even know what a Fullz is. Dump neither on the same matter.
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#1 explain or you're just another one of those idiots who don't know what they're talking about.

#2 Oh wait you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. RFID is for dumps, tracks, not for fullz/cvv. Lol you probably don't even know what a Fullz is. Dump neither on the same matter.
1. Personally I would never advise anyone to do instore carding because of security cameras. Too risky.

2. Do not tell me I have no idea what I am talking about because the RFID scanner I have converts the RFID into the CVV. It's software built in the scanner. Some have it, some don't.
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1. Personally I would never advise anyone to do instore carding because of security cameras. Too risky.

2. Do not tell me I have no idea what I am talking about because the RFID scanner I have converts the RFID into the CVV. It's software built in the scanner. Some have it, some don't.
1. Lol, the least a dump cashier is worried about is the cameras, trust me. Sounds like you are in the UK, if not, then kindly fuck off.

2. Do you even know what a CVV is? The cvv is the 3 digits on the back of the card you dumbfuck. Do indented letters transmit radio frequencies? RFID skimming gives you the dump of the card.

Anyways, we dont have much rfid POS here anyways, can't really tell you more about it.

PS: I'm 95% sure i'm getting trolled Sean, well played if you were.

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LOL, dude, online carding by yourself is, if anything, easier than carding in a team. So much easier. I don't even know why you'd need a team to card online. Instore is entirely different obviously, and much easier with a team. But why card instore if you can card online? I've never committed a crime in my life of course, but carding online is soooo much easier, cheaper, safer, and quicker than carding instore.

Anyway, I know I don't have to tell you this, dog, since you seem to know your shit, but just for clarification ofr anyone else reading: CVV sometimes means the entire card - name, number, exp, security code (aka cvv or cvv2 or cvc, depending on who you talk to). It is an incorrect usage, but some people say it regardless. I'm thinking Sean meant to say that the dump is logged, and displayed as something like this:
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-------Gloria Gotcard-------
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LOL, dude, carding by yourself is, if anything, easier than carding in a team. So much easier.
Don't know, teams pull out more if you ask me. Online carding is obviously do-able by yourself dough. But you'll need to test lots of stuff to pull bank cashing and dump cashing by yourself. Most vendors leave their good dumps for their cashiers (often big teams) and sell the rest to the public.
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Don't know, teams pull out more if you ask me. Online carding is obviously do-able by yourself dough. But you'll need to test lots of stuff to pull bank cashing and dump cashing by yourself. Most vendors leave their good dumps for their cashiers (often big teams) and sell the rest to the public.
Yea, I realized you guys were talking about instore after I posted that. Instore is better with a team, as is cashing out. But yea, check my edited post.
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LOL, dude, online carding by yourself is, if anything, easier than carding in a team. So much easier. I don't even know why you'd need a team to card online. Instore is entirely different obviously, and much easier with a team. But why card instore if you can card online? I've never committed a crime in my life of course, but carding online is soooo much easier, cheaper, safer, and quicker than carding instore.

Anyway, I know I don't have to tell you this, dog, since you seem to know your shit, but just for clarification ofr anyone else reading: CVV sometimes means the entire card - name, number, exp, security code (aka cvv or cvv2 or cvc, depending on who you talk to). It is an incorrect usage, but some people say it regardless. I'm thinking Sean meant to say that the dump is logged, and displayed as something like this:
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-------Gloria Gotcard-------
-----1111222233334444----
-----01/14---------123----
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Oh really? As I have said, RFID isn't developped here yet (started dough), so I have never skimmed them myself or decided to get more info on this but I thought you could skim the t2 with it? Or t1+t2? Maybe it's decryptable or used to be.

And for the same matter... Aren't they encrypted when you skim them?

Also, i'm much more confident instore after I realized that online carding was just full of "methods" and other crap like that people trade or sell/exchange around. Exploiting loopholes.

I'm not tech savvy enough to do it. I know about basic stuff like using socks/vpn/neighbour's wifi and getting DoB/ssn for vbv/msc secure but the rest is just too much work for me lol.

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Yea, I realized you guys were talking about instore after I posted that. Instore is better with a team, as is cashing out. But yea, check my edited post.
Yes, sorry.
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And for the same matter... Aren't they encrypted when you skim them?
Tbh, I don't know. I'm just thinking that's what he meant to say. I think I read somewhere that you can get that information from the tracks, but I really can't say for sure, as I've never tried the method as it was described (and I'm sorry, I have no idea where the article went... If I find it, I'll post it). As for RFID skimming, I am absolutely clueless. I know the UK uses chip & pin, and Canada uses chips to an extent, but that's all. It does sound really interesting though.

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I'm not tech savvy enough to do it. I know about basic stuff like using socks/vpn/neighbour's wifi and getting DoB/ssn for vbv/msc secure but the rest is just too much work for me lol.
Yup, for me it's the exact opposite, so I've never carded instore. I started out in NS&H territory, specifically malware and such, so you can kinda see where I get my stances on carding I guess. As usual, I learned all this from CNN, I've never carded, don't try this at home, warranty requires registration, not good for 60 days after purchase, blah blah blah, offer void in Montana.
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Tbh, I don't know. I'm just thinking that's what he meant to say. I think I read somewhere that you can get that information from the tracks, but I really can't say for sure, as I've never tried the method as it was described (and I'm sorry, I have no idea where the article went... If I find it, I'll post it). As for RFID skimming, I am absolutely clueless. I know the UK uses chip & pin, and Canada uses chips to an extent, but that's all. It does sound really interesting though.
Nah, RFID skimming gets you the tracks of the card, here's the tut you've probably been looking for:

http://pastebin.com/y5xFAUNS


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Yup, for me it's the exact opposite, so I've never carded instore. I started out in NS&H territory, specifically malware and such, so you can kinda see where I get my stances on carding I guess. As usual, I learned all this from CNN, I've never carded, don't try this at home, warranty requires registration, not good for 60 days after purchase, blah blah blah, offer void in Montana.
Ahhh ok, so you must be pretty high in the game if you are pro at it
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Finally a thread with good info, damn it's been a minute since I seen one of these.
I'm gonna try to keep them coming. We're gonna make BI a more adult forum. Kids can still have fun and play in the Lulzy Bad Ideas subforum, but the main section is for the grown ups to talk and the kids to listen and learn.
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1. Lol, the least a dump cashier is worried about is the cameras, trust me. Sounds like you are in the UK, if not, then kindly fuck off.

2. Do you even know what a CVV is? The cvv is the 3 digits on the back of the card you dumbfuck. Do indented letters transmit radio frequencies? RFID skimming gives you the dump of the card.

Anyways, we dont have much rfid POS here anyways, can't really tell you more about it.

PS: I'm 95% sure i'm getting trolled Sean, well played if you were.
I can assure you I am not trolling.

No need to be rude, I am simply stating that instore carding seems very risky due to cameras.

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Anyway, I know I don't have to tell you this, dog, since you seem to know your shit, but just for clarification ofr anyone else reading: CVV sometimes means the entire card - name, number, exp, security code (aka cvv or cvv2 or cvc, depending on who you talk to). It is an incorrect usage, but some people say it regardless. I'm thinking Sean meant to say that the dump is logged, and displayed as something like this:
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-------Gloria Gotcard-------
-----1111222233334444----
-----01/14---------123----
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CVV is basically a term used for the card info. I know what the CVV really is. Like I said, I assume the scanner has built in software that converts the RFID magnetic strip reading into info like VOX posted. It is essentially rendered useless by easier methods of getting info online though.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:51 PM
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I can assure you I am not trolling.

No need to be rude, I am simply stating that instore carding seems very risky due to cameras.
The only place in the world where it's risky to card instore in UK and some other EU countries (some even detain you and call Visa/MC/Amex representatives to come inspect as well as LE).


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CVV is basically a term used for the card info. I know what the CVV really is. Like I said, I assume the scanner has built in software that converts the RFID magnetic strip reading into info like VOX posted. It is essentially rendered useless by easier methods of getting info online though.
Actually there are 2 kinds of card infos: CVV and Dump

CVV: Number, name, adress, zip, phone, card number, expiration, city, country and occasional dob/ssn. These are only used for online carding or shitty dump generation.

Dump: Track1 and Track 2. Has no relation to cvv except a few banks with shitty security.

I don't even think you can skim the CVV with rfid tags, only the dumps. I don't know how rfid really works but why would it send transaction as if it was online one? if anything you could only skim tracks with it.

CVV's and dumps are completely different and they are not harvested the same way either.

People get a shit load of cvv's at a time, but they need to check if the base has been hacked/sold/used before. Many people hack new bases and end up selling what another hacker hacked a week ago.

Dumps are different, I don't even know if its possible to infect a POS to send dumps online to 2 different hosts.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:13 PM
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Thanks for the info, its good that people still recognise that noobs stilla exist and ARE willing to learn and not just take and do no research.
having worked for a big shopping centre in the uk and being behing the tills, instore carding is a lot harder than you think. Lots of shops have added security cameras exactly where they can see everything,and don't forget the chip and pin,but ive served customers from various country were they dont have that and it would of been easy to take down their info! Not that I have done it tho!
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:21 PM
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The only place in the world where it's risky to card instore in UK and some other EU countries (some even detain you and call Visa/MC/Amex representatives to come inspect as well as LE).
Can you elaborate a bit more with that? How would location different when there are similar systems of security in place? (like cameras)
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:12 AM
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Can you elaborate a bit more with that? How would location different when there are similar systems of security in place? (like cameras)
I know most of Europe is already 201 only, so they will not let you pass 101 swipe-able cards (only chipped cards).

Also, UK has the most cameras and is the most dangerous place to cashout dumps and d+p. In fact, UK d+p is the most common dump+pin that is sold.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:17 AM
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I want you guys to keep things hypothetical, now that we've got a discussion of this nature underway. Be smart.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:20 AM
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I know most of Europe is already 201 only, so they will not let you pass 101 swipe-able cards (only chipped cards).

Also, UK has the most cameras and is the most dangerous place to cashout dumps and d+p. In fact, UK d+p is the most common dump+pin that is sold.
Uk is tight on alot of things not surprised at all!
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:55 AM
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The only place in the world where it's risky to card instore in UK and some other EU countries (some even detain you and call Visa/MC/Amex representatives to come inspect as well as LE).




Actually there are 2 kinds of card infos: CVV and Dump

CVV: Number, name, adress, zip, phone, card number, expiration, city, country and occasional dob/ssn. These are only used for online carding or shitty dump generation.

Dump: Track1 and Track 2. Has no relation to cvv except a few banks with shitty security.

I don't even think you can skim the CVV with rfid tags, only the dumps. I don't know how rfid really works but why would it send transaction as if it was online one? if anything you could only skim tracks with it.

CVV's and dumps are completely different and they are not harvested the same way either.

People get a shit load of cvv's at a time, but they need to check if the base has been hacked/sold/used before. Many people hack new bases and end up selling what another hacker hacked a week ago.

Dumps are different, I don't even know if its possible to infect a POS to send dumps online to 2 different hosts.
Hypothically speaking, If I know someone who has a bunch of CVV's, whats the best way to profit online? The person I know has tried buying items but if the shipping address is diff from the billing address then the website either calls the cardholders to confirm or doesn't ship unless that shipping address is confirmed on the customers cc or paypal account.

As far as my friend has thought of, Cvv's are pretty pointless, especailly in Canada, where he resides. Seems to me all you can get are services online, nothing physical or nothing online that you can sell for profit.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:18 PM
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Hypothically speaking, If I know someone who has a bunch of CVV's, whats the best way to profit online? The person I know has tried buying items but if the shipping address is diff from the billing address then the website either calls the cardholders to confirm or doesn't ship unless that shipping address is confirmed on the customers cc or paypal account.

As far as my friend has thought of, Cvv's are pretty pointless, especailly in Canada, where he resides. Seems to me all you can get are services online, nothing physical or nothing online that you can sell for profit.
Depends, if he can get more than he can use to make profit, then I suggest selling it. Get vouched on a few sites and apply for verified vendor.

If he only has a limited quantity of it, then theres stuff like topping up restaurant cards/coffee cards, topping up phone credit, finding sites that don't require same billing and shipping etc... Ordering e-cards from Sears/ToysRus and dropping items to ur own drops... lots of stuff too.
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