Friend Is Bank Teller(Advice-Needed)

[nevergiveup]

I'm going to be creating a short film -

Person A works as a teller in a bank.. what scenario's are available for his friend Person B to use for some cash. Whats works best if you have bank info access as a teller?

Cheers friends,

[ShadyLady]

I think your friend should totally go through with stealing from their bank employer where their every move is recorded on camera.

[1337]

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by 1337

It's not like they count the money ever in a bank, OP will be good.

this

[nevergiveup]

Yea this could be a cool film

[Darkie]

Sounds a decent plan. If I were you I'd start shopping for an island now. Hell, how about recruiting another friend who's a cop and another who's a vet; then you could get ket on tap and never get caught as a product of your shit stupid musings.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by nevergiveup

Thanks on the reply, I'm looking more into a sophisticated plan. I'm having trouble finding anything on the search that is in detail, perhaps a PM would help from a fellow member that can relate to the situation.

Cheers to all

There is absolutely no chance you will get PM'd by feds posing as normal members, you have nothing to worry about.

[roasted]

If OP is suggesting some type of inside job; this is the first thing the feds investigate. Even if a masked robber storms into a bank with an AK, they always look at the employees first (especially lowly tellers).

If they have any inkling that your friend is involved, they will subpoena every shread of personal info available. They will find a link between you and the robber (have you ever called your friends cell phone? Did you go to school together? Live in the same neighborhood? Ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic violation together? Facebook friends?)

Bank robbery is a federal offense, they will use every resource possible to arrest you. <60% of bank robbers are arrested immediately, of those arrested (at any time), the conviction rate is <90%. Minimum sentencing requirements, no parole in Federal prisons. Good luck

[nevergiveup]

No robbery is intended in this movie script. I am looking more into writing a scenario where a teller has access to information that a 2nd person can use to withdraw cash by some way? Is this possible?

[roasted]

Originally Posted by nevergiveup

No robbery is intended in this movie script. I am looking more into writing a scenario where a teller has access to information that a 2nd person can use to withdraw cash by some way? Is this possible?

If OP is suggesting some type of inside job; this is the first thing the feds investigate. Any bank crime is a federal offense...is it worth it?

[SoulButter]

Originally Posted by nevergiveup

No robbery is intended in this movie script. I am looking more into writing a scenario where a teller has access to information that a 2nd person can use to withdraw cash by some way? Is this possible?

Receipts? If you can find them theres probably some decent information that you could use.

[mynameisfrankenstein]

gum on the lock when you close up

[Obbe]

You'll never make it while working at a bank.

[nevergiveup]

What are the opportunities for this type of situation, if any?


I'm trying to write up a small movie script with detailed information , they will get caught in the end cause Greed is the biggest enemy when your in that position. No way would I put myself in this position are you guys nuts?

Its a small movie I wanna create

[mfe55]

you dumb fuck. You have an inside man and you cant think of a plan? How about a simple note bank robbery. Pass your even dumber friend a note saying its a robbery and then have him give you the bills. You have so much control over the situation with an inside man its not even funny. If you cant think of a good plan your an idiot. the first question you need to ask yourself is how much money do you want to get? ALL of IT or just a couple thousand? go from there. He knows the personality of his co workers. will they will be scared shitless if you do a full out bank take over? is one of them a macho dumb ass who thinks he is a hero?.( My Motto is "this isnt the movies Heroes get Killed"). Either way you fucked up by posting on this site. Bank robbery is no joke. You can do some things to help yourself.
1. Wear some sort of a disguise try to cover your eyes or change your nose. Fuck... dress up like a god damn Hindu lady for all i care. facial recognition is a bitch.
2. Plant false evidence. Google fake tattoo sleeves.
3. Since you have an inside man DO NOT USE A WEAPON this does not mean dont bring one. Hold some mace in your pocket If your followed use it.
4. Do not directly threaten anyone (3 & 4 are for if you do get caught threats and using a weapon will land you an extra 10+ years a simple note robbery you looking at 3-6 years.)
5. Plan your escape route and do dry runs in an anonymous car.

This is risky but if done right you could get away. These are just some starting points for you.

[roasted]

Originally Posted by mfe55

you dumb fuck. You have an inside man and you cant think of a plan? How about a simple note bank robbery. Pass your even dumber friend a note saying its a robbery and then have him give you the bills. You have so much control over the situation with an inside man its not even funny. If you cant think of a good plan your an idiot. the first question you need to ask yourself is how much money do you want to get? ALL of IT or just a couple thousand? go from there. He knows the personality of his co workers. will they will be scared shitless if you do a full out bank take over? is one of them a macho dumb ass who thinks he is a hero?.( My Motto is "this isnt the movies Heroes get Killed"). Either way you fucked up by posting on this site. Bank robbery is no joke. You can do some things to help yourself.
1. Wear some sort of a disguise try to cover your eyes or change your nose. Fuck... dress up like a god damn Hindu lady for all i care. facial recognition is a bitch.
2. Plant false evidence. Google fake tattoo sleeves.
3. Since you have an inside man DO NOT USE A WEAPON this does not mean dont bring one. Hold some mace in your pocket If your followed use it.
4. Do not directly threaten anyone (3 & 4 are for if you do get caught threats and using a weapon will land you an extra 10+ years a simple note robbery you looking at 3-6 years.)
5. Plan your escape route and do dry runs in an anonymous car.

This is risky but if done right you could get away. These are just some starting points for you.

Yes, listen to this mudfarmer...

Oh fyi, in a bank robbery, producing a weapon is irrelevant to your charges...it the threat of violence or the use of intimidation...retard.

-10, stupid idea.

[nevergiveup]

I appreciate the time you put to write-up a post but I'm not interested in the low-level schemes, It doesn't take much brains and will fail if someone were to try this in real life in a big city especially, but thanks again.I dont want to write-up a movie script involving a bank robbery its just too plain.

Can Bank tellers obtain information needed to withdraw funds from other accounts? Or something along those lines?

Cheers,

[1337]

[Rape_N_U]

#1. Don't trust anyone...period point blank
#2. If you want to make $$, take personal information(ssn, DOB, credit reports etc) and sell on the black market

[mfe55]

Originally Posted by roasted

Yes, listen to this mudfarmer...

Oh fyi, in a bank robbery, producing a weapon is irrelevant to your charges...it the threat of violence or the use of intimidation...retard.

-10, stupid idea.

your a fucking idiot producing a weapon is use of intimidation and can be conceived as a threat of violence. you think that producing a weapon is going to get you the same sentence as not producing a weapon? why don't you do a little research on sentencing while brandishing a weapon during a bank robbery. then get back to me you little 14 yo bitch you mom needs to spank you for even looking on this site.

[nevergiveup]

Going to be snowing tonight

[light~]

Hello

This is just off the top of my head, but I would use the friend to study the alarm system, cameras, vault, and schedules (including information) of every employee.

The friend should not physically be a part of when the robbery takes place, but rather a strong resource for reconnaissance.

With an employee of a bank, you can get a ton of insider's knowledge.


0. Vault timer lock (when does it lock, when does it open)
1. Vault combination
2. When the vault gets emptied and when it is at it's fullest and aprox. how much sits in there (with this information, the thief can determine the aprox weight he will need to deal with and how long it will take to empty).
3. Photos of the vault key and forge a copy based on the photos (this takes lots of experience)
4. Locations of every hidden alarm button
5. Locations of every camera and any hidden cameras
6. Locations of all motion sensors, or any other integrated alarm system with the model names.
7. Employee can use thermal imaging to figure out the access control password to enable/disable the alarm or any other keypad system, or an old trick of spraying a liquid onto the keypad that can only be seen under a black light (when the manager types it in, the thief can come back and see which keys were pressed and calculate the total possible combinations).
8. If RFID tags are in use, the employee can sneak in an RFID cloner to copy cards of higher status employees and hand them down to the thief.
9. The employee can artificially create a blind spot for a moment and place a key logger on the manager's computer, this could help obtain additional useful information.
10. Video bugs can be planted with careful effort

These are just a few ideas in mind.

The most important part to all of this is that neither the employee or the thief can ever be seen communicating/interacting. Burner phones should be used or private instant messenger systems. Another idea for the employee and thief to communicate would be by having the employee send anonymous letters (no return address) to one another and then having the thief burn them after retaining the information into his memory.

I think a real thief is sophisticated, intelligent and patient. Most importantly, plays it like they have nothing to lose.
If this were my story/film, I would never employ weapons. Weapons are easy to trace and there is nothing sophisticated or classy about robbing a bank with guns (although this is what entertains the audience the most).

[bobapanbeers]

watch ''the real mccoy''

you need a scapegoat

[SBTlauien]

Put fish in a safe deposit box so it stinks up the bank.

[MidKnightFrost]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Sutton

if only Sutton could drop us a line on the subject...

[skygear]

I remember of a time when someone told me about something they did...

They worked at a bank, everyone was buddy buddy there - so eventually everyone trusted each other and started to get comfortable. In the vault there were travelers checks, boxes and boxes stacked almost top the ceiling! Policy was to count ALL of the checks, but since the boxes were sealed, no one wanted to bother with them and thus marked them as all there!

Well, one of the boxes was opened at the top and that one was treated the same as CASH. Guarded, counted religiously, but not the rest...

So one day, he accidentally knocked over the tower of travelers checks. As he picked them back up, one of the boxes had split on the bottom of the box. He decided to remove a handful of TRAVELERS CHECKS and stash them in the bank for a week to see what happened. As he suspected, no one noticed... The day he planned on taking them home, he went in and got 5 more stacks.

Himself, friends, family, everyone around him had these now. He explained how to use them and not get in trouble. No cameras etc...

Eventually he emptied one of the boxes half way and decided to dig into a few of the others to balance out the boxes. Later he realized he had used almost 2 full boxes. He stopped messing with them after that and 4 months later he had the FBI questioning everyone in the bank. Soon after, he realized he was being monitored and they followed him around everywhere for 6 months. He quit that job shortly after they interviewed him and so did most of the employees there.

He hasn't heard anything since and because of the whole branch not counting properly there was entirely too much footage to narrow it down to where the loss happened. They weren't sure if it was at the branch level or with the transport company.

[EmptyShelve]

Maybe your friend can get you that superb cappuccino they have in the break room, so you don't have to drink mud water from the customer coffee machine. This is basically risk free for you, and i don't think there are any federal charges for him either.

[nevergiveup]

Cool

[skygear]

He told me that it totaled to a couple hundred thousand. My personal theory is more like 30k-50k.

I can't be sure though, I haven't seen the boxes or know how much is in one.

[nevergiveup]

[bobapanbeers]

Originally Posted by nevergiveup

Thats interesting.. So does anyone know what information is valuable? If someone were to have access and sell on the black market? Anyone have an estimate of what the value is of certain info? Thanks in advance friends

we wouldn't be on this forum answering your questions if we did....

[bobapanbeers]

well maybe...just maybe you could discover that the bank where your friend works has an old OLD account under the name Nicolas Alexander Romanov...and that there are millions of dollars in it... and you and your friend discover a big conspiracy behind that money and that the U.S. owed that money to the last tsar...blah blah blah...your character discovers he's gay and you fall in love with your friend

That's gold man GOLD!

[roasted]

Originally Posted by mfe55

your a fucking idiot producing a weapon is use of intimidation and can be conceived as a threat of violence. you think that producing a weapon is going to get you the same sentence as not producing a weapon? why don't you do a little research on sentencing while brandishing a weapon during a bank robbery. then get back to me you little 14 yo bitch you mom needs to spank you for even looking on this site.

The average bank robber makes off with about $4000. Thats an incredible amount of money for a 5-10 year strech in federal prison. I suggest you try this. I want you learn the hard way that you are an idiot.

Pro tip: Stick with shipping drugs via Fedex. That is a genius idea. Its also another federal offense. You are full of bright ideas. Keep it up buddy. I suggest you read this thread about streching your anus before going to prison. You'll find it useful.

[ShadyLady]

Originally Posted by nevergiveup

Thats interesting.. So does anyone know what information is valuable? If someone were to have access and sell on the black market? Anyone have an estimate of what the value is of certain info? Thanks in advance friends

Yeah, the dots won't be connected when many of the people who use your bank have gotten their identities stolen.

[L33tz]

Originally Posted by MidKnightFrost

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Sutton

if only Sutton could drop us a line on the subject...

In February 1952, Sutton was captured by police after having been recognized on a subway and followed by Arnold Schuster, a 24-year-old Brooklyn clothing salesman and amateur detective. Schuster later appeared on television and described how he had assisted in Sutton's apprehension. Albert Anastasia, Mafia boss of the Gambino crime family, took a dislike to Schuster because he was a "squealer." According to Mafia turncoat and government informant, Joe Valachi, Anastasia ordered the murder of Schuster, who was shot to death outside his home on March 9, 1952.

[mfe55]

Originally Posted by roasted

The average bank robber makes off with about $4000. Thats an incredible amount of money for a 5-10 year strech in federal prison. I suggest you try this. I want you learn the hard way that you are an idiot.

Pro tip: Stick with shipping drugs via Fedex. That is a genius idea. Its also another federal offense. You are full of bright ideas. Keep it up buddy. I suggest you read this thread about streching your anus before going to prison. You'll find it useful.

ive done 4 years in the joint im proven and no ass strechin for me. i didnt say rob a bank but if you have an inside man a good plan is not that hard to come up with. You stick to robbing old ladies oh in case you were wondering cowards like those are the niggas that get ass raped in jail.

[mfe55]

Ive sent more money and drugs through FedEx than you will ever make in your life. so stick to starting threads about beer and dropping shit in the toilet.

[smmy]

best scenario is person A and B open bank accounts with fake ids , receive money in the bank accounts , pay 50% to the person who send the money and in this way all A B and C earn 10k or more each / week .... is the best scenario

[foldedpear]

Actually, unless the embezzlement was particularly huge and pulled off in an egregiously public manner, most banks will not prosecute most employee thefts. They don't want the publicity to harm their image. And no, this isn't my personal opinion.

I don't think the employee will get a good job reference, though.

[bobapanbeers]

Originally Posted by foldedpear

Actually, unless the embezzlement was particularly huge and pulled off in an egregiously public manner, most banks will not prosecute most employee thefts. They don't want the publicity to harm their image. And no, this isn't my personal opinion.

I don't think the employee will get a good job reference, though.

hahahah! you're funny!

If you fucking steal 5$, even if you're the boss of the bank or branch manager or whatever they are gonna fire your ass and treat you like a thief, because 5 $ is a breach of confidence: if they can't trust you with 5 $ why would they thrust you with the account to thousands of people? That's real life baby!