lets all stand infront of a massive waterfall

Frankeh · #1 07-19-2011, 06:32 AM

What could possibly go wrong?

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Blunderstar · #2 07-19-2011, 06:34 AM

Did anybody else predict the OP would say, "What could possibly go wrong?" before they clicked this thread?

The Greek · #3 07-19-2011, 06:37 AM

Darwinism. From what I can tell there were a great deal of people on the fall when the water came in, and most, more than 90%, realized hey, I should get the fuck out of here pronto. The other 5 didn't make that realization, tried to leave slowly without getting wet, and died for their stupidity. Nature at its finest.

Blunderstar · #4 07-19-2011, 06:38 AM

So this sounds kind of odd, but I would love to die this way. Anyone agree?

Huddled together with loved ones, facing doom, knowing there's no way out. All I can do is wait, etc. I dunno, it'd be a cool finale. Also, it gives me a good reason to say, "Looks like this is the end!

" I've always wanted to say that in a dramatic, intense situation.

Dread_Lord · #5 07-19-2011, 06:42 AM

2 lived.

Malcolm Equis · #6 07-19-2011, 06:43 AM

If your intention is to defy death
I'll tell you now even the best get laid to rest

Malcolm Equis · #7 07-19-2011, 06:46 AM

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2 lived.

"Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)" (Surah Luqman:-31:34)

The Greek · #8 07-19-2011, 06:47 AM

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2 lived.

Do you know which 2? I read an article on it but I can't wtf those Indian names mean.

arleybob · #9 07-19-2011, 06:47 AM

fucking morons

The Greek · #10 07-19-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Malcolm Equis

"Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)" (Surah Luqman:-31:34)

stfu faggot

Darkhunter · #11 07-19-2011, 06:58 AM

If all of zoklet stood in front of a waterfall half would be pushing the other half in.

The Greek · #12 07-19-2011, 07:03 AM

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If all of zoklet stood in front of a waterfall half would be pushing the other half in.

That would just be more darwinsim. Frankly I think this society could use a lot more darwinism.

Minotaur · #13 07-19-2011, 07:08 AM

It looks like that family had a 'falling out'.

The Greek · #14 07-19-2011, 07:09 AM

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It looks like that family had a 'falling out'.

I lolled at how shitty this was.

The Greek · #15 07-19-2011, 07:17 AM

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See how they were all huddling together like that? Only one of them had to fall in order to drag the rest down.

Meh, I think they were fucked at that point, that flood didn't look like it was planning on easing up any time soon. Actually more humane for it to end quick.

Blunderstar · #16 07-19-2011, 07:40 AM

The Greek, do you feel intelligent when you use the term "darwinism"? What's with everybody using this term recently? The darwinism they're referring to in today's society doesn't exist; it's fiction excused as a theory, and is an evolutionist's joke. Just because somebody dies doing something stupid, doesn't mean they've helped to create an intellectual society in the future. It pisses me off whenever somebody dies doing something that's slightly retarded, and people reply with "Darwinism! DARWINISM!!!!!!!!" in some vain attempt to appear intellectual.

It's a theory of organic evolution claiming that new species arise and are perpetuated by natural selection; some humans fumbling and making mistakes has no place in this definition. Ever since that fucking movie...

whocares · #17 07-19-2011, 07:41 AM

2 out of 5 lived.

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A day out at the popular Patalpani waterfalls in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh turned to tragedy when floodwaters turned a crossing point on the river into a powerful torrent in seconds. More than a dozen people were crossing when the flood struck, leaving five cling to each other for support before the tide of water swept them over edge of the waterfall. Of the five people seen plunging hundreds of feet over the edge of a waterfall in this video, two miraculously survived.

According to local reports, two of those swept over the cataracts were rescued alive. The corpse of a woman who died in the tragedy was recovered, and two of the five are still missing.

Nanuram (25) of Badnawar and Anishq (18) of Harda were somehow saved by the people. But the body of Chavi (22), daughter of Purshottam Dhoot and a resident of Aggrawal Nagar was fished out by fire tenders of Mhow and Indore. The body of Chandrashekhar Rathi (55) and Mudita Rathi (22), both residents of Harda were still missing. Both Mudita and Chavi were pursuing MBA at a college in Indore. Bherulal Chowdhary, an eyewitness to the incident, said more than 50 persons were sitting near the waterfall when the water suddenly gushed into the stream, forcing them to scamper towards safety. Heavy rains were reported in the catchment area of the upstream, thus flash flooding occurred before authorities had time to inform the tourists. The villagers warned the people sitting in the risky areas and asked them to move away from water.

The Patal Pani waterfalls are a popular scenic tourist spot. Sightseers regularly use the shallow, exposed stones at the top of the falls to cross to the other side.

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...0#post57449020

The Greek · #18 07-19-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blunderstar

The darwinism they're referring to in today's society doesn't exist; it's fiction excused as a theory, and is an evolutionist's joke.

Tell that to the waterfall.

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Just because somebody dies doing something stupid, doesn't mean they've helped to create an intellectual society in the future.

...Yes it does so.

Blunderstar · #19 07-19-2011, 07:50 AM

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...Yes it does so.

Kay.

---Beany--- · #20 07-19-2011, 07:51 AM

That video makes me feel sad

Sir Cornwell · #21 07-19-2011, 07:51 AM

You freeze.

Then you fall.

Blunderstar · #22 07-19-2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Greek

Tell that to the waterfall.

Excluding luck, any human would be fucked in that situation. But that isn't what you're referring to; you're referring to their stupidity of being there in the first place, right?

We're not going to "evolve" into a race that realizes, "oh shit, I shouldn't stand in front of a waterfall". Even those people realized that; they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And this is just going by your definition. Even if they didn't realize they weren't supposed to be standing front of a waterfall, that still isn't darwinism because they're the same species as we are!

The Greek · #23 07-19-2011, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blunderstar

Excluding luck, any human would be fucked in that situation. But that isn't what you're referring to; you're referring to their stupidity of being there in the first place, right?

We're not going to "evolve" into a race that realizes, "oh shit, I shouldn't stand in front of a waterfall". Even those people realized that; they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No, I mean exactly what I said.

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Darwinism. From what I can tell there were a great deal of people on the fall when the water came in, and most, more than 90%, realized hey, I should get the fuck out of here pronto. The other 5 didn't make that realization, tried to leave slowly without getting wet, and died for their stupidity. Nature at its finest.

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And this is just going by your definition. Even if they didn't realize they weren't supposed to be standing front of a waterfall, that still isn't darwinism because they're the same species as we are!

...lol. Ya... I think this quote says more than I ever could.

Blunderstar · #24 07-19-2011, 08:03 AM

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No, I mean exactly what I said.

Okay, I can refute that - but you should be clear about one thing: That isn't actually what happened. Watch the video again; nobody realized the water was coming until seconds beforehand. The people who didn't escape from the bank were slow old mamas who started out on the other side - and the male villagers went back to get them, instead of escaping solo.

I really hope you're not saying that going back to save some of the slower family members constitutes as a means to die in regards to Darwinism. Otherwise, I don't know how to have this conversation wtih you.

The Greek · #25 07-19-2011, 08:06 AM

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I really hope you're not saying that going back to save some of the slower family members constitutes as a means to die in regards to Darwinism. Otherwise, I don't know how to have this conversation wtih you.

Good thing you were born a human and not into a pack of wolves.

E: Andddd no. I watched it again. From the very start there is shouting, and it looks like someone is turning on the camera because they realize the flood is coming. Everyone is well aware by that point, and the other family members arn't even helping in anyway. They are all being slow as shit. If I was that dad i would have ordered all the kids out instantly and tried to save the wife myself. That would be good darwinism, I would ensure my kids survived, that would be my first priority. Not in this family. And it rained hard the previous days, so a flood should have been expected by common sense. If you can't move faster than 1km an hour, then don't go on a waterfall edge when a flood is expected. Yes, thats fucking darwinism.

Blunderstar · #26 07-19-2011, 08:06 AM

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I'm afraid so my friend.

Good thing you were born a human and not into a pack of wolves.

Okay, so if your mom was about to be hit by a flood, you wouldn't save her?

Like, I'm assuming you love your mom, so I guess I should ask something a bit more practicle: Do you think it's stupid to try and save somebody from a natural disaster?

The Greek · #27 07-19-2011, 08:13 AM

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Okay, so if your mom was about to be hit by a flood, you wouldn't save her?

Like, I'm assuming you love your mom, so I guess I should ask something a bit more practicle: Do you think it's stupid to try and save somebody from a natural disaster?

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And I think its stupid to die needlessly. They could have even walked out for a little bit after the water hit. I've been in fast paced rivers before and its harder than it looks but it would have been doable, it was only up to their knees for a good while.

Sir Cornwell · #28 07-19-2011, 08:14 AM

Two of those old mommas were pretty hot! No wonder they tried to save them. I wouldn't mind getting an old hot 22 yr old momma long 'bout right now.

"While two of the family managed to swim to safety, three others including 22-year-old cousins Chhavi and Modita and Modita's father Chandrashekhar drowned to death as the wave swept them away while they were enjoying at a waterfall in Patalpani."

I wonder just where they swam to safety?

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indore-fa.../168236-3.html

Blunderstar · #29 07-19-2011, 08:15 AM

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E: Andddd no. I watched it again. From the very start there is shouting, and it looks like someone is turning on the camera because they realize the flood is coming. Everyone is well aware by that point, and the other family members arn't even helping in anyway. They are all being slow as shit. If I was that dad i would have ordered all the kids out instantly and tried to save the wife myself. That would be good darwinism, I would ensure my kids survived, that would be my first priority. Not in this family. And it rained hard the previous days, so a flood should have been expected by common sense

There! You just said it! Common sense!

Darwinism doesn't have anything to do with "common sense"; it has to do with real flaws within species! I don't even know if you're trolling me right now; I've never really read your other posts. I'm aware the definition of darwinism has changed a lot over time, but you can't just say, "Oh I would've done this slightly different than they did - they deserved to die" in regards to bettering the human race.

That's like saying, "Oh yeah, cats deserve to be wiped out, because I saw one fall off a fence once. DARWINISM LOL".

Humans do stupid things all the time; this was some a vague and unfortunate incident - claiming "darwinism" is just ridiculing any real cases of it actually happening (according to one of the later definitions, which is what I now realize you're referring to).

Blunderstar · #30 07-19-2011, 08:22 AM

Actually my last post is rather shit so you can probably refute a lot of my points. Especially that fucking cat argument. It just comes down to what you think is a flaw, whereas I don't see thinking through a game plan slightly improperly within the amount of time they had a flaw at all; especially one that can be fixed through evolution.

Fish · #31 07-19-2011, 08:22 AM

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Did anybody else predict the OP would say, "What could possibly go wrong?" before they clicked this thread?

Actually, I was expecting something like a cross between the double rainbow guy and this:

The Greek · #32 07-19-2011, 08:23 AM

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There! You just said it! Common sense!

Darwinism doesn't have anything to do with "common sense"; it has to do with real flaws within species! I don't even know if you're trolling me right now; I've never really read your other posts. I'm aware the definition of darwinism has changed a lot over time, but you can't just say, "Oh I would've done this slightly different than they did - they deserved to die" in regards to bettering the human race.

That's like saying, "Oh yeah, cats deserve to be wiped out, because I saw one fall off a fence once. DARWINISM LOL".

Humans do stupid things all the time; this was some a vague and unfortunate incident - claiming "darwinism" is just ridiculing any real cases of it actually happening (according to one of the later definitions, which is what I now realize you're referring to).

No, I'm afraid its you who doesn't understand Darwinism. Let me clear this up.

darwinism:
a theory of organic evolution claiming that new species arise and are perpetuated by natural selection.

natural selection: The process whereby organisms better adapted to their environment tend to survive and produce more offspring. The theory of its action was first fully expounded by Charles Darwin and is now believed to be the main process that brings about evolution

So. Whenever someone dies without successfully reproducing, it is referred to as Darwinism. The decimation of an entire family is really the same thing also. What this really means is, that if you die without reproducing, whatever the reason, be it waterfall or genetic heart problem, its Darwinism.

whocares · #33 07-19-2011, 08:26 AM

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No, I'm afraid its you who doesn't understand Darwinism. Let me clear this up.

darwinism:
a theory of organic evolution claiming that new species arise and are perpetuated by natural selection.

natural selection: The process whereby organisms better adapted to their environment tend to survive and produce more offspring. The theory of its action was first fully expounded by Charles Darwin and is now believed to be the main process that brings about evolution

So. Whenever someone dies without successfully reproducing, it is referred to as Darwinism. The decimation of an entire family is really the same thing also. What this really means is, that if you die without reproducing, whatever the reason, be it waterfall or genetic heart problem, its Darwinism.

Natural selection is acts of the food chain, not natural disasters. According to you a group of strong people die because that get caught up in a firestorm is because of natural selection?

Blunderstar · #34 07-19-2011, 08:26 AM

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No, I'm afraid its you who doesn't understand Darwinism. Let me clear this up.

darwinism:
a theory of organic evolution claiming that new species arise and are perpetuated by natural selection.

I literally posted that same definition earlier in the thread.

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So. Whenever someone dies without successfully reproducing, it is referred to as Darwinism. The decimation of an entire family is really the same thing also. What this really means is, that if you die without reproducing, whatever the reason, be it waterfall or genetic heart problem, its Darwinism.

Come on... I already explained that there were multiple definitions, and you know you weren't referring to that when you brought it up.

But yeah, see my previous post. I cbf anymore.

Sir Cornwell · #35 07-19-2011, 08:28 AM

Being in running water is a lot different than being out side it looking on, but it looks like they had a few seconds to push it. If a chain of people on shore had formed and reached out, if the people in the water had chained up and got right in and reached for the shore chain?

If (hah!) everybody had been quick. After that short time frame the people in the water probably knew they were screwed and just wanted to live as long as they could. Storm water happens quickly and cloudbursts can mess people up fast.

Bleeding Kansas · #36 07-19-2011, 08:31 AM

I was expecting a group of hippies to walk underneath a waterfall only to get smacked fucking down by the force of it.

This just made me sad. I don't know why they tired to move. That was the biggest mistake. They could have stay put until someone got a fucking rope or the river died back down.

The Greek · #37 07-19-2011, 08:32 AM

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Natural selection is acts of the food chain, not natural disasters. According to you a group of strong people die because that get caught up in a firestorm is because of natural selection?

Well, assuming some people survive the firestorm, than ya. Maybe they should have had a better fire escape plan.