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Old 04-12-2009, 03:54 PM
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Arrow Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

I often hear people saying things like:

"You don't want anything over 100,000 miles, that's when things start going wrong!"

"It's done nearly 100,000 miles, I'd stay clear of it!"

Seems people have this idea in their heads that 100,000 miles is the cut-off point, and most won't even consider cars over 80,000 miles because it's too near to the limit.

However, I see plenty of cars with over 140,000 miles on the clock being sold for incredibly cheap prices.

I've actually considered getting one. I know earlier I said my budget was 4 grand, but that's because that is my maximum. Frink has got me thinking about cheaper cars.

What are things to look out for and things to avoid with higher mileage cars?

For an example, I saw this:

98' Escort, 1.6

106,000 miles. Full Ford Service History, 12 Months MOT



It's around 500

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Old 04-12-2009, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

It all depends on the car.

An 80s car with an SBC or what not would fall apart pretty close to 100-120k miles. It's just the nature of them.

An old Corolla or an old 300D would eat the miles right up to 250k, with good maintenance.

It all depends on the car.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

People who say "if it's over 100k walk away" are idiots.

It all depends how well it's been maintained - if it's been driven nicely and been serviced at a dealer at the correct intervals, chances are it'll keep on going for quite a lot longer. However, if it's had it's oil changed whenever the owner felt like it and they've driven around with the thing at its redline, you should walk away for sure.

Since it has a full Ford service history, you should check for when it's been serviced and for things breaking related to aggressive driving, e.g. blown CVs, brakes and tyres being replaced every few months and so on. Take it for a test drive and do all the usual things/checks you'd do when buying a used car...it's no different really.

I'm from the UK too, and my mate has a '96 Escort with 170k on the clock which is still going strong. And he drives like a complete fucking nutter too. The engines in there are fairly solid but listen for top end rattle and clatter as a sign of infrequent oil changes or lots of cold starts followed with aggressive driving. CVs are another point to watch too, but the gearboxes never seem to die.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

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People who say "if it's over 100k walk away" are idiots.

It all depends how well it's been maintained - if it's been driven nicely and been serviced at a dealer at the correct intervals, chances are it'll keep on going for quite a lot longer. However, if it's had it's oil changed whenever the owner felt like it and they've driven around with the thing at its redline, you should walk away for sure.

Since it has a full Ford service history, you should check for when it's been serviced and for things breaking related to aggressive driving, e.g. blown CVs, brakes and tyres being replaced every few months and so on. Take it for a test drive and do all the usual things/checks you'd do when buying a used car...it's no different really.

I'm from the UK too, and my mate has a '96 Escort with 170k on the clock which is still going strong. And he drives like a complete fucking nutter too. The engines in there are fairly solid but listen for top end rattle and clatter as a sign of infrequent oil changes or lots of cold starts followed with aggressive driving. CVs are another point to watch too, but the gearboxes never seem to die.
True, a diesel engine should give over 150,000 miles as long as it's been well maintained.
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

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It all depends on the car.
Not really..

One of my dad's friends had a early 90's Chevy truck with a 350. With regular oil changes and maintenance it had 450k+ miles. And there are several stories of diesel pickups rolling over 1 million miles with only changing the oil.

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It all depends how well it's been maintained
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

So to get this kind of reliability I want to buying WHAT exactly? Something that's got a full service history and everything?

Any other things to look out for?

How do you keep it running past 200k miles, is diesel better than petrol in this regard?

Regular oil changes, and filter changes are easy enough to be done, as far as I know.

I've heard some stuff about changing the cam belt every 50,000 miles or so, can't remember where though.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

^ diesels tend to live longer because they aren't stressed. Old peugeot diesels live forever.

Full service history is a massive bonus, you can get that the car has been well maintained

Oil and filter you can do yourself easily for 30. The most difficult bit is getting to the filter if its in an odd position.

cam belt/chain needs to be changed usually around every 50,000 miles, depends on what engine it is. It's difficult to do so unless you're confident get a mechanic to do it.

I'd always go japanese for old high mileage cars, personally.

That escort looks okay for the money. Give it a proper look over and try to haggle him down, you could probably get it for 350-400 if you tried. I'd definitely buy it for that money so long as there was nothing major wrong with it.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:37 PM
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To generalize, euro and jap cars do better. You have to watch for chassis/body problems too, not just the engine. Over 100k, some 'long-term' parts will start to wear out. Usually, you can tell whether the car is in good shape or not with a healthy test drive. Feel it out for noises, rattles, malfunctions.... make sure the engine runs well at all RPM's, starts good and that the tranny shifts good.

The best idea is to have a trusted mechanic check it out top to bottom. Don't forget to read about peoples' experiences with the particular model you want too.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

My friends 94 Chevy Lumina APV has 250,000 miles, and still going strong, although the suspension could use some work.
Edit: We named it the Blue Blur for lulz.

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Old 04-13-2009, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Are cars over 100,000 miles really a problem?

Generally when it comes to a sports car, it has been beat to shit after 100k miles and isn't worth buying.

In reality you can do a rebuild for pretty cheap and get near new performance out of the engine.

If it is an economical and well built car it should last FAR longer than 100k miles especially if the routine maintenance has been performed on time.

In fact, if all cars were treated as they are designed to be, with regular maintenance and non reckless driving, they should last well beyond 150k.
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