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Old 11-21-2011, 12:08 AM
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I have a gram coming soon to play with, can't find much solid information on it though. It's supposedly a more mellow MDPV with less bad side effects, but around 4x the dose.

Have any of you tried this chem yet? Or know any good reports on it? Google hasn't turned up much. I'll be sure to post my experiences. Hoping it will be better than my MDPV experiences.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:12 AM
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Surely you mean alpha-PPP? I have experience with that. A good stimulant quite euphoric but you'll burn through your drug and your nostril for that matter pretty quickly with a only a gram.

The comedown is worse than a meth comedown IMO so be warned.
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damn even thinking about MDPV makes me want to throw up. I did like a gram a week of that shit for like 3 months until it was banned. I'm glad it was, I really think I could have killed myself from that stupid shit. Yeah I was addicted and a dumbass. I'd stay away from whatever this similar drug is, especially if you have to take 4x as much.
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Surely you mean alpha-PPP? I have experience with that. A good stimulant quite euphoric but you'll burn through your drug and your nostril for that matter pretty quickly with a only a gram.

The comedown is worse than a meth comedown IMO so be warned.
Nope, different drug.

a-PVP - alpha-pyrrolidinopentiophenone

a-ppp - alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Probably pretty similar though. Addiction is a worry, hence only ordering a gram
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I read its fair jittery and kind of like a half assed mdpv

although that was on lhg, which is nothing but faggot bluelighter rejects and scarface wannabes
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I'm getting a gram next week, only one as I had problems in the past with pv and heavy daily use.
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I bet all these rcs are going to lead to new and exciting types of cancer. I can't wait to see who gets what.
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Yeah, that's what I said about LSD back in the '40s
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Ya, because since lsd doesn't cause cancer, nothing does.
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Ya, because since lsd doesn't cause cancer, nothing does.
Nice grammar. BTW, you're a retard for thinking research chemical = carcinogen.

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I'm having fun so far. Thank you. I'll be a lab rat in the name of furthering knowledge of chemicals.
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I'm having fun so far. Thank you. I'll be a lab rat in the name of getting high, because I'll never do an actual study. I just feel the need to justify my drug use by claiming it's for "science."
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Ya, because since lsd doesn't cause cancer, nothing does.
I don't think anyone's taken enough LSD to get cancer from it. Micrograms, remember? People have to smoke for 10+ years just to get a good case of lung cancer.
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I realize lsd doesn't cause cancer, but to assume no RC's will based on that is illogical. Get one good dose of asbestos and you will get lung cancer 10 years later. Don't jump to conclusions.

Odds are doing RCs a few times won't give you cancer but you don't know that for sure, this is untested water. For all you know, RC's fuck with some unique part of your immune system, and the next time you get exposed to chickenpox your eyeballs rot out, who the fuck knows what the shit will do.

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I realize lsd doesn't cause cancer, but to assume no RC's will based on that is illogical. Get one good dose of asbestos and you will get lung cancer 10 years later. Don't jump to conclusions.

Odds are doing RCs a few times won't give you cancer but you don't know that for sure, this is untested water. For all you know, RC's fuck with some unique part of your immune system, and the next time you get exposed to chickenpox your eyeballs rot out, who the fuck knows what the shit will do.
True. That was the same fear with MDMA twenty years ago though. In any case, I don't do RC's if I can help it.
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I realize lsd doesn't cause cancer, but to assume no RC's will based on that is illogical.
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Odds are doing RCs a few times won't give you cancer but you don't know that for sure, this is untested water. For all you know, RC's fuck with some unique part of your immune system, and the next time you get exposed to chickenpox your eyeballs rot out, who the fuck knows what the shit will do.
This argument assumes all RCs are of the same toxicity. Most drug-related carcinogens alkylate DNA base pairs -- a reaction which you can effectively predict simply from the structure of the molecule and its metabolites.

Also, people with basic knowledge of structure-activity relationships can tell how a molecule is likely to act in vivo.

To assume we can know nothing about a given RCs without a peer-reviewed scientific paper is retarded. You are just posting misguided assumptions.
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Not really. I mean it does philosophically. I suppose it could cure cancer just as it could cause it. But practically when your health is on the line, its definitely safer to assume the effects would be negative.

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No, it doesn't, because it was an absurd hypothetical not meant to be taken literally.

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Also, people with basic knowledge of structure-activity relationships can tell how a molecule is likely to act in vivo.

To assume we can know nothing about a given RCs without a peer-reviewed scientific paper is retarded. You are just posting misguided assumptions.
Ok then. I mean its not like science ever condoned spraying all buildings with asbestos, or smoking, or heroin as a cure to morphine addiction or spraying entire towns with toxic pesticides, or a million other relate-able examples.

You're right. RC's couldn't possibly cause any negative health effects. I mean they know about its 'structure-activity relationships'. It must be bullet proof. They should give it out at Halloween.
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You're right. RC's couldn't possibly cause any negative health effects.
Delusions. You're the only one implying that RCs could not be detrimental to health.

SARs are not bulletproof, but they're not insignificant either.
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Delusions. You're the only one implying that RCs could not be detrimental to health.


SARs are not bulletproof, but they're not insignificant either.

For sure, maybe it'd make people like you learn a thing or two
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I'm having fun so far. Thank you. I'll be a lab rat in the name of getting high, because I'll never do an actual study. I just feel the need to justify my drug use by claiming it's for "science.".
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This exactly. At least if I OD, there will be more statistics to run off of.

Or get brain cancer in my prostate or something crazy like that.
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Or get brain cancer in my prostate .
That would be something, lol.
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I don't think anyone's taken enough LSD to get cancer from it. Micrograms, remember? People have to smoke for 10+ years just to get a good case of lung cancer.
If LSD caused cancer, there are definitely people who have taken enough to cause it. Just because your friends are pussies doesn't mean there aren't people who eat sheets for fun.
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Soooo cancer, yeah, cool. Any other actual info on the drug yet?
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Soooo cancer, yeah, cool. Any other actual info on the drug yet?
I'm getting a gram on Friday, I will be reviewing it thoroughly and will share my results.
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yep research chemicals seem pretty dangerous to me sometimes, so i pretty much stay away from alot of them too besides etizolam wich isnt an RC but its traded like one and MXE that was cool... so was the jwh018 but all those new noids are pretty wack. except the ones muffins uses his are bomb im not sure which of those they are.

theyre mostly uppers too and psychedellics, im not to big on being twacked out, but alot of its probably safer than meth...

but the psychs are for like once a year, so that leaves etizolam generic diazepines, maybe the occasional MXE and thats about it for me
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Who cares if it gives you teh cancer? alpha-PVP is awesome vaped and tastes like filthy sex, which is a damned good thing in my book. I use a flat-spoon knife-type pipe made of Pyrex. I heat the accompanying glass rod, swirl it in the alpha in my spoon as I breath in the vapors. Then, I compulsively jerk off to porn until it runs out.

Be careful tho guys, I hear jerking it too much can give you teh cancer... or did it make you go blind?
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We don't know enough about RCs to say they won't give you cancer.

Therefore, they will give you cancer?

I've come to expect some pretty retarded shit from zoklet, but this is like some grade A George Zimmerman shit.

Truth is, RCs are out there, and people are going to take them, so let our friends here at zoklet do the same so we can at least get an idea of how to handle them safely, and so that we can spread this knowledge to others -- even if it's just to get high, and even if it does give him cancer in the long run. There's no reason to go around being stupid and a cunt for no reason, so how about the lot of you fuck right off and go back to the WoW forums or something.
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a-PVP IS FUCKING EVIL SHIT... BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ITH DO NOT FORGET TO EAT AND STAY HYDRATGED. THIS SHIT MADE ME BLACK OUT AND FAINT AND FALL FACE FIRST ONTO CONCRETE. ITS NOT EVEN THAT GOOD FEELY.....USE IT FOR PARTIES LIKE AFTER YOUR DRUNK AS FUCK AND NEED TO WAKE UP. YOU WONT SLEEP FOR AT LEAST 16+ HOURS AFTER INGESTION OF ANY DOSE.
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a-PVP IS FUCKING EVIL SHIT... BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ITH DO NOT FORGET TO EAT AND STAY HYDRATGED. THIS SHIT MADE ME BLACK OUT AND FAINT AND FALL FACE FIRST ONTO CONCRETE. ITS NOT EVEN THAT GOOD FEELY.....USE IT FOR PARTIES LIKE AFTER YOUR DRUNK AS FUCK AND NEED TO WAKE UP. YOU WONT SLEEP FOR AT LEAST 16+ HOURS AFTER INGESTION OF ANY DOSE.
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Alpha PVP is a evil fucked up drug especially when mixed with L, that shit fucks with your energy so bad I couldn't even believe it. You just keep wanting to do it over and over again its like coffee but when you come off it you go crazy, worse than meth, its a fucked drug I would say steer clear my friend.
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Alpha PVP is a evil fucked up drug especially when mixed with L, that shit fucks with your energy so bad I couldn't even believe it. You just keep wanting to do it over and over again its like coffee but when you come off it you go crazy, worse than meth, its a fucked drug I would say steer clear my friend.
Sincerely agree with this guy. Its a pretty fucked up drug. But if you've already ordered it then just be curfale
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Fuck you guys, a-PVP is great, I didn't find it to be anywhere near as compulsive as MDPV, I was able to sleep at 2 AM after vaping it at 7 PM once, can you imagine doing that on MDPV?

I mean, if someone is bad about redosing with stims or just being reckless with stims in general then yeah, stay away from it, part of the moreish factor that does exist with this one is the fact that the duration is shorter than MDPV with less residual stimulation
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Fuck you guys, a-PVP is great, I didn't find it to be anywhere near as compulsive as MDPV, I was able to sleep at 2 AM after vaping it at 7 PM once, can you imagine doing that on MDPV?

I mean, if someone is bad about redosing with stims or just being reckless with stims in general then yeah, stay away from it, part of the moreish factor that does exist with this one is the fact that the duration is shorter than MDPV with less residual stimulation
word up. this stuff is not that compulsive at all. I mean I would redose through a night or somehting but i had no desire to binge or compulsively redose...
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I agree, a-pvp is great. I only vape it. I can eat on it, I can sleep within 2 hours of my last hit. I wake up without a hangover and I experience no crash.

Apparently it's much easier on the system vaping it than it is snorting it. Unfortunately, vaping is where the moreish really begins!

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