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Old 03-20-2009, 11:43 PM
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Default Dextroamphetamine --> Methamphetamine??

Well I have a shitload of dex, and I'm wondering if there is an easy way to turn it into meth. I have limited chemistry abilities, as in I could easily make meth out of ephedrine pills, and understand the chemistry involved, but I don't understand complicated chemistry or have access to any illegal chemicals.

So is there an easy DIY way to turn this dex into meth? Or would it be too complex to be worthwhile for me?

Btw I have like over 2000mgs of dex.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:58 AM
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? 1 no ? 2 yes
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Old 03-21-2009, 03:46 AM
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Formaldehyde + zinc + adderal = mefs.
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Formaldehyde + zinc + adderal = mefs.
I never knew that. That's so sweet.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:54 PM
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Formaldehyde + zinc + adderal = mefs.
Beat me too it.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Dextroamphetamine --> Methamphetamine??

look up shulgin's mdma from mda entry in pihkal. i believe he uses formaldehyde and zinc... maybe some other metal.

i like dexamp so much though i wouldnt bother since its solid dextro isomer...
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:22 PM
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look up shulgin's mdma from mda entry in pihkal. i believe he uses formaldehyde and zinc... maybe some other metal.

He actually forms the imine with formic acid using a Dean-Stark trap, (or ethyl formate, without the Dean-Stark, which gave lower yields) and reduces it with LiAlH4.

I wonder how straightforward using formaldehyde/zinc actually is - for example, could you just use paraformaldehyde or formalin, or would you need to crack paraformaldehyde to get the monomer?

Does anyone have a prep knocking around? I can't be bothered to dig one out...
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On this 'hyde n zinc bit. Some people somewhere (maybe here, maybe WD, I forget. Ooh, actually, I think it was at SM) had some trouble with the procedure. I don't know exactly why, but they were also using H3PO4 as some kind of catalyst. Moreover, I heard something about a lumpy, gooey hard-to-clean reaction mix that came out in the end. I don't know whether they've made progress on this or not, or whether it was really a problem or just nasty looking.
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rant: I might make up some pma to experiment with... not for ingestion strictly hahaha. I would guess that if it could be done, the imine could be reduced with zinc easily. I dont think it would strip to a ketone.... Not sure about the imine preparation but i would guess it pretty straightforward. I'd never risk two grams of dAmp over it, no way in hell. Yeilds would kill way too much, not much more potent. However, tons of shit could be done it its that simple...

short: dont waste your time
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IWD: Using the message boards to organize criminal activity is a seven point infraction. If you're gonna try and score at least use the PMs (KIDDING.)

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Now, back on topic mofos.
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Back on topic fuckers. IWD don't try that shit again

I have had it with your ass.

Oh and HeaT pick your oil carefully for PMA!
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:47 PM
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I've read recently about using LiAlH4 to convert Boc protected primary amines to the corresponding secondary methyl amines...

Is this right?

I could easily have misread the articles, wasn't really paying to much attention, but anyone know about this? Mechanism?
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LiAlH4 and boc protected primary amines seem a little less than OTC. IMO, we should be focusing more on the "everyman's monomethylation." IE, Zn and CH2O
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On this 'hyde n zinc bit. Some people somewhere (maybe here, maybe WD, I forget. Ooh, actually, I think it was at SM) had some trouble with the procedure. I don't know exactly why, but they were also using H3PO4 as some kind of catalyst. Moreover, I heard something about a lumpy, gooey hard-to-clean reaction mix that came out in the end. I don't know whether they've made progress on this or not, or whether it was really a problem or just nasty looking.
This was at SM.
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