legal Pedobaiting on the software level as a security firm ;)

[new_hope]

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[CountBlah]

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Yeah, rootkits and keyloggers are totally legal

Learn ATL/MFC for UIs, it's not too difficult.

[JoePedo]

Originally Posted by new_hope

If you get the offender to download the software at what point does your actions become illegal.

...at the point you are accessing "a computer used in interstate banking," which can be as simple as having a paypal or amazon account.

Basically, you're immediately looking at federal bank-robbing charges.

Originally Posted by new_hope

at which point it wouldn't be pedobaiting but actually bringing the offender into the hands of law enforcement

...they're not going to touch unauthorized access with a ten-foot pole.

Originally Posted by new_hope

once they commit the offense you have as much right to bringing all information to public awareness about their offense as you see fit as they are the ones engaging in illegal activity

This is a common fantasy, but no, their chatting dirty with you over the internet does not magically make wiretapping/bank robbery "legal." It's not a "no, u" system, it's a "did you."

"Bringing to public awareness" = "bringing yourself to public awareness" = slapping your name all over a confession to waaaaaayyyy more federal felonies than this guy.

...and "the cause" is bullshit, by the way. We've rooted your gang off several geographic areas and we will continue until you are eradicated.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by muffins

^ you're pissing in the wind. IF you have baiters who know what the deal is and software to fuck em over its straight up entrapment

I don't think a citizen can get charged with entrapment, that's just for the cops. The legal issue to the baiter is extortion, which is the same if there's software involved or not.

[new_hope]

I think the use of software opens up alot of doors while also introducing many legal issues but none that can't be overcome with the use of proffessional legal advice and partnering with law enforcement.

edit: don't think of it as designing software to infringe on rights or break the law. Think of it as designing software for the public then working with the public to report offenders who commit violations of laws on the platform.

[JoePedo]

Originally Posted by new_hope

And it seems easier to social engineer a pedo into downloading software...

o.O

Okay, where do you think computer security FAQs come from, how do you think they get tested against competent government adversaries, and why do you think they all make porn references?

Originally Posted by new_hope

But theoretically.......you could just resort to illegal methods....

Bingo.

Originally Posted by new_hope

But for some reason it seems less unethical when taking advantage of a pedo...

Sorry to inform you, but choosing the latest PR target of government-liscensed media isn't exactly "revolutionary." It's... following a government distraction campaign.

Doesn't matter if it's pedos, jews, tutsi, or arabs. Your tax money pays for distraction and diversion.

Shoplifters, on the other hand, have the benefit of targeting corporations who act with an impunity which the government-financed ethnic scapegoating of the day cannot match. Some of them may even look up a target's actions and select appropriately - and yes, swiping jerky is in fact freegan.

If your goal is profit, however, this scheme would be muuuuuch easier and more profitable if you were to go around physically swiping laptops and hoping they left their passwords in a little unencrypted text file - or dumber still, asked asploder to fill out forms for them.

Again, not exactly legal to access someone else's bank account (or a computer used in banking), nor as revolutionary as looking up active boycotts and deciding your fiscal target appropriately to the information... but a hell of a lot easier, and you get a free laptop as collateral if there's no good information on it.

Until then, wake me when you can crack AES256.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by new_hope

I guess you could say if your gonna have someone download legitimate looking software that bugs their mics and webcam and keystrokes then you might as well pick a random civilian....not a pedophile. But for some reason it seems less unethical when taking advantage of a pedo and letting the hammer of justice reign. And it seems easier to social engineer a pedo into downloading software from legitimate looking websites to engage in conversation with their youth.

Morals, BI, so on and so forth. You're robbing someone, the fact that they have different sexual preferences doesn't justify your theft.