Crying when someone dies is a selfish act

Daily · #1 07-21-2011, 02:59 PM

Why do people cry when others die? They're not suffering (unless they believe that they're in hell now). People cry because that person isn't there for them anymore, so the crying people are only crying because they have now lost a source which provided a benefit in their lives. People should be celebrating that others have escaped this hell. I never understand why religious people cry when other religious people die...I mean, the dead religious people are in heaven now, according to them...the ultimate paradise. So, why THE FUCK ARE YOU CRYING??? I've noticed that death hits atheists harder since atheists aren't comforted with the thought of afterlife for the dead. That's completely understood. So yeah...next time someone dies, don't cry you selfish fuck!

Also, I know some people would say that they cry for the family of the dead...who are also crying (being selfish). So...you're crying for people who are being selfish...wut...

Flatland · #2 07-21-2011, 03:08 PM

I think it's more innate than that. People miss people when they die, that's more of a human thing than a religious thing. I cry when people I love die, fuck you.

This nature I think shows itself despite the religious brainwashing that you mentioned. In fact it is magnified because of the irony. Even though they "believe" there loved one is in heaven, they still bawl there fuckin eyes out because in truth, they have very little ability to understand what just actually happened.

That said, most religion hinders many people from earnestly listening to their own inner voice and reason.

Daily · #3 07-21-2011, 03:11 PM

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I think it's more innate than that. People miss people when they die.

And why do they miss them? Because these people provided them happiness (the absolute emotion, which branches into other emotions). When this source of positive emotion is cut off, they cry. So it's still a selfish act because all they care about is their lack of happiness that stems from the other person's death. It's all about mememe.

elf omg · #4 07-21-2011, 03:12 PM

having mixed emotions about things often makes me cry. in this case it might feel like the purest sort of hope for mankind and the sadness that comes with losing someone. knowledge that this person is now dead and will never come back.

it's ridiculous to call anyone selfish here. doesn't really matter if they are or aren't. or who they may be. crying isn't bad, it's just emotional.

J.P.W · #5 07-21-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daily

Why do people cry when others die? They're not suffering (unless they believe that they're in hell now). People cry because that person isn't there for them anymore, so the crying people are only crying because they have now lost a source which provided a benefit in their lives. People should be celebrating that others have escaped this hell. I never understand why religious people cry when other religious people die...I mean, the dead religious people are in heaven now, according to them...the ultimate paradise. So, why THE FUCK ARE YOU CRYING??? I've noticed that death hits atheists harder since atheists aren't comforted with the thought of afterlife for the dead. That's completely understood. So yeah...next time someone dies, don't cry you selfish fuck!

Also, I know some people would say that they cry for the family of the dead...who are also crying (being selfish). So...you're crying for people who are being selfish...wut...

Very creative troll-thread, however, crying is an emotion you can't always control. It's a bit rude to call someone selfish who can't control their emotions.

Daily · #6 07-21-2011, 03:13 PM

It's a selfish act. Get over it, elf.

elf omg · #7 07-21-2011, 03:14 PM

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It's a selfish act. Get over it, elf.

bish wut

cosmic · #8 07-21-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daily

Why do people cry when others die? They're not suffering (unless they believe that they're in hell now). People cry because that person isn't there for them anymore, so the crying people are only crying because they have now lost a source which provided a benefit in their lives. People should be celebrating that others have escaped this hell. I never understand why religious people cry when other religious people die...I mean, the dead religious people are in heaven now, according to them...the ultimate paradise. So, why THE FUCK ARE YOU CRYING??? I've noticed that death hits atheists harder since atheists aren't comforted with the thought of afterlife for the dead. That's completely understood. So yeah...next time someone dies, don't cry you selfish fuck!

Also, I know some people would say that they cry for the family of the dead...who are also crying (being selfish). So...you're crying for people who are being selfish...wut...

Ok..

If your mother dies, you would not cry?

How about your dog? Cat? Best friend? Child?

Its called human emotion, crying is the way for our bodys to adjust to the change, and feelings is our way of grieving, crying is a emotion..

If you do not have have emotions.. please seek professional help immediately!

Daily · #9 07-21-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J.P.W

Very creative troll-thread, however, crying is an emotion you can't always control. It's a bit rude to call someone selfish who can't control their emotions.

lol it's "rude" what the fuck, you think we living in some paradise world? What about people who cannot control their Kleptomania, does that mean they're not thieves? The people who cannot control their heroin addiction are not druggies? LOL!

Daily · #10 07-21-2011, 03:16 PM

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Ok..

If your mother dies, you would not cry?

How about your dog? Cat? Best friend? Child?

Its called human emotion, crying is the way for our bodys to adjust to the change, and feelings is our way of grieving, crying is a emotion..

If you do not have have emotions.. please seek professional help immediately!

I would not cry at all. I am not a selfish person. A friend of mine died recently and I did not shed a tear. I envied them. It's amazing how many deniers there are.

elf omg · #11 07-21-2011, 03:17 PM

everyone cries, daily. it's normal and stuff.

Daily · #12 07-21-2011, 03:19 PM

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Neither of those examples are triggered by an emotion.

It doesn't matter, all of these things are triggered through chemical reactions. The point is, these things are out of their control.

EDIT: why'd you delete your post?

cosmic · #13 07-21-2011, 03:19 PM

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I would not cry at all. I am not a selfish person. A friend of mine died recently and I did not shed a tear. I envied them. It's amazing how many deniers there are.

Honestly daily, you need to see a psychiatrist.. You may be the next terrorist in this lifetime...

Emotions are apart of the human response system that adapts to change.. If you say you wont cry when your own child dies, then whats going to stop you from killing it??

Get help

Blunderstar · #14 07-21-2011, 03:20 PM

Lol, autism.

J.P.W · #15 07-21-2011, 03:21 PM

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EDIT: why'd you delete your post?

I was wrong, they are triggered by emotions. Desire.

Daily · #16 07-21-2011, 03:22 PM

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Honestly daily, you need to see a psychiatrist.. You may be the next terrorist in this lifetime...

Emotions are apart of the human response system that adapts to change.. If you say you wont cry when your own child dies, then whats going to stop you from killing it??

Get help

Actually, I am hoping to be a Psychiatrist. Check my diagnosis thread in this section. Also Blunderful, I do not suffer from autism or any kind of disorder on the autistic spectrum (Asperger's, etc) because I do not lack theory of mind skills. I can identify emotions and I can fully communicate my own thoughts.

Nolte · #17 07-21-2011, 03:25 PM

I think in alot of cases it reminds people of their own mortality.

cosmic · #18 07-21-2011, 03:26 PM

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Actually, I am hoping to be a Psychiatrist.

Sorry to break the news to you... But with a thought process like yours.. Your hope will die..

Because with your thought process.... Whats stopping you from killing someone if you have no emotion?

You are saying the same thing that Every serial killer caught has always said.

Do you actually think if they seen this post you would get licensed??

J.P.W · #19 07-21-2011, 03:30 PM

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Sorry to break the news to you... But with a thought process like yours.. Your hope will die..

Because with your thought process.... Whats stopping you from killing someone if you have no emotion?

You are saying the same thing that Every serial killer caught has always said.

Do you actually think if they seen this post you would get licensed??

An emotionless psych would be the most objective one.

Om Namah Shivaya · #20 07-21-2011, 03:30 PM

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People should be celebrating that others have escaped this hell.

Daily · #21 07-21-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmic

Sorry to break the news to you... But with a thought process like yours.. Your hope will die..

Because with your thought process.... Whats stopping you from killing someone if you have no emotion?

You are saying the same thing that Every serial killer caught has always said.

Do you actually think if they seen this post you would get licensed??

I don't think my hope will die (I'm in medical school, entering my third year).

When did I say I have no emotion, btw? That's right, I didn't.

Serial killers? Wut? I don't know if you know this, but not all serial killers are psychopaths. Many of them feel remorse and regret for what they have done (a lot of serial killers confess). Also, a trait found in a serial killer can be applied to anyone. I can't believe I'm bringing this up. You are so misinformed.

Yeah, if "they" see this post, it would give me an advantage as a big worry in psychiatry is the doctor getting attached to their patients.

testerman · #22 07-21-2011, 03:36 PM

I think it's a combo of things - you cry for them because they did something stupid and bit the dust. and then you cry because you can never see them again. it's stunning to realize this person suddely you can never talk to them again.

Daily · #23 07-21-2011, 03:59 PM

It's amazing how mad niggas get when the realisation of their selfishness finally hits them like shrapnel in Mexico. I think you guys should be more like these guys:

Happy music for selfish people!

Blunderstar · #24 07-21-2011, 04:01 PM

Reason I cry at funerals: I feel sorry for them. They don't exist anymore. It's sad to think about someone just immediately not existing.

Daily · #25 07-21-2011, 04:05 PM

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Reason I cry at funerals: I feel sorry for them. They don't exist anymore. It's sad to think about someone just immediately not existing.

But why would you feel sorry for THEM when you don't know where they are now? They could ultimately be nothing, or they could be in Heaven now having the time of their lives. Just because they don't exist doesn't mean they are not better off.

elf omg · #26 07-21-2011, 04:07 PM

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It's amazing how mad niggas get when the realisation of their selfishness finally hits them like shrapnel in Mexico. I think you guys should be more like these guys:

Happy music for selfish people!

this was a fun song

Blunderstar · #27 07-21-2011, 04:12 PM

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But why would you feel sorry for THEM when you don't know where they are now?

Because... I don't know where they are now?

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They could ultimately be nothing, or they could be in Heaven now having the time of their lives. Just because they don't exist doesn't mean they are not better off.

But... you're only saying, "oh don't cry, they could be having the time of their lives in heaven!" meaning that we should express emotion in regards to where they could be. So that means it's justifiable to feel sad if we also assume that they're in some place that's really horrible.

**Zanick** · #28 07-21-2011, 04:16 PM

OP must be crucified.

Daily · #29 07-21-2011, 04:17 PM

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But... you're only saying, "oh don't cry, they could be having the time of their lives in heaven!" meaning that we should express emotion in regards to where they could be.

Yes, exactly.

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So that means it's justifiable to feel sad if we also assume that they're in some place that's really horrible.

Also, yes, exactly. You have brought up a completely different perspective on death. Your feelings stem from the unknown, rather than the fact that you will not be receiving any source of happiness from the person(s) (which is ultimately selfish).

Daily · #30 07-21-2011, 04:17 PM

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OP must be crucified.

u mad (also selfish)

ZappaFan · #31 07-21-2011, 04:18 PM

You:
1. Are trolling
2. Have never lossed someone close to you

Or possibly both.

Crying over someones death isn't selfish. Asking if they left you anything in their will is selfish. Asking if you can stay in their room or borrow their ride is selfish.

Daily · #32 07-21-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZappaFan

You:
1. Are trolling
2. Have never lossed someone close to you

Or possibly both.

Crying over someones death isn't selfish. Asking if they left you anything in their will is selfish. Asking if you can stay in their room or borrow their ride is selfish.

Wow, the trolling card. You have no argument against this so you resort to calling me a troll. Nice. Also, as stated in this thread, I have lost a close friend of mine (as well as relatives).

Obbe · #33 07-21-2011, 04:22 PM

In reality no act entirely is selfish or selfless as we are all one being/environment/life force.

Blunderstar · #34 07-21-2011, 04:24 PM

I actually don't think Daily's trolling, since I sort of agree with him. The thing I posted is the only thing I find sad, and I admit when I cry that I'll never see them again that it's selfish. There are other specific cases though.

Daily · #35 07-21-2011, 04:24 PM

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In spirituality no act entirely is selfish or selfless as we are all one being/environment/life force.

Fix'd, and no, don't bring up physics.

**Zanick** · #36 07-21-2011, 04:27 PM

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u mad (also selfish)

You scared?

yxnhpbjac · #37 07-21-2011, 04:28 PM

This may be true, but I don't mind it because I consider it a possessive selfishness like the emotion of love, but for a human, so it is a desire for another person itself. I would consider ordinary selfishness to be any desire that would harm another, while one benefits.