attn obbe, ate, spacecase, ethan, greyfox, etc.

[Nero]

http://theync.com/media.php?name=498...ts-still-alive

How do you feel about this?

[Proots]

LOL!

Isn't Greyfox dead, or like - close enough to dying to not make any difference?

[Nero]

I hope so.

[Vizier]

I love nature. Did you guys know hyenas are actually smarter than chimps in some regards?

[Proots]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

I hope so.

Me too.

I'm tired of the friendless, pseudo-spiritual faggot niggers that populate this website. I wipe my ass with their wanna-be fringe beliefs.

[Hydroponichronic]

lololol

[Nero]

I like showing them that the benevolent, loving Earth Goddess they picture nature to be is really and angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

I like showing them that the benevolent, loving Earth Goddess they picture nature to be is really and angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

Where did you get that idea?

Nature is all about meditation and butterflies in sunlight, grassy valleys.

[The American Gentleman]

damn nature, you scary!

[nshanin]

Abraham Hicks - Snakker om - 'Autistic Childs'.avi - YouTube

Abraham Hicks - Snakker om - 'Autistic Childs'.avi - YouTube
Video: click to display

It all comes down to choice, but this generation can't handle responsibility.

[iMagiNation]

DETTN:

http://www.humpjones.com/rear/entry/...iece_of_shit1/

[Zanick]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

I like showing them that the benevolent, loving Earth Goddess they picture nature to be is really and angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

So nature is ____? What, a personified concept?

Or is this you, likening yourself to some magical "Earth Goddess" incarnated?

[T.K. Baha]

Your are obviously not enlightened enough to see the beauty of the video, Whore to a chainsaw.

[Nero]

Originally Posted by zanick

So nature is ____? What, a personified concept?

Both interpretations are a metaphor for how nature behaves.

Originally Posted by T.K. Baha

Your are obviously not enlightened enough to see the beauty of the video, Whore to a chainsaw.

Am so.

[T.K. Baha]

Its like that old metaphor about your mom. Seeing her getting ravaged by guys she picked up from the truck stop may look horrible to you, but you gotta eat, you know? Nature is a lot like that.

[Charles Manson]

Am i the only one put off by the ammount of fucking intene hardcore porno that you just posted?

Its like automatic gangbang and screaming its fucking 1 in the morning you ass

[T.K. Baha]

1am is the perfect time for automatic gangbangings and screaming.

[Obbe]

I feel you are trying to make an indirect statement about a group of people who don't actually all share the same values you obviously would prefer us all to share.

[Nero]

This isn't about values, this is about real life. Real life isn't up for debate.

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

http://theync.com/media.php?name=498...ts-still-alive

How do you feel about this?

How do I feel about it? I didn't feel anything when watching that video, and if I did, I didn't notice.

What did I think of it? It was violent, brutal, natural, flat, visceral, plain, bestial, bloody, and strange.

Looking at it from another perspective, it was less brutal than a cat toying with a mouse. If animals are capable of sadism, the cat toying with a mouse is much more brutal than the video I just watched. I doubt these hyenas had power games in mind when eating their prey.

What the site itself makes me think of is that people who are obsessed with violence and sexuality have some deeply rooted issues. If you're the type of person who can switch between human bodies splayed on railroad tracks and nugget porn, maybe its time to step back from your daily habits and reevaluate. I can get pseudo-psychological and say that violence is an expression of sexual neglect, and that every act of sex is an act of violence, yadda yadda yadda, but to put it in plain english, I think the site you linked to mostly appeals to people with unhealthy desires.

I was going to ask you why you posted this, but you've answered that question.

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

I like showing them that the benevolent, loving Earth Goddess they picture nature to be is really and angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

I don't picture nature as a loving Earth Goddess, nor do I personify it as an angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

This is how I feel about it. Nature doesn't give a FUCK about you. I personify nature as a global consciousness/computer (bear with me). Like 2 neurons transmitting electricity with no concept of the larger idea they are communicating, nature/earth is a synergistic complex of energy and matter which is part of a much larger idea than it can understand. It doesn't give a fuck that animals die in pain, or that you found true love, it is just transmitting data. Whereas a computer manipulates data in the binary form of zeros and ones, earth manipulates data in the form of creatures consuming one another.

Originally Posted by Midge

Where did you get that idea?

Nature is all about meditation and butterflies in sunlight, grassy valleys.

Yeah, and dead mother fuckers.

10 Asubhas (Objects of Impurity):

The ten objects of impurity are various sorts of corpses. Meditating on corpses is useful is reducing lust. This practice should only be followed under the guidance of a master. Below is a list of the asubhas and who will find them useful.

Swollen Corpse: Those who lust after beauty of form.

Discolored Corpse: Those who lust after beauty of the skin and complexion.

Festering Corpse: Those who lust after a sweet-smelling body, using perfumes.

Fissured Corpse: Those who lust after the firmness and solidity of the body.

Mangled Corpse: Those who lust after fulness of the flesh, such as the breasts.

Dismembered Corpse: Those who lust after graceful movements of the body.

Cut & Dismembered Corpse: Those who lust after perfection of the joints of the body.

Blood-stained Corpse: Those who lust after beauty produced by adornments.

Worm-infested Corpse: Those who are attached to the idea that the body is "me" or "mine."

Skeleton: Those who lust after perfection of the teeth and nails.

[T.K. Baha]

I think I would rather spend my time day dreaming about women than corpses. But that is true how you said they put all these hardcore sex videos next to ones with extreme violence. It is kind of disturbing to think there is people furiously cranking one out to people getting killed and fucked in all kinds of weird and degrading ways. I can see the link between lack of sex and violence. Sex makes me anyway feel happy and content and gets rid of those RAWWRRR kind of moods you know lol. A lack of sex in a twisted head could end up in all kinds of bad places.

[Retard Synrdome]

Cordyceps: attack of the killer fungi - Planet Earth Attenborough BBC wildlife - YouTube

Cordyceps: attack of the killer fungi - Planet Earth Attenborough BBC wildlife - YouTube
Video: click to display

The Botfly - YouTube

The Botfly - YouTube
Video: click to display

Guinea Worm Disease - YouTube

Guinea Worm Disease - YouTube
Video: click to display

Nature is beautiful

[Nero]

Originally Posted by Ethan

I think the site you linked to mostly appeals to people with unhealthy desires.

What makes them unhealthy? Every single human being has the capacity to sexually enjoy violence and cruelty. It's innate in all of us. It doesn't have to be brought out through being abused as a child, as you like to tell yourself with mantra like repetition for your own reassurance. Believe me. I found out for myself.

There's nothing unhealthy about sexuality other than sexual repression. If you get off on seeing children splattered on the road, the only thing that will hurt you is feeling guilty about it based on the moralty inculcated into you by the society and culture you happened to be born into.

Denying yourself your need to masturbate to filthy pornography, instead forcing down "tasteful eroticism" and telling yourself it's "healthier" and "better" betrays a crippling guilt complex and sexually repressive tension.

[Nero]

Mmm, tasteful.

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

What makes them unhealthy? Every single human being has the capacity to sexually enjoy violence and cruelty. It's innate in all of us. It doesn't have to be brought out through being abused as a child, as you like to tell yourself with mantra like repetition for your own reassurance. Believe me. I found out for myself.

I'm not sure why you're trying to spur me. Every single human being has the capacity to sexually enjoy violence and cruelty, agreed. This is a symptom of a diseased mind. I am not saying that BDSM or other "taboo" sex acts should be banned, or even discouraged. In fact, I think it can be used as a tool to explore one's sexuality, and come to terms with one's emotions. However, the best sex is one that engages an individual, a pair, or a group, on all levels of interaction, all levels of the personality. You don't have to be spiritual, or a space junkie, or anything else, to recognize that the best sex is sex that engages someone's visceral/sensational needs, emotional needs, and mental needs. Preferences are fine. I don't have an issue with casual sex, or porno, or sadism and masochism in a sexual context, but if you're only operating on one level of personality when engaging in sex you're not getting the full experience.

There's nothing unhealthy about sexuality other than sexual repression. If you get off on seeing children splattered on the road, the only thing that will hurt you is feeling guilty about it based on the moralty inculcated into you by the society and culture you happened to be born into.

If someone gets off seeing children splattered on the road, that someone has issues, period. I understand that something being taboo doesn't make it wrong. If someone likes to degrade others or be degraded during sex, fine, but its not sexual liberation, and it doesn't lead to the healthy functioning of human emotions and tissues. Engaging in sex on multiple levels does, be it tantra, experimentation, erotic literature, or countless other methods of sexual expression.

Glorifying violence with an orgasm is not healthy. Such practice can be linked to muscular tension, or what Christopher Hyatt called "pelvic rage"
, and is not healthy for a multitude of reasons. One reason is the split personalities that result from such repression (which imo are the cause of conflict on all scales, between people, groups, and countries, as well as arguments, fights, and war)

Another reason violent sexual activity is not healthy is because over time, repeating these tired patterns creates chronic tension in the musculature, which leads to ischemia (tissue not properly oxygenated) which eventually results in disease.

Denying yourself your need to masturbate to filthy pornography, instead forcing down "tasteful eroticism" and telling yourself it's "healthier" and "better" betrays a crippling guilt complex and sexually repressive tension.

You make a point, but I get the feeling you are directing this at me personally, as if you are certain that I'm akin to Beavis and Butthead's hippie teacher.

Guess what, I masturbate to filthy pornography, and most of the "spiritual" people I know are just as fucked up as anyone else, probably because they deny their dark side.

I also get the feeling that you posted the pornographic picture with the hopes that I could censor it and prove to you my own sexual shame and repression. Posting that picture was crude, cheap, and immature, like most pornography. *fap fap fap*

“If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[nshanin]

You're ignoring the studies done on the relation between chronic masturbation and escalating sexual extremes. Hardcore masturbators (lol) are often counseled to avoid doing so for weeks in order to "reset" the sex drive; at the end of it they always find themselves aroused by milder sex. BDSM is therapy for many women, but it can wreck a man. In any case a man should practice (white) tantra and making love before BDSM with their partner as the former will result in higher vibratory states and represent the main goal of sexual expression in a relationship. Glorifying in the death of others is lusting for blood; a lust to be abandoned like any lust.

Empathetic acceptance is the way love has been practiced since forever, before you try using fear, pain, and hatred to enhance your sex life, try love. It *works* and the backwards path (example in a spiritual context) is not for everyone.

I once asked a wise man for advice relating to sexuality. He told me "don't spill your seed". These are very true words for those seeking/arriving at enlightenment.

[AngryOnion]

Originally Posted by Charles Manson

Am i the only one put off by the ammount of fucking intene hardcore porno that you just posted?

Its like automatic gangbang and screaming its fucking 1 in the morning you ass

fUCKING lolol,This comment coming from Charles Manson of all people.

[iMagiNation]

Originally Posted by nshanin

I once asked a wise man for advice relating to sexuality. He told me "don't spill your seed". These are very true words for those seeking/arriving at enlightenment.

It's great advice except it's impossible to fully follow. Have you ever tried serious celibacy for an extended period? Eventually you run into the problems of wet dreams, and then if you're really serious about being sexually disciplined in order to achieve spiritual purposes then you're going to end up in a serious funk because you keep failing. I think that there is a middle ground, neither white or black tantra, but rainbow.

[nshanin]

I think sexual discipline is a nice complement to spirituality but really all that's needed is avoidance of sexual extravagance.

I am going to attempt rainbow tantra during my next experimental phase; expect results soon.

[Zanick]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

What makes them unhealthy? Every single human being has the capacity to sexually enjoy violence and cruelty. It's innate in all of us. It doesn't have to be brought out through being abused as a child, as you like to tell yourself with mantra like repetition for your own reassurance. Believe me. I found out for myself.

There's nothing unhealthy about sexuality other than sexual repression. If you get off on seeing children splattered on the road, the only thing that will hurt you is feeling guilty about it based on the moralty inculcated into you by the society and culture you happened to be born into.

Denying yourself your need to masturbate to filthy pornography, instead forcing down "tasteful eroticism" and telling yourself it's "healthier" and "better" betrays a crippling guilt complex and sexually repressive tension.

I think he means to say they are unhealthy because they will not be satisfied physically until they seize the initiative. Such an individual might begin mowing down children in the streets, wanking madly in my car. Or instead, this person may simply keep to themselves, annoyed at how cautious children are crossing the street. "Real life" would have it so that their preferences are not acceptable to express within our society. They would struggle immensely with how much from each paycheck gets spent on any prostitutes willing to put up with the risks involved, or else power tools and department store mannequins.

So you believe that nature has features which can be described in relation to our experience. Would you say that humans, by nature, can learn to enjoy violence and cruelty?

[Myxomatosis]

Originally Posted by nshanin

Abraham Hicks - Snakker om - 'Autistic Childs'.avi - YouTube

It all comes down to choice, but this generation can't handle responsibility.

That stupid bitch is fucking retarded.

She is creating sense out of non-sense.

There is NO fucking way that you have a "physical view of the body you're coming into"

[Ethan]

You're metaphysically challenged.

[Nero]

Originally Posted by nshanin

You're ignoring the studies done on the relation between chronic masturbation and escalating sexual extremes. Hardcore masturbators (lol) are often counseled to avoid doing so for weeks in order to "reset" the sex drive; at the end of it they always find themselves aroused by milder sex. BDSM is therapy for many women, but it can wreck a man. In any case a man should practice (white) tantra and making love before BDSM with their partner as the former will result in higher vibratory states and represent the main goal of sexual expression in a relationship. Glorifying in the death of others is lusting for blood; a lust to be abandoned like any lust.

But you can't talk about any of this because none of it has been experienced by you first hand. I've tried your concept of love, have you tried mine? Because any kind of traditional, Western-style romance has no place in BDSM until after. That's why it's called "aftercare". Because "beforecare" would kill any desire to play with pain and power.

You only feel that love because you're scared to be real. You'd rather be a domesticated animal than nurture the creature you were born as. Once you go where I've been, you'll never look back, save to kick yourself for ever being so gullible.

My senses have received input of pain, torture, violence and death. This has produced arousal resulting in orgasm many times. There is no hate involved. I can't even convey to you what it feels like, other than "amazing". If you actively transform yourself with physical practice, meditation and reading philosophy, a whole new world will open up to you. You will finally feel free of that overbearing force that makes you judge yourself as good/bad or right/wrong and you will no longer need to change your behaviour to impress it. You'll reailze that it's just you (I mean you will really realize, not the fake "I listen to Tool and enjoy looking at fractals" realize). And, rather than seeing it as a polar opposite of "enlightenment", I've found that zen philosophy and meditation can bring this feeling out in people more than anything else I've tried. Also the Marquis de Sade. And LSD.

There is no negative feeling involved in that kind of sexual pleasure. Hate, anger and bitterness are emotions that make you feel threatened and weakened. What I do is best enjoyed with calm and clinical detachment.

You've never tried it. I assume when you think of it, you imagine a psychologically stunted person lusting psychotically, anxiously and unhealthily after something "wrong". You like to think that this person is out of control, unhappy and driven by only "base" needs outside of their control. You like to think you're better than them.

I'd say, sexually, you're a lot less healthier than someone like John Wayne Gacy. To not spill your seed for religious/spiritual reasons is one of the most frightening concepts conceivable to me. That's a ridiculously agonizing degree of sexual repression and guilt. It must taunt you that even nature is telling you, by way of nocturnal emissions, that she doesn't sympathize with your 21st century humanist values. That you're just an animal who's been domesticated into a house pet. A house pet with a platform like the internet on which to construct ego-driven fantasies about being ego-less. You think you're special, with your limited human body, limited human mind and general lack of utility or worth. Nature, everything that you are, would randomly strike you down with a tumor and not give a fuck. You are just organic matter. You're plant life, except you have the capacity to eat, shit, fart, piss, vomit, ejaculate, feel emotions and be an idiot.

The masturbatory part is wrong. Sure, you need to intensify your stimulus if you masturbate too much. But that won't change your sexual interests. If you aren't into BDSM when you are horny, it's not going to be any more appealing when you're less horny. You will resort to more extreme things within the realm of what you already like. That's how sexuality functions. Besides, once a day would be frequent for me. Sorry.

Originally Posted by zanick

I think he means to say they are unhealthy because they will not be satisfied physically until they seize the initiative. Such an individual might begin mowing down children in the streets, wanking madly in my car. Or instead, this person may simply keep to themselves, annoyed at how cautious children are crossing the street. "Real life" would have it so that their preferences are not acceptable to express within our society. They would struggle immensely with how much from each paycheck gets spent on any prostitutes willing to put up with the risks involved, or else power tools and department store mannequins.

I know what you mean, but you're making the assumption that just because a person's tastes are "extreme", the degree to which they desire them and the means they'll go to to satisfy them must also be extreme. You probably know a lot of closet pedophiles, scat lovers, homosexuals, piss drinkers, masochists, people with incest fantasies, etc, etc. Without even going that far, there are lots of normal heterosexual people who just masturbate to images on their computer.

Originally Posted by zanick

Would you say that humans, by nature, can learn to enjoy violence and cruelty?

No. You already can enjoy it. You were born that way. It's part of being human. What you have to do is decondition yourself to get back to that state. Disregard the sentiments that were put in you by the culture of your time and place, ridiculously unnatural concepts like the nuclear family, compassion, altruism and "love". You haven't touched love until you've been here.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Ethan

Guess what, I masturbate to filthy pornography, and most of the "spiritual" people I know are just as fucked up as anyone else, probably because they deny their dark side.

The first mistake is denial of anything, and the second is the division of a dark and not-dark and light and not-light side and sides. This is one of the plethora of reasons I dislike self professed "spiritual" types". It isn't that I think they are going to far out, that they are using unscientific assertions and mystical terminology to fling their bullshit much further than it should be flying... it is that they don't go far enough. They put a barrier between everything they do by bastardizing everything they encounter, subjectively moralizing it, simplifying it then justifying it with a linguistic paradox, then wind up doing exactly what the rest of the species does on a day to day basis except with the possible addition of some meditation and a pretentious use of an otherwise kickass plant. Obviously this rant is a gross over-generalization and assumption, but no more an assumption than those that many of you would apply to someone like Chi. So fuck you.

I would think that for someone who is obviously versed in psychology and crowleyism and such you would be all for the controlled extension of Will into novel pursuits. Whilst someone may get off on car accidents, the environment doesn't permit it outside of fantasy given that they will be taken down by society if they try and enact it. The only objection that I can see being made to this is moralized. I don't think this taste should be evangelized, but if someone wants to play in that playground then why ruin his fun? Although that isn't really possible using the very methods of argument that they derive sexual pleasure from blaspheming and shitting all over.

[Nero]

I don't think I'm evangelizing. I think I'm attacking the same pseudospiritual sentiments that you're attacking. I could be lying to myself though.

[Nero]

I think I'm more of a masochist, anyway.

[Nero]

Yeah. I think the only way to put forward my nihilistic philosophy is to use sexual sadism as the conduit. Nobody would pay attention to scatology as a self-exploratory or philosophical tool, for example. And being a masochist isn't as existentially threatening.

There's something purely iconoclastic about sadistic behaviour.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

I like showing them that the benevolent, loving Earth Goddess they picture nature to be is really and angry, callous, random, selfish, vindictive bitch.

*gives up on spirituality*

*sells Jerry Garcia records*

[Nero]

Fractals and Jerry Garcia? Don't you feel a little pathetic about constructing an identity for yourself based on cliches and fads? I'd hate to be that easy to pigeonhole.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by whore to a chainsaw

Fractals and Jerry Garcia? Don't you feel a little pathetic about constructing an identity for yourself based on cliches and fads? I'd hate to be that easy to pigeonhole.

Any constructed identity is false. You should know that.