Sure, some of them may not be able to control their feelings, and that's fine, but when they act on those feelings, they have the potential to ruin lives.
Pretty soon, the Japanese will invent robotic 8 year-olds, and our problems will be solved.
The media and government makes you feel like that. When society labels the young girl/boy a victim then of course they will feel like that if they're constantly being told that. If only you morons could shut up and listen there wouldn't be as many problems as there is.
I don't want shrapnel stuck in my dick when they self destruct if I accidentally push the red button.
Actually I would have given her one week to see if she really did want to find out about sex. Then if for some reason she wanted to experiment with me, I would have given her 3 more weeks to think it over. 3 weeks is a long time, especially to children, and most would lose interest in that subject before then.
If a girl still wanted to do that after that time, then she must of decided herself that it would be in her best interest.
Not to mention this was an imaginary example, in most cases the child would have grown interest in sex long before wanting to consent to it. For example when I learned to read I was reading all the descriptions on DirectTv programs, and I happened to decide that "Women getting dirty and taking their clothes off" was in my best interests. Later on I would have gladly had sex with my 3rd grade teacher, she was hot (I thought so then and would still think so if I saw her now), if only she would ask me. But of course being a shy kid as I was, I wouldn't dare ask that myself.
And i've read in plenty of places that children can in fact have orgasms, something JP would probably agree with.
I don't know enough about children's sexual development to comment further in that area.
I still think you shouldn't hang around kids, I think it would be highly inappropriate if this scenario ever came along and you acted on it, that a child really doesn't fully understand it, and that it would be taking advantage of someone who lacked adult intelligence and impulse control.
They really do beat them as well, with poles and what ever object is close enough to them.
I remember this joke:
"Don't make me run your ass over with this taxi, son"
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Do you have any evidence that the "African American" community disciplines their children more than any other race?
surprised you didn't jump on that stereotype, like you did that "niggers are lazy" and whatnot.
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That link is amateur and fallacious in nature because it doesn't take in to account whether or not their parents were disciplining their children or abusing them, there is a huge difference.
It's the same shit, you're making up all sorts of distinctions to say "oh, at least I'm not doing X" or "I may be doing 1,2,3, but im not doing 4" type arguments.
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People don't really just.. pass over what they don't like.
lol. "How can you be attracted to that" and other weak arguments
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Even if i don't like it, if there was effort/actual thought shown, i can respect it a bit more than 'omg lololz look hes all bloody n stuff its cool rite???!'.
have you seen Tokyo Gore Police? The Gore is so blatantly false we laughed at it when we showed it. They had guns that shot ourthuman fists
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Haha, well, one leads to the other in trains of thought, so. Nobody wants to get vanned, though :x
indeed.
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Very true. the kawaii thing is such a big deal in anime and manga,- large eyes, small bodies/features, careless/cute behaviour. Its logical.
one of the reasons I like Anime, it's cute. Something you don't see a lot of in Western Animation.
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Sometimes there are creeper vibes, but actually looking into it is worthwhile before screaming 'sickfuck'.
lol. Give the antis loli doujins. JUST AS PLANNED
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This too. The tsundere types, or (i forget the other term) very serious, quiet types often play in. That kind of juxtaposition could be exciting to a person. (i also think of Gunslinger Girl when thinking of that type of thing).
lol. On the rag.
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Man, Elfen Lied : ( i didn't mess with that one. too sad.
You should've dude. Was PURE WIN. But yeah some parts were REAL sad, like
Lucy Killing Kouta's Dad and little sister
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surprised you didn't jump on that stereotype, like you did that "niggers are lazy" and whatnot.
What stereotype? Everyone knows black people don't look after their children.
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It's the same shit, you're making up all sorts of distinctions to say "oh, at least I'm not doing X" or "I may be doing 1,2,3, but im not doing 4" type arguments.
LOL, come again? There is a difference between beating a child for no reason, and beating a child when they make a bad decision. One is a consequence for an action, the other is a simple abuse of a child. By your logic kidnapping a random person and putting them in a cage is the same as putting someone in prison.
Ahh.... here we come to the founding lesson of my childhood, learned in infancy to form a core and continued thereonward...
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Pedos, by definition, are criminals, and very harmful ones at that.
Well, perhaps! 'n the really interesting thing?
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One may not always be able to control his feelings--he can always control his actions.
They are "criminals" - "always" and "by definition" - whether they "control" their actions or not.
No matter what they do... or no matter what they don't do. They are "criminals" - because they were born. That's... all it takes.
Thoughtcrime... sexcrime... and now we have added a new one... racecrime. A fine definition, it is the crime... of being born.
Congratulations. You have improved on Orwell well. I'm certain he would be quite proud. And in case you're wondering? When this is the lessons learned from infancy, the social contract is broken. Period, and there's no going back now.
The answer, instead, is found in Judeo-Christian prophecy, ironically. Not the one in which highly-accelerated tritium slams into a pile of lithium deuteride, that from a third of the waters was unleashed upon a third of the earth, this starfire in the name of the bitterness of my peoples as the matter was written in the prophecy, nay... to be sure, you're going to fucking get that outcome in a damn fucking hurry if you don't pull your head out of your fucking ass and learn a little humility tempering your genocidal blasphemy of thinking you unilaterally dictate which of Gods' creatures lives and which are fun to torture and dispose for your sport, but in this case, another one.
When "good" and "evil" are turned upside down, when your sense of "nonjudgemental compassion without prejudice" commands you to hurt people just for existing, there is only one thing that restores balance, and set
the universe back in its proper order. An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. Burning for burning and wound for wound. When good and evil are thrown out the window, only balance can be restored, and it is the Law of Reprisal which teaches decency to a heart so twisted that its "good" commands it to destroy human lives.
Everyone on this forum knows you are a fool, old man, drunk on the blindness of your certainty that a mere century and the few hundred miles you may have seen with your eyes mean a damn in a world measured in galactic superclusters and billions of aeons... but are you truly fool enough to believe that you who rely on the pain of others truly does not yourself bleed? That your flesh does not burn when exposed to fire? Are you that much the fool to think that, when the Law of Yeshua bar Youseph is suspended, replaced with the older law to serve the purpouse for which it was forged, to break your false naming of evil as good by returning what you have done unto others unto you until you must find a new name and knowledge of what you do to your neighbor - do you really think yourself so much a God that your flesh remain untouched?
Millions will die because you have led them into evil, Greyfox, as a mere eye for an eye claims them. Tell us... is your heart truly so twisted that you claim it worth your life just to know that you are the cause of the death and suffering of others? Are you an avatar of evil, Greyfox... or are you weak? Will you falter as the fire claims your flesh, and begin to doubt whether evil was worth this for the mere sake of evil itself?
Inquiring minds may want to know... but it matters not, for the law of reprisal will bring its restoration to the balance, draw clarity to the line between, whether you even know yourself well enough to know the answer to the depth of your service or not.
I ride for my race, because I die for my race. These are the lessons of my infancy and childhood, Greyfox, and I have learned them well.
What lessons have shaped you in your service to your spread of evil, Greyfox, and how did you learn them?
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The media and government makes you feel like that. When society labels the young girl/boy a victim then of course they will feel like that if they're constantly being told that. If only you morons could shut up and listen there wouldn't be as many problems as there is.
Come on, you're saying that children abused by pedophiles only feel abused because they're told or made to feel that way?
The actual abuse has nothing to do with it? Being taken advantage of in such a way doesn't effect them? Being violated? Raped?
If children naturally weren't effected negatively by such experiences, what possible benefits would the government reap by making them feel that way?
Learning need not be a conscious effort. If the organism does what you wanted it to do, it has learned.
No, if an organism does what one wanted it to do, in this context, it has been conditioned. That is a form of learning, sure, but it isn't a particularly good way to go about things. The mind is bendable, but that doesn't mean it should be bent, in every case.
Come on, you're saying that children abused by pedophiles...
...or, not abused by pedophiles, or abused by nonpedophiles...
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...only feel abused because they're told or made to feel that way?
Probably varies from situation to situation, on the paramaters of that situation, doesn't it?
Doesn't it even disturb you in the least that your whole position relies entirely on every situation being exactly the same to go around making blanket assertions on shit you've never seen, weren't a part of, and know nothing about? Or is unrealism just not an obstacle to you?
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The actual abuse has nothing to do with it?
Not if no such thing happened, no...
Did you know that in the "Child Abuse Accomodation Syndrome" model of the "ritual abuse panic" starting circa 1980 and continuing throughout the 1990s, those who "disclosed" state-defined "sexual abuse" in the coercive interrogation models - which included and encouraged leading questions, discarding of "wrong" answers, promises of reward for "right" answers, and the continuation of incarceration of the child "victim" under high-pressure interrogation techniques until the "right" answers had been "disclosed" - 75% of "victims" recanted their coerced testimony upon leaving state care?
So.. umm... tell me exactly how shit which didn't happen lead to negative outcomes and being continually abused and told they were "damaged" and "ruined" while being coached to give the "right" answers didn't?
Can you?
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Being taken advantage of in such a way doesn't effect them?
...whether or not that happened...
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Being violated?
...whether or not it happened...
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Raped?
...whether or not it happened.
And yes. Shit-which-didn't-happen is obviously NOT the cause of any effect. Shit which did - say, being forced to be locked in a room with a person who tells you how horrible what they told you to say is and how ruined you are - probably is more likely than shit which didn't happen.
If children naturally weren't effected negatively by such experiences, what possible benefits would the government reap by making them feel that way?
Budget increases.
Seriously, do you have any idea HOW FUCKING MUCH BIGGER the "fag police" bureaus' budgets are after the "satanic panic," "stranger abduction," and "omg the internet is everywhere" promotions than, say, in 1969? This despite the fact that almost all violence against children still occurs in the home?
1. You have a paid client, usually on the states' dime, for as long as the victim resists your interrogation.
2. If/when you finally break them, you have a paid client - usually court-ordered and on the states' dime - to help them "adjust" to their role of "victim" - at least until they turn 18, and if you're lucky, you can trick them into continuing to pay you after that through your "sessions."
3. You can make a paying client out of ANYBODY, because if you pick someone at random and they deny being sexually abused, they are "resisting disclosure" and you need to keep "counseling" them until they disclose.
Easy money and a hell of a racket, enforced by the guns of the state. A similar thing happens in the drug war, where "addiction counselors" are court-ordered and must be selected from an "approved" list supplied by the state - simple coercion of commerce on a "kickback" scheme for inclusion.
So, tell me again how shit that DOESN'T happen, when it doesn't happen, causes everything... and shit that does happen causes nothing? 'cause I'd really like to hear it.
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[a] How do you know that's a general american sentiment ???? Do you have any statistics, researches....etc etc that proves .... beyond any reasonable doubt that the sentiments that villainized pedophiles are......indeed.....the sentiments of the majority of the americans......and not just the sentiments of a few vocally loud minorities that happen to have the power of making the laws and writing tv shows ??????
^^ this.
Active fieldwork suggests an 80-90% dissent rate. Where that dissent is - from "this shouting person is just an unpleasant sadistic asshole" through to "all beings are equally free, and equal, in dignity and in rights," well... that hasn't been determined... but 80-90% will refuse to participate in the persecutions, across all tests, and an additional 5-10% tend to come back and apologize later after they stop, if they can do it in private...
In case you're wondering, when...
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all my class mates including my teacher were talking about how much they think they should burn i was afraid to speak up
...creates a false consensus, this is what is known as a "terror regime." Democracy is suppressed by terroristic violence, creating a fear to speak up - and an active suppression of dialogue.
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infront of his house there are signs plastered to it saying 'a sex offender lives here' and the same, in huge yellow letters on his (dark green) car.
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maybe they should be put down? or locked up forever in a clean facility
Aw, shit guys - do I even NEED to draw the nazi comparisons on this one???
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Gayfox why do you condemn pedophilia but support homosexuality?
They're not old enough/mature enough to make logical, well thought out decisions.
And you are?
Let's discuss where you decided it's worthwile to plunge the world into nuclear war because shit you saw on your televison set was just really, really fuckin' emo, m'kay??
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This is why I steal and kill
+rep.
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Fact is most pedo and child relations ARE NOT consensual.
Any actual proof? I'd like to see your methodology, there...
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underage Slavic sex slaves being raped and filmed
Do you have links? Or were you just making stuff up?
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I would love to see a face-off between JoethePedo and Greyfox about pedophilia. That would be really, really interesting.
Maybe someday. Unfortunately, I deal with hate speech really shittily when tripping on acid, and pretty much lost my capacity "trancendental compassion for people who want to kill me" in a really bad trip... so, umm... it'll be a while before I recover enough for that to really happen like it should...
...I'll PM you a link if it ever does break out, though.
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A study I recently read ("Brain Pathology in Pedophilic Offenders", Schiltz et al.) looked at the brains of pedophile sex offenders. They consistently found...
Yeah... unfortunately, the toronto studies are crap, because it's (a) studies solely on an incarcerated population that (b) basically drew its pool from a "retard tank" for the bottom of the barrel within the system...
Freund has a review of some more credible literature, including mendelian inheritance study and CAT/MRI imaging...
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How intricate is sex? It is one of the simplest activities you can engage in. Your claim that twelve year olds do not have the capacity to understand it is baseless and contradicts reality.
It's actually been proven that fruit flies are capable of understanding sex, well enough to perpetuate the species...
I think that puts the "required mental capacity" at under a few thousand neurons total...
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Enjoy
Ucking Feckpic!
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Then.......how are you okay with a grown man/woman having sex with a 5 year old?
Don't you think sexual maturity would be kinda hard to judge?
Holy shit you're uneducated. You really don't know what those words mean?
The colloquial expression is "old enough to bleed," and is measured by the shedding of uterine lining and the elution of ovum for fertilization. Not surprisingly, "ovulating" and "capable of reproduction" are pretty much synonyms, and it's REEEAAALY not hard to judge whether someone woke up in a pool of menstural blood, dude. Pretty fucking obvious, in fact, and you can't miss it.
Did you NOT pay attention in health class?
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Being physically and mentally mature are very, very different.
Yeah, and you just threw a giant tantrum because not EVERYBODY was hating WITH you.
So, just out of curiosity... have you hit spermarche yet? Or do you NOT know enough to connect "goo shoots out the tip" with that concept, yet?
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How are they sex criminals? Consensual sex between two sexually developed people in my opinion can never be a sex crime.
Opinionwise, I'd strip the extraneous crap from your sentence and agree.
Unfortunately, it is NOT "people bullshitting on the internet" who decide what qualifies as "crime," and it just so happens that homosexuality is a punishable offense in MOST jurisdictions, and virtually ALL jurisdictions just a short while ago. Whether or not something is against the LAW defines "crime," not whether something is "right" or "wrong," I'm afraid...
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The real problem concerns those fucking rapists who destroy the life of children
Yes. Unfortunately, a lot of screaming idiots would rather ignore them, let them do their thing, and chase diaper faeries instead. Oh yay.
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When a homosexual man bests a heterosexual man in an argument, he's wrong, because he's gay, right?
Yeah, that's the usual quality of argument...
...of course, it's usually paired with "if you disagree with me, you're obviously gay," which is always fun. You should see the number of times SWF has had his sexual orientation completely misattributed...
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he sets up probably thousands of accounts on forums and argues his perspective.
You're a pretty intelligent guesser. We monitor most internet traffic, in fact...
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why not just allow people to just not waste the energy and...not care. With potsmokers...so what they can do what they want to do, it doesn't harm me. With homosexuals...good for them there gay, again, good for them, yaay. Whatever, whatever.
Eeeexcellent answer.
One of the most... disturbing problems I've seen is, well... not that other people hate people they've never met for being different from them, so much, but when these people can't accept anyone else having the right not to hate people they've never met. To me, that's a bit disturbing, honestly... "idk/idc" is probably the most rational response... and probably the best one.
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he was mad because the last board was getting full of pedo discussions
...similarly, throwing a tantrum that people would dare discuss subjects which are "forbidden" is... pervasively common.
I wonder what this says about these people?
1. No one must ever discuss anything.
2. No one must ever disagree with me anywhere.
3. We should kill a fuckload of people.
...that's basically the platform, right there. That... kinda creeps me out a bit.
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Anyone else think that molest is a dirty word and taken way out of context too much?
Yup. 'specially the "out of context" bits - its literal meaning is "to annoy mildly," in quality "no mi molestar, por favor" style...
Most people using it apparently actually don't even know what the words coming out of their mouth actually mean.
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Because you're not the only person fucking her anymore?
Epic fucking win.
Seen the DHHS stats? You're probably more spot-on than you think...
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Would it be alright to give an eight year old child cocaine?
...because sexual activity obviously involves sticking the penis in the dopamine transporter, rather than anywhere else...
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or some alcohol for that matter because they wanted to try it?
I wonder, what are the alcoholism rates for the US versus europe, anyway??
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Just because a child could vaguely understand the concept of sex
I'm wondering... just what doyou understand as "the concept of sex," anyway??
Because in all my studies of sciences, many of which happened before the age of eight years, I have never encountered anything less complex than "rub the bits that feel good," and I'm really wondering WTF you're thinking of.
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and want to try it doesn't mean you should do it.
Just because you want to try to dislike babyfuck, doesn't mean you should do it.
Now you know.
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An eight year old can't properly understand the concept
Yeah. I'm STILL wondering WTF you actually think sexual activity IS because of silly statements like this...
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eight year olds don't have real sexual feelings.
Do you have proof of this?
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Sexual thoughts are something you arrive at yourself once you reach puberty
Do you have proof of THIS, either?
Incidentally, the beginnings of puberty start at between 6 and 7 years of age on average, when the adrenal cortext starts spitting out sex hormones.
Since you're too stupid to wrap your mind around such simple concepts as "rub squishy bits together," and think they're complex, I feel obligated to inform you that both six and seven are smaller numbers than "eight." Just so you know...
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and then seek out.
Oh, so now every seven year old wants your cock?
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As an adult you should realize that she can't gain anything from having a sexual experience
...except, maybe, vigorous orgasms and a nice warm cuddle afterwards.
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Basically if she was to ask if you wanted to you should say no
Says who?
Oh. You. Nevermind, then.
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realizing it's just a stupid thing a kid would say.
Your overwhelming respect for these peoples' thoughts and feelings is what impresses me about you.
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Is it really appropriate to have sex with someone who at best has just recently developed the logical abilities to understand there is no santa claus?
Did you know that a vast majority of "adults" believe in invisible people in the sky?
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You are implying it would be alright to have sexual interactions with a girl who just one week before
Really? They all learn this at precisely 7 years, 358 days? Or are you just making shit up?
You've discovered that LYING is your best hope at foisting bullshit!!!
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and don't really understand what sex is about
I... still think it's you that can't wrap your mind around "rub the squishy bits together 'till it feels good."
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she may be developing curiosity
Yeah. An older woman down the street was developing "curiosity" about me once, but I turned her down.
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she will still be very ignorant having just learned what it is.
I want your link that proves that every single child learns about their sqiushy bits at the exact same time.
Oh, shit... we've already got that link. It seems the time is "in utero." So sorry. But lie some more, it's fucking funny.
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You would be taking advantage of a young girls sexual desire for your own sexual pleasure.
...and the problem is?
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I agree it's not as bad as rape or molestation, but that doesn't mean it's an appropriate thing to do.
Heterosexuality is inappropriate. 'cause I said so. Everything else is appropriate.
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You don't know how the girl will react to it...
...facial flushing, heavy breathing...
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or how it could affect her when she's older and understand what actually happened.
Namely "I asked someone to lick me where I pee and they did."
Yeah. I'm not too worried for some reason.
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Also think about the risk you would be taking
About none.
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she could feel ashamed and tell her mother
Oh. Yeah. I'm sure THAT'S the common response to asking people to join you in parentally-disapproved activities, lol...
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let them ride the lighting. they are sick people!
Don't worry nigga. We'll both die in the war.
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in most cases the child would have grown interest in sex long before wanting to {engage in} it.
Isn't that sort of, umm... redundant by definition, dude?
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one you sexually violate a child or anyone
Don't worry. I always ask permission.
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you have forever screwed up their life.
Gee. I'm sure THAT'S a cheery thing to hear.
It's also not true; many people actually DON'T wander around doing the "permanent victim" kick, and people can recover from just about anything, whether they should have to or not.
But hey - maybe if you follow them around all day telling them they'll always be a failure, you can prevent that!! Won't you be proud?
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ask most people in prions, a huge percentage were violated as children, look where it got them.
Ask Sean Connery if he ever had sexual relations before the age of consent. OMG PIMP OUT YOUR KIDZ TEHY WILL BECOMES RICH AND FAMOUS LOLOLOLOL!!1111!!one!!
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i guess i'm not very open minded because i'm not a john wayne gacy sympathizer.
Adolph Hitler was known to have engaged in heterosexual sex. Just thought you'd like to know.
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when they act on those feelings, they have the potential to ruin lives.
Did you know that most people who have experienced heterosexual date rape or homosexual prison rape found it an undesireable experience?
We must kill them. For the potential.
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I don't know enough about children's sexual development to comment further in that area.
Now you admit you're just making stuff up?!?? What took you so long, and why didn't you quit beforehand.
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I still think you shouldn't hang around kids
Hey - you're the one who respects them less than you do your dog, who you probably don't think is too stupid to successfully hump a chair leg...
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About fucking time.
Yeah, sorry it took so long... thanks for holdin' it down, holmes...
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I didn't know girllovers have a gang sign, that's dope.
We've got enough sign-based communication to trip out on a dance floor for hours, depending on what you want to say... just with the set-independent... god knows what militias have their own sign for internal use.
...but the simple 'declaration of identity' is pretty fucking useful, and funny... some bitch is mouthing off in line, one reaches forward to grab a candy bar from the display while, I dunno, scratching one's ribs or something minor... discrete, downlow, whatever...
...and you find out real quick if this "l33t gangsta pedo-trippin' banga" is, umm, fucking fake. Which, incidentally, they all are so far, but who knows...
...funny as shit. They're sooooo fucking hard, "if they ever found one they'd," but they never do shit to the guy in pink 'n blue whose hand says "GL"... lol.
...mostly because "those imaginary people on TV" are the "safe" way to look hard. It's what it's all about...
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Yeah fair enough I was just basing that off my own development and what I've heard about puberty and sexual development, I will admit I haven't put any time into researching this or thinking about it in any depth and that was poor arguing on my part. However I still wouldn't want you guys anywhere near my cousins.
That's kind of like saying "Murderers shouldn't be imprisoned, because they have the same urge to kill as we have to have adult relations."
To the degree that murder feels really fucking good, relieves stress, is completely mutual, and doesn't, like, cause immediate death or anything, I'd say you're right!
Of course, if your opinion of sexual activity is more negative than the above - say, like most people's opinions of murder - you can actually make sure it never happens to you by removing your genitals with a pair of garden shears. Then you'll be safe from your girlfriend or boyfriend ever stimulating them! Better still, you can show your pride and encourage other antisexual people by posting pics or videos for all to share!
See? It's easy! You can do it too!!
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Yeah fair enough I was just basing that off my own development and what I've heard about puberty and sexual development.
That's cool. Mad props for 'fessing, serious.
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I will admit I haven't put any time into researching this or thinking about it in any depth and that was poor arguing on my part.
If you're actually interested in further study, two possible sources for learning about the topic of developmental sexuality are parenting sites and women's sexuality sites. The former has a shitload of "omg my child is touching myself is that normal" questions every few seconds, and the latter is - blessedly, imo - seriously devoted to forming a more diverse, nuanced, and realistic view of female sexual experience based on, well, real people's experiences and peer-to-peer sharing...
...the-clitoris.com has a pretty decent archive - one of the lulziest of which, incidentally, was a consensual "child molestation" of a Gaia online member when she was about six years old by an early-adolescent female friend.
Then again? Maybe it's only funny if one is familiar with the "gb2gaia" meme, lol.
Still, I give feminism and women's sexuality sites props for integrating the good, the bad, the ugly, the wierd, and the dead-neutral without prejudice or censorship... they're sort of like erowid for the clit.
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However I still wouldn't want you guys anywhere near my cousins.
That's cool. I live my life in-tribe anyway, mostly.
The really funny thing is, since we're an integrative and non-heirarchical peer-based community, "teh pedofilia" is handled pretty much identically to what would happen if I started sexing up the dog... (okay, maybe that's only amusing if you're familiar with it - by "non-heirarchical integrative community," I mean, among other things, that the dog actually gets consulted in group decisions)...
If I started chasing the dog around while it was trying to get away, people would be pissed at me... but if I'm sunbathing by the window or something and the dog walks up and started licking my nutsack... no one would really care.
...in-tribe, anyways. We don't deal with outlanders much except for occasional trade and cultural congress... 'n that's cool.
So, don't worry. Your cousins will be fine unless they run off to live with the hippies. By which time they're probably adults anyway.
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If you're actually interested in further study, two possible sources for learning about the topic of developmental sexuality are parenting sites and women's sexuality sites. The former has a shitload of "omg my child is touching myself is that normal" questions every few seconds, and the latter is - blessedly, imo - seriously devoted to forming a more diverse, nuanced, and realistic view of female sexual experience based on, well, real people's experiences and peer-to-peer sharing...
...the-clitoris.com has a pretty decent archive - one of the lulziest of which, incidentally, was a consensual "child molestation" of a Gaia online member when she was about six years old by an early-adolescent female friend.
Then again? Maybe it's only funny if one is familiar with the "gb2gaia" meme, lol.
Still, I give feminism and women's sexuality sites props for integrating the good, the bad, the ugly, the wierd, and the dead-neutral without prejudice or censorship... they're sort of like erowid for the clit.
That's cool. I live my life in-tribe anyway, mostly.
The really funny thing is, since we're an integrative and non-heirarchical peer-based community, "teh pedofilia" is handled pretty much identically to what would happen if I started sexing up the dog... (okay, maybe that's only amusing if you're familiar with it - by "non-heirarchical integrative community," I mean, among other things, that the dog actually gets consulted in group decisions)...
If I started chasing the dog around while it was trying to get away, people would be pissed at me... but if I'm sunbathing by the window or something and the dog walks up and started licking my nutsack... no one would really care.
...in-tribe, anyways. We don't deal with outlanders much except for occasional trade and cultural congress... 'n that's cool.
So, don't worry. Your cousins will be fine unless they run off to live with the hippies. By which time they're probably adults anyway.
I probably will research it more, this has got me thinking about why I think it would be wrong and if it actually is wrong. I guess that's why I argued it, just because I've always assumed it's wrong all around but never thought a lot of why. What I meant when I said that children couldn't understand sex was that they didn't have sexual fantasies, which I've always assumed to arrive with puberty but I don't know for sure if that is the case, also how important fantasies are to sex in general. I still think it would be wrong for an adult to have even consensual sex with an eight year old, but I guess when I ask myself why I don't have a great answer, so that means I should research and think about it a bit.
Sounds like you live on a commune, what's the deal with that, hows it work?
Let's discuss where you decided it's worthwile to plunge the world into nuclear war because shit you saw on your televison set was just really, really fuckin' emo, m'kay??
I....um.....wh...what??
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Holy shit you're uneducated. You really don't know what those words mean?
The colloquial expression is "old enough to bleed," and is measured by the shedding of uterine lining and the elution of ovum for fertilization. Not surprisingly, "ovulating" and "capable of reproduction" are pretty much synonyms, and it's REEEAAALY not hard to judge whether someone woke up in a pool of menstural blood, dude. Pretty fucking obvious, in fact, and you can't miss it.
Did you NOT pay attention in health class?
Yeah, and you just threw a giant tantrum because not EVERYBODY was hating WITH you.
Wow. You're kind of an irritable prick, aren't you? Let me tell you something. I'm NOT one of those internet tough guys, who's trying to force my opinion down anyone's throat. My opinion wasn't set in stone when I came into this thread.
Let me make this clear - apparently you didn't understand, or apparently I worded the question incorrectly (english is not my first language). My questions aren't asked TO DECONSTRUCT! They're ASKED so I can LEARN SOMETHING! I wouldn't be taking part in this conversation if I didn't want to SEE THINGS ANOTHER WAY!
And I "threw a tantrum" because not "everyone was hating with me" ? I don't even know what that means, so I'm not going to comment on it.
In retrospect I suppose I did word the "physical maturity question" way, way, way off. It's frustrating online - especially if I typed something - when in my head I meant it to come off one way - but it came down completely different. (It happens frequently. Speaking face to face with someone is easier for me)
I just snapped at Mutinous Butcher not because I have anything against him - but because one of my pet peeves is when during an argument - someone states their point of view and someone else responds with "Lol! Didn't you read!" or "Precisely!". Stupid. Quit stroking each other. You took it that I had a "tantrum" - which, I can't blame you, beings the words are taken how you want to take them - but I assure you, that's not the case. It was more sarcasm/joking....I mean, wasn't that obvious? Why would I have such a harsh response to something so mundane and mediocre in real life, let alone online?
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Well I can't say Im surprised JFLC endorses (and most likely engages in) pedophilia.
DerDrache: Do you honestly believe pedophiles should be accepted in society? Would you be alright with letting the man who violated your daughter walking the streets to strike again?
I understand how you are approaching this issue, but you must understand that any criminal can be looked at in this fashion. It is likely that objectively every single criminal is really just mentally ill in some way. Unfortunately in order for us to have the best possible population for the most amount of people it is essential that we make it known that pedophilia will in no shape or form be tolerated.
I'd like to state also that I am sick of people comparing pedophiles to Hebrews during the holocaust. There is NO COMPARISON. Pedophiles are sick, degenerate and ruin the lives of countless children. They taint the lives of our next generation. They are not innocent victims.
DerDrache: Do you honestly believe pedophiles should be accepted in society? Would you be alright with letting the man who violated your daughter walking the streets to strike again?
I said nothing of the sort. I said that they should not be demonized as "sick, degenerate scum", as they have as little control over their urges as we have over ours. There are better ways to tackle the situation than just throwing them in jail.
This applies to all criminals, insofar as people should generally try to think more in terms of rehabilitation instead of just punishment.
Of course, it's vital to consider what damage that an individual has done. If a guy has killed a bunch of people, or a pedophile has violently hurt a bunch of kids, then perhaps it would be best to just do away with the perpetrator, instead of devoting resources to help him. HOWEVER, not every pedophile is violent in nature, and if there are ways to stop his problem without treating him like scum, I think it should be considered.
I said nothing of the sort. I said that they should not be demonized as "sick, degenerate scum", as they have as little control over their urges as we have over ours. There are better ways to tackle the situation than just throwing them in jail.
This applies to all criminals, insofar as people should generally try to think more in terms of rehabilitation instead of just punishment.
Of course, it's vital to consider what damage that an individual has done. If a guy has killed a bunch of people, or a pedophile has violently hurt a bunch of kids, then perhaps it would be best to just do away with the perpetrator, instead of devoting resources to help him. HOWEVER, not every pedophile is violent in nature, and if there are ways to stop his problem without treating him like scum, I think it should be considered.
So by your logic adults who rape eachother should not be punished either right? Because it is an urge?
Lets face it, everything that one does is a result of some urge or drive.
If the demonizing of pedophilia ends and pedophiles no longer feel as shunned by society, couldn't you see the disastrous results of that. If we make pedophilia socially acceptable, they will no longer be much of an inclination not to engage in those crimes.
The fact is, pedophilia is a crime because of it's effect on the victim. Survivors of child abuse are some of the most mentally damaged people who walk the earth. Is the momentary pleasure of some sick deranged man worth this kind of destruction..
So by your logic adults who rape eachother should not be punished either right? Because it is an urge?
Again, I didn't say that. The only point I've made is that pedophiles should not be villainized for the sole fact that they are pedophiles. When they commit crimes, then the issue becomes more complicated, but in general I do think rehabilitation is more important than punishment. If rehabilitation does not work or is too resource-consuming, then a form of instituionalization would be necessary. The point is: It makes no sense to punish someone for something they can't help. If you toss some pedophile offender in jail for 10 years, he'll still be driven by his urges when he's released. It's a medieval, silly response to the problem.
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The fact is, pedophilia is a crime because of it's effect on the victim. Survivors of child abuse are some of the most mentally damaged people who walk the earth.
Just because your arguments come from a place of what most would consider "good", that doesn't give you a pass to spew bullshit like JFLC. You don't need to make some absurd, unsubstantiated, and untrue statement about pedophilia victims to make a point that it is "bad". By that I mean, if your judgement that pedophilic acts are bad relies on facts about how harmful it is, then all someone has to do is show that pedophilia victims can go on to lead normal, healthy, untraumatized lives.
Again, I didn't say that. The only point I've made is that pedophiles should not be villainized for the sole fact that they are pedophiles. When they commit crimes, then the issue becomes more complicated, but in general I do think rehabilitation is more important than punishment. If rehabilitation does not work or is too resource-consuming, then a form of instituionalization would be necessary. The point is: It makes no sense to punish someone for something they can't help. If you toss some pedophile offender in jail for 10 years, he'll still be driven by his urges when he's released. It's a medieval, silly response to the problem.
They should be punished. If they were not punished then there wouldn't be much of an effective deterrent in place against them would there..?
It is not a crime to have sexual thoughts about children. If someone chronically has these thoughts then therapy is an option. I guess it's unfortunate that these people are stuck with an urge they cannot satisfy, but there are people who live with far heavier burdens.
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Just because your arguments come from a place of what most would consider "good", that doesn't give you a pass to spew bullshit like JFLC. You don't need to make some absurd, unsubstantiated, and untrue statement about pedophilia victims to make a point that it is "bad". By that I mean, if your judgement that pedophilic acts are bad relies on facts about how harmful it is, then all someone has to do is show that pedophilia victims can go on to lead normal, healthy, untraumatized lives.
Child abuse is a type of assault. It is violating someone's boundaries. I think common sense and the kind of understanding you get from living in the outside world would indicate that the majority of people do not respond well to assault, especially children who lack many of an adult's defenses and have very fragile states of mind.
You make an interesting point, although I think demonizing and punishing pedophiles is acceptable. It isn't some harmless societal taboo, it is flat out wrong and terrible.
Alright, now I see why the laws may be fucked up, and why government and law enforcement may have other motives to jail accused pedophiles. Thanks for correcting me.
But when I entered this thread, I didn't think it was about the laws.
The message I picked up from the OP was that this was about how society views pedophiles, and the unfair stigmas that are directed towards them, just for having feelings that the rest of us find distasteful.
Again, I don't view people with these feelings as sick, but I do think that they shouldn't act on them because they can (Sure, maybe not ALWAYS) hurt children.
I'm not commenting on laws, policies, etc, etc. Just that I think people who want to fuck kids should refrain from doing so.
Survivors of child abuse are some of the most mentally damaged people who walk the earth. Is the momentary pleasure of some sick deranged man worth this kind of destruction..
do you have a source?
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Really, just check google scholar or proquest or the ajp archives. There are hundreds of accredited sources about the long-term effects of sexual child abuse.
I'm surprised, considering your interest in the subject, you wouldn't be aware of at least some of them.
So by your logic adults who rape eachother should not be punished either right? Because it is an urge?
lol non sequiteur...
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If the demonizing of pedophilia ends and pedophiles no longer feel as shunned by society, couldn't you see the disastrous results of that.
Actually, yes. If these people actually had shit to lose, they might actually consider not getting laid, as opposed to the "damned if you do/damned if you don't" of the current situation.
Since this prevents the mass clogging and collapse of the prison system in a fashion similar to its collapse under the similarly-unjust drug war, this 'false tolerance' is undesireable.
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I'd like to state also that I am sick of people comparing pedophiles to Hebrews during the holocaust. There is NO COMPARISON.
...except, y'know, the fixed sign recognizeable at a distance, the construction of camps for the concentration and liquidation based solely on actual or percieved status, that sort of thing...
...funny thing; one of the main people I've worked with politically lost her whole family at Auschwitz. Apparently, it's a little disturbing to have to fight the same shit all over again...
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Pedophiles are sick, degenerate and ruin the lives of countless children.
So, how about the children you kill to use their blood in their passover rites?
After all, if it was printed in a newspaper, it must be true - right?
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And I "threw a tantrum" because not "everyone was hating with me" ? I don't even know what that means...
Well...
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If you're actually okay with____ you're FUCKED UP.
...is the construction with the arbitrary variables removed.
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Let me make this clear - apparently you didn't understand, or apparently I worded the question incorrectly (english is not my first language). My questions aren't asked TO DECONSTRUCT! They're ASKED so I can LEARN SOMETHING! I wouldn't be taking part in this conversation if I didn't want to SEE THINGS ANOTHER WAY!
Hey... that's kinda cool!
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Wow. You're kind of an irritable prick, aren't you?
Yup.
It's a lot safer.
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I....um.....wh...what??
Did you really think a technologocially-advanced people would sit back, watch their own genocide, and do nothing?
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that's not a girllover symbol.
What do the letters say in plain english?
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I probably will research it more, this has got me thinking about why I think it would be wrong...
If I may be so bold and rude as to propose a hypotheosis... probably at least in part because a lot of money has gone into trying to make you believe that...
Similarly, when the only time you've ever heard the word pedophile is when your TV slathers it all over some horrific tale of a cute loli (bound to stir warm feelings of the latent pedophilia in the viewing audience, amirite?) getting chopped to bits and stuffed in a garbage bag - well, how is that not going to fuck with someone's emotional response to the word (which behavioralists call the "conditioned stimulus" - (really really cute) chopped-up kids being the "unconditioned stimulus" with which it is paired)...
And your TV is perfectly happy to associate the word "pedophile" with whatever it thinks you'll hate, despite the fact that only a small percentage of reported adult-child sexual interaction actually involves pedophiles - about half the per-capita freqency, incidentally - and despite the fact that sadistic assailants are actually known to not be pedophiles.
(to be fair, we don't know whether nonpedophiles actually are twice as likely to have sex with a kid, or whether the reporting's just screwed up by the fact that people who get drunk and rape the first thing they can find tend to piss people off, possibly increasing reporting. dunno. Still, half the per-capita rate in cases which make it to the attention of the legal system...)
Conversely... count the number of times you've seen a media blitz with the headline "pedophile rescues dog." I'm guessing the number will come out to be "zero," though I could be wrong.
I'm guessing that whether you'd be for it, against it, neutral or otherwise without it, I'd imagine that having only ever heard the word "pedophile" in conjunction with "hacked-up cute loli" is, well... bound to fuck shit up...
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What I meant when I said that children couldn't understand sex was that they didn't have sexual fantasies, which I've always assumed to arrive with puberty but I don't know for sure if that is the case
I still think it would be wrong for an adult to have even consensual sex with an eight year old, but I guess when I ask myself why I don't have a great answer
~nods~
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Sounds like you live on a commune, what's the deal with that, hows it work?
A handful of communes and a few isolated strongholds, in fact. It's pretty cool, and I definately advise investing in a little rural property for anyone who wants to live a life based on compassion and kindness.
'cause when you dance naked around a bonfire all high on peyote in the suburbs, the neighbors sometimes get a tad bitchy.
As for how it works, the culture has two general rules-of-wrist (thank you, boondock saints)...
1. Open discussion is preferable to conflict, and...
2. Everyone's feelings and perspectives are coequally valid.
Including the dog.
We... pretty much chucked every other taboo and boundary out the window. Ya sort of have to, for this life - screaming at someone for discussing "umentionable" topics is pretty much discouraged by the whole "open discussion" bit, and throwing in things like "you're a nigger, stfu" or "you're just a kid, you don't get an opinion" is pretty much shot down by the fact that open discussion occurs from a position of equal respect...
Here's a dosing report from a group of three people who are living by about the same philosophy of nonjudgementalism, completely open discourse, and mutual love... 'n yes, the diversity (religious, orientational and more) in that group is fairly common and standard, lol...
...just about anything there would qualify as "home territory" for us, or rather close to it - though brightenbush, while being more clothing-optional than most of the food coops, which is good, is way too sXe and has a problem with dogs, which is sort of unfair and discriminatory to our zooerotic members... but still, grabbing a bunch of quick reads should let you start to get an idea of what it's like on the inside, when you mix them all together and realize that, well, we have far less boundaries, anxieties, and taboos than even most of these people, lol... should give a decent overview. Waste enough hours reading and you'll even feel like you're there.
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So? We have a lot of fucking stupid and amoral laws on the books. In this case, the dictionary and legal definitions of rape and molestation have nothing to do with each other. Stop trying to pass one off as they other.
And how some fathers out there feel about their 12 year old daughters fucking 20 year olds is of little consequence. Some father's wouldn't want their child to have sex with a negro either but I think we can both agree that's fucking stupid.
how is not wanting your daughter with teh worst race of humans on earth stupid?
If they have a kid it will take no genes from your daughter and be a sick nigger child
But when I entered this thread, I didn't think it was about the laws.
Well... that's a long and complicated story. Short version is that every thread will fragment and go in a thousand directions...
OP's post is very much about not changing the laws. On the other hand, discussions of harm caused by unethical "therapy" techniques are somewhat law-oriented, because government intervention is sort of required for the state to, well, coerce and order people to become paying clients - which brings up the whole corruption and kickbacks by which the profiteering works...
So... it depends on what tangent you're on at the moment. But you're right, the OP's post didn't advocate any legal change whatsoever.
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Really, just check google scholar or proquest or the ajp archives. There are hundreds of accredited sources about the long-term effects of sexual child abuse.
...but can you find any without bitchin' sampling flaws that still come to the conclusion you want them to say?
'cause I'll give you a pro tip - "of a community of 197 women seeking psychatric care for unwanted childhood sexual experiences" isn't exactly the most, umm... legitimate... sample source for either psychiatric outcomes in unwanted sexual experience, or any outcomes in desired experience.
Just so you know. But hey. There's always NIDA.
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Child abuse is a type of assault.
That's my definition of abusive behavior towards others, as well.
Nonetheless, "assault" is still drastically and completely off-topic, just as "date rape" is completely inaccurate in a description of normative heterosexuality, and as "mass murder" (a la shipman) is pretty fucking irrelevant to judaic people in general.
Please try not to post such randomly off-topic bullshit. Thanks.
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I think demonizing and punishing pedophiles is acceptable.
I'm sure "punishing" people for not getting laid will certainly encourage the "have-not" caste to follow your strange "abstinence-only" program.
I mean, if they didn't, they might get treated... exactly the same! Truly, your wisdom is great!
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Some people were not only trying to push us around (which is reason enough) but are actively trying to kill us.
So... tell me. If you had a shitload of eminently weaponizeable tech at your disposal and someone tried to kill you... wtf would you do??
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...but can you find any without bitchin' sampling flaws that still come to the conclusion you want them to say?
'cause I'll give you a pro tip - "of a community of 197 women seeking psychatric care for unwanted childhood sexual experiences" isn't exactly the most, umm... legitimate... sample source for either psychiatric outcomes in unwanted sexual experience, or any outcomes in desired experience.
Just so you know. But hey. There's always NIDA.
What I want them to say? You might find it hard to believe, but I neither had to participate in the research for said studies or cherry pick among them for my desired response- they all have the same conclusion regardless of what you may deem is my personal hoped for outcome while sitting at my computer.
And hey, on the flip side of that coin- not every study that points to an inconvenient conclusion for you is as stupidly conducted as you would like them to be. They don't pull from women patients in offices of their colleagues- many of them are based on testing of specified age-groups of children, or conclusions are drawn in reverse by noting the statistic of sexual child-abuse amongst young women referred into care for an separate psychological issue.
Just so you knooowww....
Tell me, if there are scientists among the pedo community searching for research to point to the opposite conclusion, how are they gathering more reliable, unbiased samples? Cuz asking four year old Betty how she feels afterwards doesn't really hold up to peer review... even if her preschool vocabulary extends further than "woof."
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It sounds to me like "ImJoePedo" is desperately looking for some kind of moral justification for his sick urges.
It sounds to me like you should shut the fuck up. There is no good and evil, or god and temptation through satan. All there is in the world is matter, energy, and causality. I want to know what pedophiles think, how they think, and why they think it. As soon as you mystify/demonize something, you've refused to understand it and draw irrational conclusions. If you can't handle free speech, go somewhere else.
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It sounds to me like you should shut the fuck up. There is no good and evil, or god and temptation through satan. All there is in the world is matter, energy, and causality. I want to know what pedophiles think, how they think, and why they think it. As soon as you mystify/demonize something, you've refused to understand it and draw irrational conclusions. If you can't handle free speech, go somewhere else.
Freedom is something that is deserved. Those who seek to abuse the weakest of our society, deserve nothing. You want causality?
Human beings want to survive and reproduce, like all animals.
Human beings will protect their offspring, like all animals.
Therefor, Pedophiles are the enemies of the offspring of Human beings.
Therefor fighting pedophiles is what Human beings must do as animals.
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So what if they are sexually mature, but have a mental handicap and cannot comprehend what they are doing. What if it's someone with the body of a 20 year old and the mind of a five year old. They're sexually mature, aren't they?
Point, mental age needs to be taken into effect too. Lines getting mighty blurry.
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