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Old 12-07-2011, 04:04 PM
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I have an opportunity to purchase a stolen iphone 4s dirt cheap. I know the carrier is sprint and since then the seller has removed the sim card. I have a few questions.

Can you get into the phone without the password and with restoring it to factory settings?

If I do restore it to factory settings and use my sim card can my carrier or the original owner tell if its their stolen phone?

If they can tell it's a stolen phone despite restoring and replacing the sim could I just use it as an ipod touch? Can they trace it if there's no sim in it whatsoever?

Since the sprint is CDMA(no sim cards) I was surprised to see the seller open the sim port and remove the microsim card belonging to sprint. Does removing the sim remove sprint completely or will it still work without the sim card?

Thanks for your answers.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:44 PM
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Seeing as noone has helped out yet, I may aswell. First off no you can't get past the passcode, while there is a glitch that allows for you to reach the phonebook, recent calls etc. it isn't possible to get past a 'forgotten passcode' without a reset, which is only possible on the computer it was activated with.

If the phone has a sim, it shouldn't be CDMA, (forgive me if I'm wrong, it's different here in the UK) which is a good thing for you. It means that even if the original owner has the phone blocked, (which is likely) you can just have a quick IMEI change and use a different sim card. This basically makes the phone unidentifiable as the original.

Back to the password however; if it does have a passcode then I recommend you take it to a specialist (the shadier the better), tell them you forgot the password and the computer you registered it with was sold recently. Hopefully they will be able to restore it to factory settings for you, if not then you could probably try finding online software to do this for you, though you run the risk of bricking it.

And no, you can't just use it sim free as an ipod touch, the phone won't boot up without a sim in it.

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Old 12-07-2011, 06:04 PM
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Don't forget that the iPhone 4 (and probably 4S) has smaller SIM cards than other phones. When I got mine I had to get a specially programmed SIM card from the shop that sold me the phone. I don't know how they program it but they did it between me coming into the shop and leaving.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:52 PM
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If the phone has a sim, it shouldn't be CDMA, (forgive me if I'm wrong, it's different here in the UK) which is a good thing for you. It means that even if the original owner has the phone blocked, (which is likely) you can just have a quick IMEI change and use a different sim card. This basically makes the phone unidentifiable as the original.
Whats CDMA? Don't all cellphones have SIM cards? As for the computer, there must be a way to spoof the system that iPhone uses to detect what computer its connected to.
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:14 PM
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Whats CDMA? Don't all cellphones have SIM cards? As for the computer, there must be a way to spoof the system that iPhone uses to detect what computer its connected to.
GSM and CDMA are the two network systems in America, GSM phones allow for interchangable sim cards, whereas CDMA don't have sim cards.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:35 PM
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If the phone has a sim, it shouldn't be CDMA, (forgive me if I'm wrong, it's different here in the UK) which is a good thing for you. It means that even if the original owner has the phone blocked, (which is likely) you can just have a quick IMEI change and use a different sim card. This basically makes the phone unidentifiable as the original.
How do you change the IMEI?
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:10 AM
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Seeing as noone has helped out yet, I may aswell. First off no you can't get past the passcode, while there is a glitch that allows for you to reach the phonebook, recent calls etc. it isn't possible to get past a 'forgotten passcode' without a reset, which is only possible on the computer it was activated with.

If the phone has a sim, it shouldn't be CDMA, (forgive me if I'm wrong, it's different here in the UK) which is a good thing for you. It means that even if the original owner has the phone blocked, (which is likely) you can just have a quick IMEI change and use a different sim card. This basically makes the phone unidentifiable as the original.

Back to the password however; if it does have a passcode then I recommend you take it to a specialist (the shadier the better), tell them you forgot the password and the computer you registered it with was sold recently. Hopefully they will be able to restore it to factory settings for you, if not then you could probably try finding online software to do this for you, though you run the risk of bricking it.

And no, you can't just use it sim free as an ipod touch, the phone won't boot up without a sim in it.

Hope I helped.
Man if you don't know what you're talking about, don't post.

You can put the phone into DFU mode and restore it, getting past the passcode. The phone will be erased though, and if you wanted any info from the previous owner - you can't get it. That's problem one solved. (Google DFU mode)

iPhone 4S is technically a 'world' phone, it has the CDMA chipset and GSM as well, (the sim card slot). If it's Sprint, it is locked though, and you can't get it unlocked from Apple or Sprint (3rd party solutions MAY become available, but none are out yet). So, I hope you're using Sprint.

I'm pretty sure Sprint will block IMEI/ESN #s from phones reported stolen/lost/insurance claimed. I know Verizon does, but AT&T DOES NOT. Since Verizon/Sprint are CDMA, AT&T is GSM, that is where I'm drawing my reference from. I know for a fact Verizon bans ESN #s, and AT&T does not, but 95% sure about Sprint following Verizon. There is no way to change the ESN.

Nothing you do to your iPhone will brick it essentially, so don't worry about restoring/recovery mode/DFU mode/whatever. And no program or person will be able to get past the passcode lock, they fixed all those bugs. The only option is restoring it.


In short (just googled): I wouldn't buy it. Sprint DOES ban ESN #'s. If you have Sprint/Verizon then chances are the owner reported it lost/stolen. If you restore it, you will need it activated or have a valid-sim card to put in it (which may not even work because it is not unlocked) to get past the activation screen and use it as an iPod touch. If you have AT&T, that'd be better but since it is originally a Sprint phone it is locked to Sprint and there is currently NO way to get it to work on AT&T.

If it's an AT&T iPhone that is stolen and you have AT&T, then yes, buy it and use it. Otherwise, stay away.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:36 AM
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The iPhone 4s is a shit phone.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:09 AM
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The iPhone 4s is a shit phone.
ur an idiot.


my friend has stolen a lot of iPhones, at&t and verizon.

one time he forgot to turn off iPhone and take the sim card on like she normally does. she left it under her bed knowing that they can locate the phone on gps. she just forgot.
well around 1:30 am she was awoken by her parents because the pigs knocked on door saying that they tracked an iPhone and it said it was at this location. half asleep she denied to her parents that she had an iPhone and didn't know what they were talking about. the parents told pigs that and they left. and thats the last she herd about that.... whoa
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:15 AM
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If you are purchasing a Sprint phone, be aware that there is no SIM card. If the original owner reports the iPhone as stolen, then Sprint will blacklist the ESN (the "sim") and you won't be able to activate the phone on Sprint(or verizon, I think) anymore.
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If you are purchasing a Sprint phone, be aware that there is no SIM card. If the original owner reports the iPhone as stolen, then Sprint will blacklist the ESN (the "sim") and you won't be able to activate the phone on Sprint(or verizon, I think) anymore.
I know sprint phones are cdma but when I ejected the sim slot there was a mirco sim from sprint there.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:57 PM
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Once, I restored an iPhone on my PC fine, I didn't have to enter any password. Hopefully the person doesn't have the "Find my iPhone" app.
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:06 PM
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If it's not cdma just use tinyumbrella and redsnow to reflash and jailbreak it. Otherwise I wouldn't risk getting tracked down. Iphones suck, but jailbroken they suck considerably less. I got one for free and that beats paying for an android phone.
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Man if you don't know what you're talking about, don't post.

You can put the phone into DFU mode and restore it, getting past the passcode. The phone will be erased though, and if you wanted any info from the previous owner - you can't get it. That's problem one solved. (Google DFU mode)

iPhone 4S is technically a 'world' phone, it has the CDMA chipset and GSM as well, (the sim card slot). If it's Sprint, it is locked though, and you can't get it unlocked from Apple or Sprint (3rd party solutions MAY become available, but none are out yet). So, I hope you're using Sprint.

I'm pretty sure Sprint will block IMEI/ESN #s from phones reported stolen/lost/insurance claimed. I know Verizon does, but AT&T DOES NOT. Since Verizon/Sprint are CDMA, AT&T is GSM, that is where I'm drawing my reference from. I know for a fact Verizon bans ESN #s, and AT&T does not, but 95% sure about Sprint following Verizon. There is no way to change the ESN.

Nothing you do to your iPhone will brick it essentially, so don't worry about restoring/recovery mode/DFU mode/whatever. And no program or person will be able to get past the passcode lock, they fixed all those bugs. The only option is restoring it.


In short (just googled): I wouldn't buy it. Sprint DOES ban ESN #'s. If you have Sprint/Verizon then chances are the owner reported it lost/stolen. If you restore it, you will need it activated or have a valid-sim card to put in it (which may not even work because it is not unlocked) to get past the activation screen and use it as an iPod touch. If you have AT&T, that'd be better but since it is originally a Sprint phone it is locked to Sprint and there is currently NO way to get it to work on AT&T.

If it's an AT&T iPhone that is stolen and you have AT&T, then yes, buy it and use it. Otherwise, stay away.
Excuse me if I didn't read this well, but can't he put just an at&t or other gsm in and still use it? I'm sure sprint's blacklist doesn't apply to all carriers, so the phone would just use gsm channels right?
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