Requesting a dead person's birth certificate

[Lucifereus]

So I've been reading on government websites that places will give you a certified birth certificate of people that have died for a small amount of money, like $25. See:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/georgia.htm

On the bottom it says: The requestor must provide a photocopy of a valid government-issued photo ID.

So does anyone have experience with this?How exactly is it done? And can Idchief work his magic since it just asks for a photocopy?

And do you think this is a scam?
http://www.usbirthcertificate.com/go...FcTD7QodkmT8zA

[ShadyLady]

If the point is to assume the identity then it only works short term. In time, all records will be updated to deceased.

[Lucifereus]

Originally Posted by ShadyLady

If the point is to assume the identity then it only works short term. In time, all records will be updated to deceased.

It would say the person is dead, and the fake identity you created would appear as a different person with the same info? That's how I thought it worked.

[Frosty]

Get the birth cert as a template to start a new life with a new name, or make a business giving out new IDs to perps of high crimes.

[Lucifereus]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Get the birth cert as a template to start a new life with a new name, or make a business giving out new IDs to perps of high crimes.

I know, so what is the exact process of requesting a birth certificate?

[senshido]

Originally Posted by Lucifereus

So I've been reading on government websites that places will give you a certified birth certificate of people that have died for a small amount of money, like $25. See:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/georgia.htm

On the bottom it says: The requestor must provide a photocopy of a valid government-issued photo ID.

So does anyone have experience with this?How exactly is it done? And can Idchief work his magic since it just asks for a photocopy?

And do you think this is a scam?
http://www.usbirthcertificate.com/go...FcTD7QodkmT8zA

You could send them a photocopy of a fake id, this could work quite well

[Stabwound]

yeah but they could do a reverse image lookup just like tineye.com, except to a far more sophisticated degree...you would have to alter your pic a tad

[senshido]

Well perhaps in the states, anyways I am sure there is a way around it.

[La Paz]

Day of the Jackal. Best bet is to find a record of a dead baby who would be about the same age now. If they only want a photocopy, can you not use a real ID and just photoshop it? I know of this having been done successfully in the UK by John Darwin.

[senshido]

Originally Posted by La Paz

Day of the Jackal. Best bet is to find a record of a dead baby who would be about the same age now. If they only want a photocopy, can you not use a real ID and just photoshop it? I know of this having been done successfully in the UK by John Darwin.

sure absolutely

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by Lucifereus

So I've been reading on government websites that places will give you a certified birth certificate of people that have died for a small amount of money, like $25. See:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/georgia.htm

On the bottom it says: The requestor must provide a photocopy of a valid government-issued photo ID.

So does anyone have experience with this?How exactly is it done? And can Idchief work his magic since it just asks for a photocopy?

And do you think this is a scam?
http://www.usbirthcertificate.com/go...FcTD7QodkmT8zA

That is most likely a scam. Edit: It is a scam: http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/ww...ertificate.com

Cito wrote this but from my understanding, it does not work:

Originally Posted by Cito

This is what I use for id thefts

go here

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

look up any old name

results for John stone some made up name



click apply for death certificate, then use death certificate to request the birth certificate and have fun for a little while.

go for recenty dead as recent as possible

now with the name and city/state google the name and city state for obit's that local papers publish online. With the Obituary you can get next of kin names as well as even more personal info you can use to totall 100% use the info for gaining credit cards, paypal, etc in their name

Getting the death certificate isn't hard: http://health.state.ga.us/programs/v...ords/death.asp

With getting the birth certificate: http://health.state.ga.us/programs/v...ords/birth.asp you would have to pose as a relative:

Vital Records
Birth Certificates

Birth records are available from 1919 to the present. Georgia law and the Department of Community Health regulation require that all requests for vital records include the signature and picture ID of the requestor and the proper fee. Access to birth records is limited to:

* the person named on the certificate
* the parents shown on the birth record
* an authorized legal guardian or agent
* grandparents of the person named on the certificate
* an adult child of the person named on the certificate
* an adult sibling of the person named on the certificate
* the spouse of the person named on the certificate

Required Information

The person requesting a certified copy of a birth record must provide:

1. All the information below on a signed request form
* Full name of person shown on the birth certificate (last name at birth if female)
* Date of Birth (month, day, year)
* Place of Birth (city, county),
* Current age
* Sex
* Race (optional)
* Full name of mother (include mother's maiden last name)
* Full name of father
* Relationship to the person named on the birth certificate requested
* The number of certificates requested
2. A certified check or money order made payable to Vital Records Services
3. Include a photocopy of your valid photo ID, such as
* Copy of a Driver's License
* Copy of State Issued ID Card
* Copy of Employee ID Card

So, a (very) good fake id with a relative's name should work.