I have less than absolutely nothing, what do I do?

[Gor]

There is a thread asking what you would do if you had absolutely nothing. Unfortunately I have more and less than nothing at the same time. Right now I am about to start another semester at a community college that I hate. I have several minor misdemeanors on my record which have resulted in a lack of full driving "privileges" for about 6 more months. My car is totaled and because I go to school for 18-19 credit hours a week it is unrealistic for me to have a job, so I really don't have money.

The thing is I hate where I am and my life here but I don't know how to get out of it without living like a bum for the next decade. I can't get a degree at my college because I'm going for psych. and it's only a transfer program so even if I finish I will not be able to earn more, and when I do finish the transfer I will NOT be able to afford going to a 4 year college. I used to work at a factory which paid decent but it was the shittiest work, extremely bad for health. But I also have worked retail, which was pleasant but would be really, really hard to scrape a living off of. I wouldn't really make headway with retail and factory sorts of jobs require years of work before people are promoted to where they have some financial freedom, which isn't something I want to do for a type of work I don't enjoy.

Can people in my sort of situation live free? I just don't see how I could survive even if I took a "bad ideas" sort of route, which I would love to do for the excitement and fun. I have been working out/running really hard for the last 6 or more months (and am in good shape) because I fantasize about living as an outlaw. If I don't make it though, I starve, and my family, who I live with to go to school, would never help me out again if I failed out of this sort of lifestyle. But with each semester my debt grows. I have about one or two weeks to see if I have the balls to walk out and live my dream life, but I probably don't.

What would you do?

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

I saw the title of your post and thought, oh this guy must be married with kids or something.

Prison is free.

[L33tz]

go big or go home homie

[dyrtybyrd]

Coming from a college grad , from a shithole town, came from next to nothing, who paid his own way through college with jobs/loans/etc, get the FUCK off of this site and get on something more constructive like a JOB HUNT or a site that will actually help better your life, or at least give you SOME glimmer of hope. You've got to be a fucking idiot coming here for information like that. Hell, get the fuck out of the house and try to do some networking. You think everyone of these people is the most successful in life? So, you come here for advice? Yeah, drug, scam, and alternative thinking forum...Good choice. God damn, you're stupid!

PS. Lose your half your family in a car accident, then come to me about having absolutely nothing you fucking immature prick.

[BoneThugJones]

The summer is coming up stick it out for 3 months then get a job and a hustle over summer you can net like 10k. Then from there just go to school keep hustling save up some cash. You can get a loan banks just hand them out. You just can't dick around when you get out and have to pay the loan off quick. Live off your cash in college your last 2 years youll be like 40k in debt max which isn't too bad because you'll get a job making much more than that. Live cheap for 5 years pay it all off by then you'll be making even more and you'll be like 27 and pretty rich.

I guess people think that's a boring life now but I don't know it sure as shit beats living almost anywhere else.

[dyrtybyrd]

Originally Posted by Lord Tolkermort

The summer is coming up stick it out for 3 months then get a job and a hustle over summer you can net like 10k. Then from there just go to school keep hustling save up some cash. You can get a loan banks just hand them out. You just can't dick around when you get out and have to pay the loan off quick. Live off your cash in college your last 2 years youll be like 40k in debt max which isn't too bad because you'll get a job making much more than that. Live cheap for 5 years pay it all off by then you'll be making even more and you'll be like 27 and pretty rich.

I guess people think that's a boring life now but I don't know it sure as shit beats living almost anywhere else.

THAT^ I financed nearly half of my college through FEDERAL loans. The other half I financed by using my fucking brain and hustling. Loans are easy to get if you're a full-time student, no matter family income. They give you a long ass time to pay them back if you need it with flexible monthly payments. Hell, if you're poor, or youre parents don't claim you on their tax returns, you can apply for GRANTS (don't have to be paid back).

[SBTlauien]

The problem with getting a degree is that there are all these online schools and trade schools handing them out, so they really don't say much. There are a lot of kids coming out of college finding this out the hard way and getting stuck with a low paying job.

[poast-bortem!]

Hit the road.

[dyrtybyrd]

Originally Posted by SBTlauien

The problem with getting a degree is that there are all these online schools and trade schools handing them out, so they really don't say much. There are a lot of kids coming out of college finding this out the hard way and getting stuck with a low paying job.

I understand what you're saying BUT, when they weed out the bullshit and start looking at details, do you think they will jump to hire someone with a fucking degree from "DeVry online college" or a fucking BA from The University of Alabama. And just about the only people I know that don't have jobs right now, a year out of college, never really had the drive to get one to begin with.

Edit: NO offense to ANYONE with a degree from DeVry University. More power to ya!

[TreyDay]

Read your post. Only problem is no ride to school. Take a bus or catch a ride. As far as your feelings get medical attention.

[sepht]

Originally Posted by Gor

There is a thread asking what you would do if you had absolutely nothing. Unfortunately I have more and less than nothing at the same time. Right now I am about to start another semester at a community college that I hate. I have several minor misdemeanors on my record which have resulted in a lack of full driving "privileges" for about 6 more months. My car is totaled and because I go to school for 18-19 credit hours a week it is unrealistic for me to have a job, so I really don't have money.

The thing is I hate where I am and my life here but I don't know how to get out of it without living like a bum for the next decade. I can't get a degree at my college because I'm going for psych. and it's only a transfer program so even if I finish I will not be able to earn more, and when I do finish the transfer I will NOT be able to afford going to a 4 year college. I used to work at a factory which paid decent but it was the shittiest work, extremely bad for health. But I also have worked retail, which was pleasant but would be really, really hard to scrape a living off of. I wouldn't really make headway with retail and factory sorts of jobs require years of work before people are promoted to where they have some financial freedom, which isn't something I want to do for a type of work I don't enjoy.

Can people in my sort of situation live free? I just don't see how I could survive even if I took a "bad ideas" sort of route, which I would love to do for the excitement and fun. I have been working out/running really hard for the last 6 or more months (and am in good shape) because I fantasize about living as an outlaw. If I don't make it though, I starve, and my family, who I live with to go to school, would never help me out again if I failed out of this sort of lifestyle. But with each semester my debt grows. I have about one or two weeks to see if I have the balls to walk out and live my dream life, but I probably don't.

What would you do?

you have a roof over your head, food to eat, and an education you spoiled brat

[Lanny]

Sell your passport, SS card and BC. Use the money to buy camping supplies and take a trip across the country. That's my plan if I ever fuck things up too bad to be repaired. They'll call me Alexandra Supertramp!

[dyrtybyrd]

^! Instead, Gor would rather come here and fill up the board with his pity party. Sounds to me like you have a family, food, and a roof over your head every night. Trey summed it up. You really only have one main problem right now. Life could be worse you unappreciative son of a bitch. At least someone cared enough to raise you with enough sense to make it far in life as college. Now it's YOUR fucking turn to make shit happen.

[SBTlauien]

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

I understand what you're saying BUT, when they weed out the bullshit and start looking at details, do you think they will jump to hire someone with a fucking degree from "DeVry online college" or a fucking BA from The University of Alabama. And just about the only people I know that don't have jobs right now, a year out of college, never really had the drive to get one to begin with.

Edit: NO offense to ANYONE with a degree from DeVry University. More power to ya!

But with the economy bound to stay in the shitter(most likely for a long long time), if you're not going for the right degree and you don't keep your grades up, along with keeping a clean record and having a passion and all that shit, a degree wont really pay off. From the sounds of it, yours might not pay off...

Who's paying for your college?

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by SBTlauien

But with the economy bound to stay in the shitter(most likely for a long long time), if you're not going for the right degree and you don't keep your grades up, along with keeping a clean record and having a passion and all that shit, a degree wont really pay off. From the sounds of it, yours might not pay off...

Who's paying for your college?

IDK, this isn't really a great way to look at college. I mean, yes, an education normally makes you more money over your career, but you shouldn't really decide how to live your life based on financial gain. I know tons of people who go to college because they were born in a middle class family, and that's what expected of them, not because they have any love for their field of study. If you wouldn't go to college for no credit you shouldn't go to college at all if you ask me.

[Gor]

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

^! Instead, Gor would rather come here and fill up the board with his pity party. Sounds to me like you have a family, food, and a roof over your head every night. Trey summed it up. You really only have one main problem right now. Life could be worse you unappreciative son of a bitch. At least someone cared enough to raise you with enough sense to make it far in life as college. Now it's YOUR fucking turn to make shit happen.

Appreciation? I don't see why I or anyone else has to appreciate living in this world. No, you may bring your morals here if you want but your argument is weak. Obviously I'm glad that everyone who did post took the time too.

I was hoping for criminal career advice. I can stop posting about this, I didn't mean to make people rage people with a sob story, that wasn't what I was trying to do.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by Gor

Appreciation? I don't see why I or anyone else has to appreciate living in this world. No, you may bring your morals here if you want but your argument is weak. Obviously I'm glad that everyone who did post took the time too.

I was hoping for criminal career advice. I can stop posting about this, I didn't mean to make people rage people with a sob story, that wasn't what I was trying to do.

Crime doesn't pay kid .

[is all mememememe with me]

you could do some online selling(not scamming), ebay selling, dropshipping, that sort of thing. you'll still need to put the time in but you can chose your hours. in fact its very flexible like that.

[ZeroMalarki]

First world problems

/thread

Realistically, get yourself the fuck out of America and get to Europe.

[dyrtybyrd]

Thanks SBTlauie, you little shitstain of life! I, as a matter of fact, graduated from The University of Alabama May '10 with a BA from the School of Business and Commerce Administration w/ an additional 15-hr sales specialization, on top of a Computer Science minor. Anyway, I'm doing just fine. It took me about 3 months to find a GREAT job out of college with a General Contractor. Is that what I LOVE to do? Is that related to what my DEGREE was in school? FUCK no, I'm on a construction site all day looking after smelly mexicans, BUT it's a fucking job with a fairly decent steady paycheck. I drank, did drugs, among God knows what else during college, didn't give a shit about being that "good" student with good grades and shit...You just have to give a little bit of a shit about yourself! Get your damn self-esteem out of the gutter and go out and fuck a girl tonight or something. As for morals, Gor, no one said anything pertaining to "right or wrong conduct". I stated facts that you provided and assessed a situation. Stay in school

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

I truly can't begin to fathom how you consider your situation as having "less than absolutely nothing". Ungrateful motherfucker.

[dyrtybyrd]

Exactly what I was referring to when I called him unappreciative. Then Gor tried to turn it into some moral sermon and say my argument was weak. I did not provide the arguments for said situation my friend, you did.

[Arcade]

18-19 hours a week is nothing...even if you put in another 15 for studying you can easily hold down a part time job, what are you gonna do when it's time to start a career and you have to work 40-60 hours a week?

[dyrtybyrd]

Arcade, he's referring to 18-19 semester credit hours. Not the actual time he devotes to his class/classwork. I was a shithead in school and still spent an extra 10-20 or so hours a week completing case studies, homework, among other group assignments, etc.

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

That is still plenty of time for a part-time job IMO. That's why Arcade said even if he throws in an extra 15 hours for studying. He just does not want to do that.

[dyrtybyrd]

True statement LSD. I only had a PT job for almost a year when I was in college. I drank and did too many drugs to try and focus on school AND work. Grades suffered because the social life didn't, haha. But yea, maybe this kid should just dropout and scam/thieve. His situation is obviously unbearable. Suicide?

[Gor]

Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry

I truly can't begin to fathom how you consider your situation as having "less than absolutely nothing". Ungrateful motherfucker.

People aren't the same, you might love to be in a situation I don't. Some people would love to do the college, 9-5 life and all that, but I'm not happy with it. It's not that I want something more, it's that I want something different.

I might be ungrateful, but I can live with that. I cannot, or will not, however, live an unhappy life. I enjoyed various crimes that I have done in the past (note I have been prosecuted so I'm not admitting to stuff I didn't do mods). Okay maybe I'm not very good at it but whatever.

When people don't have very much stuff, and are dirt poor, I always hear people quote stuff like "it's the feeling that counts" or whatever. Well I'm not really poverty type of poor, but I don't have shit for feelings. I don't want to be ungrateful and feel I might have put too much of myself out here too early. It's just really easy to do behind the mask of the internet in a place like this.

[ArmsMerchant]

I would do what I do now, which is follow the advice of Jesus--"seek first the kingdom of heaven--all else will be added to you."

In other words, look to your spiritual life and your physical life will take care of itself. At least, this is my experience.

Be advised you already have everything you need. Nothing outside of yourself will save you; nothing outside of yourself can harm you.

[Gor]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

I would do what I do now, which is follow the advice of Jesus--"seek first the kingdom of heaven--all else will be added to you."

In other words, look to your spiritual life and your physical life will take care of itself. At least, this is my experience.

Haha yes. I believe in and have been practicing seriously magic for a while now. I actually follow the Golden Dawn style of occultism when I can. I have a pretty big shelf full of great occult/magic books on a shelf in front of me right now actually. My avatar is the god Hades, who in astrology represents the planet Pluto, one of the most prominent planets in my chart.

Apart from Golden Dawn Hermeticism I study Christianity also. I'm familiar but vague on most other religions.

[a334jv2df]

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

I understand what you're saying BUT, when they weed out the bullshit and start looking at details, do you think they will jump to hire someone with a fucking degree from "DeVry online college" or a fucking BA from The University of Alabama. And just about the only people I know that don't have jobs right now, a year out of college, never really had the drive to get one to begin with.

Edit: NO offense to ANYONE with a degree from DeVry University. More power to ya!

Honestly, they would probably weed out anyone with a BA in general. BS or BSc in Mathematics, technology, engineering, chem, physics are the only undergrad degrees that pay (unless you already have connections). I'd much rather have a networking degree from No Name Community college then a Political Science degree from Northeastern or some other fartsy "research university". To be honest I got my BSc from a "research university" while in active heroin addiction for almost the entire time. College is easy. I landed a nice job right out of school making 48k. Not much, and I work with people who do the same job, make the same money, and went to a 2 year community college (and they are better at the job then me).

Basically what I'm saying is learn a fucking skill or a trade. Learn something concrete. You don't really learn to do shit with a political science, communication, english, psych, etc degree. And don't give me the "o you learn how to learn", yea true same with a Bachelors of Science except I can actually produce something that people need.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Community College is where you fucked up. you might as well just ride out this semester since its paid for already and just sell drugs and make friends while your there and then don't go back. Fucking psychology, really? From a community college, shits a scam.

[Gor]

Originally Posted by a334jv2df

Basically what I'm saying is learn a fucking skill or a trade. Learn something concrete. You don't really learn to do shit with a political science, communication, english, psych, etc degree. And don't give me the "o you learn how to learn", yea true same with a Bachelors of Science except I can actually produce something that people need.

That is so true. People going into college basically should be told that straight away. Something like: "oh you can follow your passion but these passions don't pay and those do".

Originally Posted by a224

Community College is where you fucked up. you might as well just ride out this semester since its paid for already and just sell drugs and make friends while your there and then don't go back. Fucking psychology, really? From a community college, shits a scam.

It's a transfer program. My degree would be from a 4 year college. Most 4 years in my state would accept the classes when I finished at their place.

[Proots]

It depends what lengths you're willing to go to. Are you searching for a life that brings you more success and stability? Are you searching for just happiness and carnal desires? You may have already answered this already, so bear with me. But ; if your word was reality, what position would you be in right now, if you could snap your fingers and make it happen?

[Gor]

Originally Posted by Midge

It depends what lengths you're willing to go to. Are you searching for a life that brings you more success and stability? Are you searching for just happiness and carnal desires? You may have already answered this already, so bear with me. But ; if your word was reality, what position would you be in right now, if you could snap your fingers and make it happen?

Carnal desires/happiness. SOME stability, but carnal desires and happiness take the cake here.

[dyrtybyrd]

A334j2df, not really sure why you quoted my entire post on yours. Few of your points are really relevant to the point I was making. I Never said anything about bullshit majors like "political science" or psychology majors. Mad respect for even having a job in this economy, especially one that pays worth a fuck like you have. People have to do what they have to do to get by. But as for you belittling my degree from the 31st ranked public university in the nation, yeah man, you're right, no one looks at that shit. GTFO of here. Any educated employer of any corporation will DEFINITELY take note of the school from which your degree was obtained! Anyway, yall keep performing your skilled trades and I'm going to keep managing the people that are laboring away. Put of all the majors you listed, not one was business related. Who the fuck do you expect to lead, manage, and analyze all the aspects of corporate America? Some scientist or engineer with no clue about how the business world works that couldn't have a conversation with someone unless they're another scientist? Or a fucking Management major that's an organizational guru with stellar people skills? I'll take the latter. G'day!

[MAYOR]

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

...yall keep performing your skilled trades and I'm going to keep managing the people that are laboring away.

Ain't that much. Sounding like a disgruntled crack dealer there. You ain't own the company.

[dyrtybyrd]

Originally Posted by Unbelievable Taste

Ain't that much. Sounding like a disgruntled crack dealer there. You ain't own the company.

Disgruntled crack dealer? With correct grammar? Damn, I've never met one of those. You, on the other hand, have NO idea what I do for a living. Also, "you ain't own the company"? Really? Does this deserve a response?

[MAYOR]

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

Disgruntled crack dealer? With correct grammar? Damn, I've never met one of those. You, on the other hand, have NO idea what I do for a living. Also, "you ain't own the company"? Really? Does this deserve a response?

My point is this: You seem to take pride in the fact you don't do the sweaty part of the job, while you manage those that do. Fine. But I have a hinkering you've got a bit of an ego going on about that fact. Lame. Take pride in your salary. And you stated earlier that you have a BA in business with a minor in computer science and work as a construction manager.

...

Originally Posted by dyrtybyrd

...Anyway, yall keep performing your skilled trades and I'm going to keep managing the people that are laboring away...

[dyrtybyrd]

UT, I simply defended the argument that it CAN make a difference where said degree was obtained from. I know this for a fact from speaking with many recruiters and former recruiters of Fortune 500 companies. As for me personally, I do take pride in what I earn, but I NEVER stated my salary, as others did here. I also take pride in what I have chosen to do, as everyone should. I do a hell of a good job at it. Those aren't my words. They are those of my superiors, as well as those who have worked with or for me. As for being egotistical, I am in no way on an ego trip about being in a management position. Tons of people are in management positions in the world. Whether it be at Microsoft or McDonald's, I can nearly guarantee you they worked their ass of for that position. Shit just isn't handed to you in life. Alot of people here don't believe that and just choose to take what isn't handed to them. I worked my ass off and sat through 5 years of boring ass college shit to get to where I'm at today. And since you're talking shit, the title is technically "Project Manager". Google it. Thanks!

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

Originally Posted by Gor

People aren't the same, you might love to be in a situation I don't. Some people would love to do the college, 9-5 life and all that, but I'm not happy with it. It's not that I want something more, it's that I want something different.

I might be ungrateful, but I can live with that. I cannot, or will not, however, live an unhappy life. I enjoyed various crimes that I have done in the past (note I have been prosecuted so I'm not admitting to stuff I didn't do mods). Okay maybe I'm not very good at it but whatever.

When people don't have very much stuff, and are dirt poor, I always hear people quote stuff like "it's the feeling that counts" or whatever. Well I'm not really poverty type of poor, but I don't have shit for feelings. I don't want to be ungrateful and feel I might have put too much of myself out here too early. It's just really easy to do behind the mask of the internet in a place like this.

I don't give a fuck; there is still absolutely no way, subjective or not, that your situation could ever be considered "having absolutely nothing", let alone less than absolutely nothing.