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...I mean seriously. Who pays for porn?
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For what? Milk? Air bags?

On most porn sites the only advertisements are to other porn sites.
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It scares me how advertisers make the industry go... pretty soon your free porn is going to be a hot girl with a huge "REDBULL" tattoe on her stomach lmao
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Sex products I'd say are a different category. Condoms and bangbros are not the same concept at all.
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Every time you view a porn clip on the internet, the owner of the website is making $0.01 from the guy who put the advertisement for "Make your Dick Bigger - Ron Jeremy's Secret" on the side there
But who would buy that book? Fucking no one. I can't see how it makes money. Advertising only works when people buy the products.
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This is like asking "How does google make moneys??"
Not at all. Respectable companies, all companies, can use google with a good public image. Not so for some porn website. There are few companies that could successfully advertise on porn sites.

You're not going to see a bukkake sponsored by pepsi.
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Just because you wouldn't buy it doesn't mean some other sap won't.

This is how pyramid schemes work too
I can't really believe there are people that stupid out there. Like 3 people would buy that book. That's nothing.
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Well the porn industry is still around and it still makes money so that should be proof enough that I'm right and you're wrong. This argument is moot
It obviously makes money but I disagree with the general assessment of how much the industry is worth.
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No all of that is funded by advertisements to fleshlight and such. People must be paying for porn. Its probably mostly old guys. If that assessment is true than it stands to reason that the porn industry will significantly decline in profit when the oldest generation ends, as each new generation will be better at getting porn for free. Leaving only fleshlight revenue. It that's likely, then the porn industry isn't worth what its claimed to be. I can't see our generation paying for porn.

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I don't give a shit who's paying for the advertisements. You asked a question and I answered it. It's paid for by ads mostly. Sometimes people pay for the porn itself too but the real money is in advertising
You haven't shown anything to support that.
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Same to you
I admitted ignorance on the subject and was suggesting possibilities. You are claiming facts which you have no basis for.
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These sound like assertions to me
Sounds like you bought a copy of that book to be honest. Maybe porn does make a lot through advertisements... I highly doubt they make anything off the book you bought though. You're one of the three.
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Not at all. Respectable companies, all companies, can use google with a good public image. Not so for some porn website. There are few companies that could successfully advertise on porn sites.

You're not going to see a bukkake sponsored by pepsi.
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the smart sites now use targeted ppc ads. that means the ads you see on redtube for example would not be the same ads that i see. they use all sorts of scripts, cookies etc to check your search and web history, and then target ads that are most likely to appeal to you. this doesn't always get it right and there are some users that are ad aware and just ignore any ads they see. but there are many people who are suckers enough to fall for that shit all the time. and its these good people who pay for all our porn. most of it anyway. DVDs are still sold as well as magazines, and there are many people who pay to access full content on sites. you probly noticed that most of the movies you watch for free are not full length, some idiots will pay to see a whole film. dunno why, but they do anyway.
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I can't really believe there are people that stupid out there. Like 3 people would buy that book. That's nothing.
its a big mistake in business to think that all your customers will think and respond exactly like you would. everyone's different, people respond to different things in different ways. if only 3 people clicked an ad they wouldn't be in business long, so obviously more people than you think do.
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its a big mistake in business to think that all your customers will think and respond exactly like you would. everyone's different, people respond to different things in different ways. if only 3 people clicked an ad they wouldn't be in business long, so obviously more people than you think do.
Tis true, but seriously... How is a book supposed to make your dick bigger? Its pretty much proven science that penis size correlates to your genetics... Not choice in breakfast. There is no possible way that book could possibly help anyone, and besides that fact, its probably available for free online. Those facts don't mean it won't get any sales, but it seriously reduces its potential for success.
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Tis true, but seriously... How is a book supposed to make your dick bigger? Its pretty much proven science that penis size correlates to your genetics... Not choice in breakfast. There is no possible way that book could possibly help anyone, and besides that fact, its probably available for free online. Those facts don't mean it won't get any sales, but it seriously reduces its potential for success.
we know that, but then i guess people who have small dicks and are really conscious about it will try anything if it offers even a tiny hope. a lot of these things play on peoples insecurities, and there are a lot of insecure people in the world. i think most people are insecure about something tbh.
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we know that, but then i guess people who have small dicks and are really conscious about it will try anything if it offers even a tiny hope. a lot of these things play on peoples insecurities, and there are a lot of insecure people in the world. i think most people are insecure about something tbh.
My point is that the advertising opportunities available on porn-sites have pretty much no potential when compared to alternate sources. Ya, maybe that book did sell 50 copies world wide, and maybe that was enough to turn a profit. It still doesn't compete with any other form of advertisement. They can't advertise for any non sex industry related products, and in general I don't think their clients are advertisement susceptible. When Cheetos puts an ad on the dave chapel show, they can be fairly certain a good amount of the target audience will buy some cheetos after viewing the ad. Lets say that the percentage of people who watch the ad, and then buy cheetos is 2.5%. What do you think the percentage of people who watch porn, and then buy shit from the related links is? Like .00009%? Its a terrible way to advertise unless you sell dildos or something in a related category.
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How many people play online slots? lol like come on that's obviously a rip off. And all the major dating sites are well known, through real advertising.
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How many people play online slots? lol like come on that's obviously a rip off. And all the major dating sites are well known, through real advertising.
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My point is that the advertising opportunities available on porn-sites have pretty much no potential when compared to alternate sources. Ya, maybe that book did sell 50 copies world wide, and maybe that was enough to turn a profit. It still doesn't compete with any other form of advertisement. They can't advertise for any non sex industry related products, and in general I don't think their clients are advertisement susceptible. When Cheetos puts an ad on the dave chapel show, they can be fairly certain a good amount of the target audience will buy some cheetos after viewing the ad. Lets say that the percentage of people who watch the ad, and then buy cheetos is 2.5%. What do you think the percentage of people who watch porn, and then buy shit from the related links is? Like .00009%? Its a terrible way to advertise unless you sell dildos or something in a related category.
so how do you come to these figures? have you done market research? or have you, as i suspect just dreamed them up of the top of your head. cause i can guarantee you that the companies that advertise on these sites have done their market research and have ad companies that know their shit when it comes to ad revenue. and they still pay good money to put their ads on these sites. if you don't believe me then go to some porn sites and see for yourself, you will see the ads there.
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How many people play online slots? lol like come on that's obviously a rip off. And all the major dating sites are well known, through real advertising.
is this some dumb form of trolling? you can't seriously be this stupid can you? or can you?
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is this some dumb form of trolling? you can't seriously be this stupid can you? or can you?
You can play online slots all you want, doesn't mean its popular.
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You can play online slots all you want, doesn't mean its popular.
go to google adsense for fuck sake. you can look at how many people search on different terms every month on there. my guess would be that 'slots'. 'online slots' and all similar search terms will be getting hundreds of millions of googles a month.
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go to google adsense for fuck sake. you can look at how many people search on different terms every month on there. my guess would be that 'slots'. 'online slots' and all similar search terms will be getting hundreds of millions of googles a month.
I seriously hope millions of people don't play online slots...
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I seriously hope millions of people don't play online slots...
hope all you like, they do. online gambling is huge, haven't you noticed some of these sites even have there own tv programs doing roulette and shit?
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Look, it's not rocket science. Prostitution is the world's oldest profession, or so they say. So it's not hard to see how getting rid of the physical act with someone(s) that might have diseases, or would then know your face/name and replacing them with just a virtual image to safely and anonymously enjoy could turn a profit when you can hit millions of users in a single night. Repeat that for a week, every week, for every year you're offering the service, and just keep ad space up. Out of those millions, you'll likely get more than a few idiots, sex addicts, and perverts who will be tempted to click them. Thing is, they don't have to though, and the owner of the site still makes money from them. Now multiply that one site by x100. Sure all aren't as 'good' as some others, but it doesn't mean that people don't find them and go there as well. And this isn't even thinking about 'premium' services, or porn torrents and what those mean.

I'm not sure what's to get, almost the whole of the US economy is becoming 'virtually' based. Offer a service where their is high demand and you'll have profit, even if the product is just virtual. Twitter is just virtual. I never see ads on it for the most part that I can recall, yet people are their and it makes a profit. All this really means is virtual products still need physical ones to back them up. So even if you don't use these virtual products, you support them every time you buy some Pepsi and Doritos. Or a girl buys a dildo, or you buy your butt plug, it all goes to support something else with the idea that people into those things will then go out and support their physical products. It's not always true, so thank your pervy friends with the sex toys next time you see them for supporting your online 'habits'.
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Just because SOME OF US don't pay for porn doesn't mean NOBODY pays for porn. Think about this: Every time you download a paid set for free, SOMEBODY had to have paid for it then released it.
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This is probably one of the best conversations I've ever read.
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Regarding the Penis book....

I'm a professional internet marketer, not a big player by any means but I average 400 - 700 a week and its mostly passive. I;m not living like a rockstar but its a good life.

Being an internet marketer and specifically one that sells books via affiliate marketing, I estimate that the penis book, as stupid as it is, probably sells 30+ copies a day. It wouldn't be crazy to say it could sell upwards of 80+ a day depending on the ad campaign and number of affiliate marketers selling for them on blogs, websites, and such.

To put it in a different perspective, 30 sells a day... with a average conversion rate of TARGETED traffic (which most traffic is now a days) it would be safe to say anywhere from 500 - 1000 (maybe more if its a shitty marketer) clicked on the add. 500 - 1000 people aint shit for big ass porn sites like redtube, yourjizz, spankwire, ect. The number of visitors they have a day is fuck ton. The percentage of people who click the ad is low but when you have a ton of traffic, even a ,low percentage generates a lot of sales.
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I enjoyed the protip series
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I enjoyed the protip series
did it do you any good? ..help you at all?
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