Another JWH ban

sexually vulnerable CPR dummy · #1 03-09-2012, 02:26 AM

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Legal synthetic drugs, the ones sold in gas stations as incense or herbal blend, are about to be banned statewide. Less than a year after lawmakers voted to outlaw older synthetic drugs, new, slightly alerted products are back on the shelves. Those products will soon be banned through a bill with unanimous support in the House and the Senate.

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Sy...141822623.html

Duke Zion · #2 03-09-2012, 02:34 AM

Good to hear it, that shit needs to be banned

**Gun Lover** · #3 03-09-2012, 02:38 AM

*Smokes more 122*

feelsgoodman

DJ Meaty Cheeks · #4 03-09-2012, 02:57 AM

Free the weed baby!

White Jesus · #5 03-09-2012, 03:09 AM

Lulz at them playing catchup. JTE is the futre mannn

Marsh · #6 03-09-2012, 03:12 AM

Gimmie someodat AM

jheit8 · #7 03-09-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sexually vulnerable CPR dummy

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Sy...141822623.html

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A Florida teen learned the hard way. He smoked Jazz in January and was found drowned in a creek hours later.

In other news, a man was found shot to death several hours after masturbating. But this menace to the community will not be around much longer, State legislature is working to ban masturbating in the great state of Florida.

Doki66 · #8 03-09-2012, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke Zion

Good to hear it, that shit needs to be banned

straight up

Jesus Stamos · #9 03-09-2012, 04:21 AM

Growing weed is easier than synthing any JWH or AM.

DJ Meaty Cheeks · #10 03-09-2012, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by John Stamos

Growing weed is easier than synthing any JWH or AM.

But not easier than just buying synthetics.

I wish some so called journalist would state the obvious next time they vomit up a synthetic cannabinoid death story - that said death (assuming it was actually due to synthetics) would never have happened if WEED WAS LEGAL.

Jesus Stamos · #11 03-09-2012, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

But not easier than just buying synthetics.

This is very true. RC's are easier to buy than benadryl sadly enough.

jheit8 · #12 03-09-2012, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

It was probably a paranoia induced heart attack. Could happen with weed too, synths are just more potent and u wont 'green out' on it, you just keep getting higher and higher.

How would a heart attack lead to a death by drowning?

InspiredByMe · #13 03-09-2012, 05:11 AM

Drugs evolve faster than their laws can.

This pleases me.

L33tz · #14 03-09-2012, 05:34 AM

nice try

Duke Zion · #15 03-09-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

The one time I'll ever mean this with you duke... Shut the fuck up.

Don't talk back to your daddy

Retard Synrdome · #16 03-09-2012, 12:33 PM

Oh no, looks like everyone will have to buy... *gasp*...

Real drugs!

Duke Zion · #17 03-09-2012, 12:35 PM

Real weed is much better anywayz

The Pat-Man · #18 03-09-2012, 12:55 PM

jesus christ I'm no pothead but fucking legalize it already.

Duke Zion · #19 03-09-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Yes, but weed is nowhere near a potent.
You can't buy weed online (well...easily)
You can't smoke weed wherever you want, as it will smell
You won't get drug tested for synthetic cb's.

Making more of these synthetics illegal will not do shit. Scientists have already come up with more. And when those are made illegal, more will come in their place. The only possible outcome I could see coming out of this cat/mouse game would be less research. Because really, these chems DO have alot of research potential. And It would be great if we could finally find one that is harmless, like weed. But that will never happen with this chase the law is giving. Its pointless.

The synthetic shit is not natural like real weed. Mixing pharmaceutical chemicals with plant material then burning it and inhaling is not safe

I know a guy you smoked the shit everyday and had a few seizures and it took him like three months to feel normal again.

Weed is not hard to find, just look around a little bit

These synthetic cannibolds actually are very different then THC, especially how it effects your brain chemistry when smoked...

Duke Zion · #20 03-09-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Natural =/= safer or better

This is not how everyone consumes these synthetics. And I don't think we have the studies to show how marshmallow leaf or damania will effect you. But I agree, it can't be good for you. (Plus it tastes like shit)

Nobody is saying it's safer than weed. These are called research chemicals for a reason. He was probably smoking just store bought spice too right? Who knows whats in that shit.

Some people would rather order drugs online. And what if you are being drug tested?

Woah woah woah, hold your horses. These things hit pretty much the same receptors. As the ban goes farther and farther, scientists will only make crazier and crazier shit. Whats that one chem that is like an anti-cannabinoid or something like that?

I'm not saying this shit is good for you. But I do believe in being able to put whatever the fuck you wan't in your body. Especially when these drugs are so valuable to the scientific community (As obtaining weed in a lab is extremley hard to do).

They should be researched before people consume these chemicals. If you want to be a test dummy for these drugs, that is your choice but this becomes dangerous if say someone young or ignorant about using drugs takes too much or takes it for a long period of time and it causes them permanent disabling effects on their mind and body.

Even if there is some studies or experience from other users info out there it does not mean that these chemicals are by any means safe or they should be tested with. I used to experiment with research chemicals years ago back when the ones that were not that dangerous were still legal, But you see what is happening they keep becoming illegal and we are stuck with the ones that are both very new and may be toxic

Duke Zion · #21 03-09-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

I agree, they should be researched. But just making it illegal hurts both the scientific and drug using community. What we need to do is make this an 18+ product, with disclaimers stating that this is a research chemical. Instead we just get more, and more, and more drugs that we know less, and less, and less about.

Too many kids get their hands on this shit because its legal and they have no idea what they are putting in their body. First time I got this shit, I had a joint of spice, and it was pathetic. I thought it would be weak as fuck based on its size. I knew nothing about it at all. I smoked the whole thing and basically went into a vegatative state for an hour.

I can't say from experience what it does or how it compares to regular weed because I have never tried it and probably never will due to like I said hearing stories from other people suffering problems and the fact that I have no problem getting regular Marijuana

Making it illegal does hurt the scientific community but I think there are enough drugs that are safer and far more researched but the problem is them being illegal making it hard for some people to get.

Duke Zion · #22 03-09-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

It's pretty damn close to weed man (you can even pick a chem based on if you want a more sativa/indica like high), but you just get higher and higher and higher. Unlike weed where you will just pass out. But really, if you do this stuff orally, and use moderation, you should have no problems. Its just idiots who give this stuff a bad name.

Edit: It's also amazingly cheaper to use this stuff than weed. Which is really great for somebody like me who has a tight budget.

I am getting too old to be trying out new drugs, I will stick with the ones I already have experience with, although I am trying to stay sober for a bit because I need to get a job for one, so I cant smoke weed and I was on a 2 month DXM/alcohol binge and my body and minds needs to recover a bit

This does sound like a good alternative to try while I cant smoke the real shit, but it still sounds skeptical to me. You saying it differs from regular weed by making you get higher and not pass out just proves my point that it is doing different things to your brain then THC does.

Duke Zion · #23 03-09-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

No, it affects it in the same way. Hits the same receptors as weed does. Its just a full agonist v.s. weed which is a partial agonist. As long as you use responsibly and don't go crazy with it, you should be fine. It's only the people who think "DURR LETS SMOKE A BOWL OF THIS SHIT" who have problems. Or if you get the pure powder, you must be extra careful. But even after going through 2 grams of am-2201 (one of the more potent synths, active in as little as 1mg) and eyeballing the whole time, I never had any problems.

I would just be careful if I were you. You may think it is not causing any real harm but you can never be too sure. The long term effects and toxicity is still debatable.

Duke Zion · #24 03-09-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Eh, I don't give enough fucks to care about what its doing to my body. Even If I knew it would cause cancer, and I knew it would make me stupid, I would still probably do it.

That is kind of my attitude about DXM. I have been using it off and on for over 10 years and it really has not caused me any problems that I know about but I assume it will at some point, but you only live once so you might as well do what you enjoy

Duke Zion · #25 03-09-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Exactly.

I smoke cigarettes and it is known to cause cancer so I guess I understand what you mean, but that is a extreme example. I was talking about a permanent cognitive impairment that may be caused by smoking this stuff in the long run

iMagiNation · #26 03-09-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke Zion

I smoke cigarettes and it is known to cause cancer so I guess I understand what you mean, but that is a extreme example. I was talking about a permanent cognitive impairment that may be caused by smoking this stuff in the long run

Very few things outside of surgery cause permanent cognitive impairment. The very idea is pure prohibition derived propaganda.