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11-07-2011, 04:41 PM
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Significantly Grander Duke
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Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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A Utah man hatched a creative scheme to avoid going to prison on a drug charge: He lied to authorities and said he was an illegal immigrant so he could get deported to Mexico and evade time behind bars.
The jig was up, however, when 27-year-old Jaime Alvarado returned to the U.S. using his passport and was arrested again by Salt Lake City police.
The tactic exploited a system in which law enforcement officials sometimes prefer deporting illegal immigrant offenders instead of adding to an already overloaded prison system.
At the time of his initial arrest, Alvarado claimed he was Saul Quiroz and had emigrated from Mexico illegally. He is actually an American citizen.
On Feb. 3, he admitted to a state judge that he had lied about his identity because he was afraid of leaving his daughters with an imprisoned father. He requested leniency for the crime he had pleaded guilty to prior to his deportation — a second-degree felony for possession of cocaine and heroin with the intent to distribute — that carried a prison term of up to 15 years.
"I have a good job right now, a lot of little girls waiting for me and a family that will support me," Alvarado said in a letter to the judge. "It's my first offense and my last. I want to spend the rest of my life with my kids!"
But Wednesday, Salt Lake County prosecutors charged Alvarado with an additional felony and a misdemeanor for lying about his identity in 2010 to the judge, police officers and federal immigration officers. A $50,000 warrant has been issued for his arrest, since Alvarado failed to report to state authorities in June after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers determined he was legally present in the country.
An attorney has not been appointed for Alvarado, and a current phone number cannot be located for him.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Lori Haley said the agency is aware of the case, which is still under investigation. Agency officials also said it's not infrequent for people to lie about their nationality or claim to be illegal immigrants, either to evade prosecution or avoid incarceration or conditions of probation.
Rishi Oza, an immigration attorney with the Cleveland-based firm of Robert Brown LLC, said Alvarado's plan is "not a risk I'd ever want to take because you're creating a bigger hole for yourself." Along with the additional charges leveled against Alvarado, there is also the chance that a person could be forced to serve their prison sentence and then get deported.
"I have never seen something like this happen. More often than not, the situation works the other way — a person claims to be legal to avoid detection," Oza said. "I have never seen an American citizen try to get deported."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...#ixzz1d2iGbBhF
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Interesting.
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11-07-2011, 05:01 PM
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Archduke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
he didn't avoid jail, he actually made it worse for himself. not interesting at all lol
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11-07-2011, 05:06 PM
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Knight
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by felonious_monk
he didn't avoid jail, he actually made it worse for himself. not interesting at all lol
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He could have avoided jail if he didn't go back to the US like a retard.
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11-07-2011, 05:16 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
so if i came to the US illegally, whatsthe chance i'd only face deportation if i dealt drugs to make a living and got caught? is this common or would i be more likely to get jailed then deported after? i got a funny feeling being british would work against me compared to if i was mexican.
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11-07-2011, 05:20 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Interesting indeed. Might pull this one myself if shit hits the fan.
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11-07-2011, 06:13 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Interesting indeed. Might pull this one myself if shit hits the fan.
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are you of mexican origin then?
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11-07-2011, 06:16 PM
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Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by is all mememememe with me
are you of mexican origin then?
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No but I wasn't born in America.
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11-07-2011, 06:17 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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No but I wasn't born in America.
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where are your origins then?
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11-07-2011, 06:26 PM
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Knight
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Maybe if he would of illegally entered the us they would of never caught on.
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11-07-2011, 06:26 PM
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Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by is all mememememe with me
where are your origins then?
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born in Ukraine.
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11-07-2011, 06:30 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Thats funny, instead of going to jail, get yourself deported. Yeah it sounds like they got him because he came back. He shoulda had his family deported with him.
There was a skit on on something where these Mexicans wanted to go back to Mexico for a visit so they got deported for a free bus ride.
Last edited by T.K. Baha; 11-07-2011 at 06:33 PM.
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11-07-2011, 06:35 PM
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Archduke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
that's america for you. catering to the illegals. this country is pathetic and it needs to man up
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11-07-2011, 06:36 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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born in Ukraine.
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whats the ukraine like for getting fake identities do you think? do you have any knowledge or ties from there at all?
i was thinking of maybe going to russia or one of the old soviet countries and doing this and then applying for immigration status in the US as a russian or we
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11-07-2011, 08:48 PM
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Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by is all mememememe with me
whats the ukraine like for getting fake identities do you think? do you have any knowledge or ties from there at all?
i was thinking of maybe going to russia or one of the old soviet countries and doing this and then applying for immigration status in the US as a russian or we
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Why would immigrating be easier as a Ukrainian?
But yes, fake IDs are pretty simple there if you know the right people or really just ask around.
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11-07-2011, 09:22 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by is all mememememe with me
so if i came to the US illegally, whatsthe chance i'd only face deportation if i dealt drugs to make a living and got caught? is this common or would i be more likely to get jailed then deported after? i got a funny feeling being british would work against me compared to if i was mexican.
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when they caught me they forced me to do my time first and then booted me. I would advise against it.
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11-07-2011, 09:23 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Where were you at in the US Paul?
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11-07-2011, 09:32 PM
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Baron
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by T.K. Baha
Where were you at in the US Paul?
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um... i'm not. They deported me. see 1 post above.
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11-07-2011, 09:35 PM
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Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
That was actually a genius plan.
Until he fucked it up by being a retard.
I also find it bullshit that the guy was actually trying to be a good father and look out for the well being of his kids, and they give him a harsher punishment because he used the US's own racism to his advantage.
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11-07-2011, 09:36 PM
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Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by paulbras
when they caught me they forced me to do my time first and then booted me. I would advise against it.
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lol damn you got fucked twice by Johnny Law.
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11-07-2011, 10:14 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Originally Posted by The Pat-Man
Why would immigrating be easier as a Ukrainian?
But yes, fake IDs are pretty simple there if you know the right people or really just ask around.
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because with my record i couldn't even go on vacation there. even if i used a different UK ID then prints, pix and possibly DNA would probably give me away also, especially if they had any reason to suspect. but as a russian or some other country, not only would there be no bio record of me from there, but its also a country that people generally want to emigrate from, so looks less suspicious.
the biggest problem is with the close relationship between the US/UK. american immigration can get direct access to british criminal records, making it harder. i don't think they have such easy access to records from other countries(non western at least), especially ones with shittier record systems.
craziest thing is that people from the UK can actually enter the US without a visa with the visa waiver program. you just have to fill out a form on the plane. but those forms are faxed onto the US hours ahead of the plane and by the time you land they have already checked you for a record. so once you land its just a case of checking you are who you say you are. if any record comes up then the airport is all you get to see.
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11-07-2011, 10:29 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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Where were you at in the US Paul?
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11-07-2011, 11:26 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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you lie.... i'm reporting your hacking ways to the mods.
I was in missouri when this shit when down though.
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11-07-2011, 11:35 PM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Damn. I could pull this shit off. But you fucking dummies couldn't. Fartholes.
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11-08-2011, 12:54 AM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
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I was in missouri when this shit when down though.
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cool, i know someone in ozark
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11-08-2011, 06:44 PM
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Duke
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
It's pretty funny. Dallas county is full of Mexicans, but once you make it to state jail, hardly any in comparison. They are all deported beforehand.
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11-12-2011, 01:21 AM
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Re: Man facing drug charge avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status
Wouldn't he have to still serve time before he gets deported?
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