The Zimmerman thread!

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Hey, looks like you actually got one right for once. Thumbs up, mang. It's too bad that Rust beat you to it, but that probably comes from the fact that he actually understands what he's copy/pasting, rather than simply copy/pasting shit all the time.

That still leaves us with the other point:
Shellie Zimmerman committed a felony. Okay, other than you being right, so what? Does that automatically make George Zimmerman guilty of murder? Will that win the prosecution's case?

Just trying to put the truth out there for you.

Truth is something you seem to have trouble with.

That would explain your insulting attacks.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

Just trying to put the truth out there for you.

Truth is something you seem to have trouble with.

That would explain your insulting attacks.

Your sudden affection for truth comes off as more than a little bogus when you parrot statements about respect for the law, yet gloss over the lack of respect for law from other parties involved. But it's all about making sure we hear the "truth" you want us to hear, right? Not all of it, just some of it, the right truth. Not the honest truth, because that doesn't fit your preconceptions.

If I had a problem with the truth, I wouldn't have admitted to being wrong even after you posted that.

As for those insulting attacks - those are something you earned for yourself. You don't like them, get the fuck over it or modify the shitty behavior that earned them.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Your sudden affection for truth comes off as more than a little bogus when you parrot statements about respect for the law, yet gloss over the lack of respect for law from other parties involved. But it's all about making sure we hear the "truth" you want us to hear, right? Not all of it, just some of it, the right truth. Not the honest truth, because that doesn't fit your preconceptions.

If I had a problem with the truth, I wouldn't have admitted to being wrong even after you posted that.

As for those insulting attacks - those are something you earned for yourself. You don't like them, get the fuck over it or modify the shitty behavior that earned them.

And you are wrong again. I posted that it was a felony before Rust did.

See:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.p...&postcount=864

[HelloClarice]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

And that last link shoots Zimmerman's claim that Martin was pounding his head into the sidewalk full of holes. (not that anyone was dumb enough to fall for it, or anything else he said to try to cover his ass).

"defendant has provided law enforcement with numerous statements which are inconsistent and not supported by physical evidence".Lol.

Yeah, those are going to be an interesting read when they're released to the public.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

And you are wrong again. I posted that it was a felony before Rust did.

See:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.p...&postcount=864

It's rather obvious that I'm referring to the supporting links and not the statements that you have made and that we have been discussing already for the past several posts and within the last ten hours or so...

Rust supported the statement before you did.

As far as being right or wrong goes, I'll remind you that you called me out for "posting a lie" based on a week-old statement that was not in fact a lie but incorrectly sourced. If truth and being right really mattered to you as you are now pretending they do, you wouldn't have made such blatantly incorrect statements.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by HelloClarice

Yeah, those are going to be an interesting read when they're released to the public.

A lot of the stuff the lying bastard has already said is interesting.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

It's rather obvious that I'm referring to the supporting links and not the statements that you have made and that we have been discussing already for the past several posts and within the last ten hours or so...

Rust supported the statement before you did.

As far as being right or wrong goes, I'll remind you that you called me out for "posting a lie" based on a week-old statement that was not in fact a lie but incorrectly sourced. If truth and being right really mattered to you as you are now pretending they do, you wouldn't have made such blatantly incorrect statements.

Well you post as if you are correct and are insulting while doing so and you act arrogantly like you are above others because of your erroneous conclusions.

It is really sad and pitiful.

I feel sorry for you.

And I do not remember you providing a source.

But certainly I could not imagine a person so out of touch with reality that he would think that perjury said to a Judge during a court hearing, involving a murder charge could even think that that crime of perjury could be merely a misdemeanor.

But that is what you did.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

Well you post as if you are correct and are insulting while doing so and you act arrogantly like you are above others because of your erroneous conclusions.

It is directed at you (and Tachosomoza) personally, not random other members of the general Zoklet population. Keep trying to muster some support, though. It always makes it easier to pull the shit you're trying when you can get others on board for it. Maybe you should try JFLC!

On that note, you don't deserve respect, and won't receive it, even when you happen to be right about a point being argued. I hope we're clear on that.

And I do not remember you providing a source.

I did not provide the source at that point in time, though I had it on file. Had you asked for it then, I'd have done so. Instead, you simply told me I was wrong. A week later, I'm apparently not just wrong, but a liar.

But certainly I could not imagine a person so out of touch with reality that he would think that perjury said to a Judge during a court hearing, involving a murder charge could even think that that crime of perjury could be merely a misdemeanor.

A Bail Hearing, to my understanding, is not the same thing as a murder charge, and it was my impression that such a hearing was not closely related enough.

Of course, if you really want to play this bullshit spin game that you're playing right now, we can do that.

I can't imagine a person so out of touch with reality that he would claim a person guilty of multiple drug offenses has no criminal history. Yet you did, and by your logic, that makes you either out of touch with reality or a liar, does it not?

Point? Your reasoning is shit, and your attempt to spin this beyond me simply being wrong is more of the same.

Point 2? Yes, it has been duly noted that you deliberately derailed the argument from the original topic you were wrong about in order to call me out for "lying" about something that happened a week ago.

Oh right, and a source on Zimmerman's status as Watch Captain:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/0...n-martin-case/

[Tachosomoza]

Hey, don't wrap me up in your shit.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Hey, don't wrap me up in your shit.

You deserve it for those racist remarks you made about me in PM, cracka.

[IIIII]

[quote=Iehovah;3649285


I can't imagine a person so out of touch with reality that he would claim a person guilty of multiple drug offenses has no criminal history. Yet you did, and by your logic, that makes you either out of touch with reality or a liar, does it not?

[/QUOTE]

-Trayvon did not have a criminal record and was never arrested or charged with multiple drug offenses.

Post some proof to this outlandish charge if you have proof.

I doubt you do.

Posts like this is why you appear to be a liar.

Like I said - sad and pitiful - and nearing the point of not being worth my time to respond.

Really sad.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

-Trayvon did not have a criminal record and was never arrested or charged with multiple drug offenses.

Post some proof to this outlandish charge if you have proof.

Criminal history isn't the same thing as criminal record, sir. If we're going to hold to your ridiculous standard of precision in making claims and statements, you basically stated that Trayvon had no criminal history, despite evidence to the contrary.

Surely you are not suggesting that because he was not prosecuted, he did not actually commit a crime by indulging in the use of marijuana?

Yes, he had a criminal history, a history of criminal behavior involving the illegal use of pot.

This is what I am talking about in accuracy, IIII. Consider it a variation on live by the sword, die by the sword. You are attempting to use spin to make points, and fucking yourself over in the process. According to the very standards you're trying to call me a liar with, you yourself are nothing more than a habitually lying piece of shit.

Of course, I don't buy your bullshit standards, so if you want to continue identifying yourself as a liar to others, then do so. Leave me out of it.

I notice you're very carefully evading the other issues raised. Truth not so important now, huh?

Point: This is what I am talking about when I say you have earned the shit that you are being forced to eat on a regular basis.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

No they don't. They provide speculation about what speed Martin was going, what he did on the way there, and what route he took, in order to conclude that he had "plenty of time". That's conjecture, as they don't know any of those crucial details.

Speculation about speed he was going? That's irrelevant. That little nigger could have done the worm home in the amount of time between Zimmerman saying "I have no idea where this kid is" in the 911 call and the point when Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman.
It's pretty clear that Trayvon had plenty of time to "escape" from Zimmerman if he wanted to, but he did not.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Speculation about speed he was going? That's irrelevant. That little nigger could have done the worm home in the amount of time between Zimmerman saying "I have no idea where this kid is" in the 911 call and the point when Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman.
It's pretty clear that Trayvon had plenty of time to "escape" from Zimmerman if he wanted to, but he did not.

No, it's not irrelevant. That's precisely how you can say that he had enough time to begin with. He doesn't have to run, just as you maintain that Zimmerman doesn't have to stay in his car and not follow.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

No, it's not irrelevant. That's precisely how you can say that he had enough time to begin with. He doesn't have to run, just as you maintain that Zimmerman doesn't have to stay in his car and not follow.

But he did take of running. He could have made it home easily. Did he have to go home? No. But that doesn't mean he gets to assault someone instead.
The fact is we know that he COULD have made it home and that he "lost" George Zimmerman by running. There is evidence for this.

Yet, instead of going home, he chose to assault George Zimmerman. This meant he either returned or he waited almost 3 minutes just to spring a trap on Zimmerman. We know this because he did assault Zimmerman, so it's not a guess. We just don't know the manner in which the assault was sprung on Zimmerman.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimm...4#.T-MoMZEpq9s

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by HelloClarice

Yeah, those are going to be an interesting read when they're released to the public.

Well, you got it!!! Eyewitness testimony. Watch it and weep.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerma...opstories.html

Suck on this FAT DICK, RUST.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Well, you got it!!! Eyewitness testimony. Watch it and weep.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerma...opstories.html

Suck on this FAT DICK, RUST.

looks like we were both looking for the same things lol.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Man you guys don't even realize you're just pawns in a bigger political game right now. They want "stand your ground" to go away, and you're playing right into their hands.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Man you guys don't even realize you're just pawns in a bigger political game right now. They want "stand your ground" to go away, and you're playing right into their hands.

Not me. I totally support stand your ground. I also support legalizing dueling (to the death) and fighting.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

But he did take of running. He could have made it home easily. Did he have to go home? No. But that doesn't mean he gets to assault someone instead.
The fact is we know that he COULD have made it home and that he "lost" George Zimmerman by running. There is evidence for this.

You didn't address anything I said. Not only does nothing of that refute the fact that the links you had provided were giving nothing but speculation, but the fact he could have gotten home if he ran is as relevant as the fact that Zimmerman could have avoided everything had we waited in his car like he was told.

Your defense is that Zimmerman doesn't have to wait in his car by law. The same applies to Martin; he doesn't have to run at full speed to get home.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Well, you got it!!! Eyewitness testimony. Watch it and weep.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerma...opstories.html

Suck on this FAT DICK, RUST.

You're clearly angry that someone pointed out your bullshit before.

Anyways, that story isn't new (Zimmerman had told it before) and of course he's going to tell that story. He's the accused!

Still waiting for all the evidence supporting your horseshit claim that:

a. "It's pretty much proven that Martin started the fight"

b. "That Martin reached his home, and then decided to go back".

Get to it.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

You didn't address anything I said. Not only does nothing of that refute the fact that the links you had provided were giving nothing but speculation, but the fact he could have gotten home if he ran is as relevant as the fact that Zimmerman could have avoided everything had we waited in his car like he was told.

Your defense is that Zimmerman doesn't have to wait in his car by law. The same applies to Martin; he doesn't have to run at full speed to get home.

Their different because in one case Zimmerman was following Trayvon, and that's perfectly legal. THAT is why I say he didn't have to wait in his truck.

In Trayvons case, IF he is supposed to be a scared little victim that was just trying to get home then he had plenty of time to do so. We also know that Zimmerman stopped following him and that Trayvon lost Zimmerman.
Yet he returned and assaulted Zimmerman.

The time he had to get home totally destroys the claim that Trayvon was just a victim. THAT is why I am pointing it out, so get the fuck on topic you off topic retard.
I think what you need to remember is that YOU are responding to MY comments, not the other way around. I don't need to cater my posts to you, you need to cater yours to me. Get on topic or GTFO.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Well, you got it!!! Eyewitness testimony. Watch it and weep.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerma...opstories.html

Suck on this FAT DICK, RUST.

George Zimmerman has lied repeatedly. ANd the only fat dick that is being sucked is George Zimmerman's and his fat Dick is being sucked BL, DL, and I.

Only morons would believe the compulsive, lying, mentally ill, stalker fuck, Zimmerman, that started out lying to the cops and lied even when he knew his calls to his wife were being monitored.


And BL, DL and I are lying fucks also who love Zimmerman's cock.

But their lies are all they have to support the liar who is sitting in jail because his wife is a cock sucking liar also.

They all show up as a sad pitiful bunch....

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Rust

You're clearly angry that someone pointed out your bullshit before.

Anyways, that story isn't new (Zimmerman had told it before) and of course he's going to tell that story. He's the accused!

Still waiting for all the evidence supporting your horseshit claim that:

a. "It's pretty much proven that Martin started the fight"

b. "That Martin reached his home, and then decided to go back".

Get to it.

A) was "pretty much proven" in my opinion. Just like um..... It was "pretty much proven" that OJ killed Ron and Nichole. Even without witnesses. Or do you think he's innocent also? B) WAS proven. I'm not going to point it out to you EVERY time you ask. Look it up.

Also, if you think I am just some angry racist, you are wrong. I am white and also a paid member of the NAACP. So suck a fat babies dick.



Notice the wear on the card. I carry it with me. What have you done for the "plight" of the black man besides run your fuckin mouth? I contribute. This aint just some "I hate niggers" thing for me. How about you?

P.S. I put Tacho's name on the pic cause I originally sent it to him in a PM. Truth is, I really love the guy. I just think he is naive about things, and I told him that. But all you fuckers think I'm "out to get the browns". So I decided to post the pic here. The only black motherfuckers I automatically hate are George Jefferson, and any god dam coon that uses the phrase "Baby Mama/Baby Daddy".

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Notice the wear on the card. I carry it with me. What have you done for the "plight" of the black man besides run your fuckin mouth? I contribute. This aint just some "I hate niggers" thing for me. How about you?

Notice the expiry was 2011. You haven't done anything for the plight of the black man since then, you evil racist scum!

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Their different because in one case Zimmerman was following Trayvon, and that's perfectly legal. THAT is why I say he didn't have to wait in his truck.

That's not a difference, that's exactly what I said: Your defense is that according to the law Zimmerman does not have to stay in his truck and can follow Martin. The same exact thing applies to Martin: according to the law he does not have to run to get to his home. He can walk. He can crawl. He can stop and admire the houses.

Your spin - i.e. that if Martin was scared he could have run at full speed to his home - applies just as much to Zimmerman, who could have stayed in his truck if he really thought this person was a criminal.

I think what you need to remember is that YOU are responding to MY comments, not the other way around. I don't need to cater my posts to you, you need to cater yours to me. Get on topic or GTFO.

And I did. Your comment was that you had shown Martin had enough time. I responded to that comment by pointing out that was speculation, and even if we thought that speculation was true, it would change nothing as the same applies to Zimmerman.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

A) was "pretty much proven" in my opinion. Just like um..... It was "pretty much proven" that OJ killed Ron and Nichole. Even without witnesses. Or do you think he's innocent also? B) WAS proven. I'm not going to point it out to you EVERY time you ask. Look it up.

a) Which matches exactly what I said: It wasn't proven and you added the "pretty much" there as a weasel word/phrase so you could weasel yourself out of it the moment someone pointed out how that wasn't proven at all. Your opinion doesn't matter. Nobody was debating the fact that morons could reach opinions with a lack of evidence.

b) That was not proven at all. Stop making shit up. The most that was provided was a map and timeline that speculated the speed, path, and actions Martin took while he went towards his home and concluded that he might of had the time to get there, not that he actually did (which is what you said). However, they don't know the speed, they don't know the path, and they don't know whether he stopped or did something on the way there, and more importantly didn't say he actually got there.

Stop lying and either concede that you were talking out of your ass or provide the evidence.

P.S. The rest of your awful post was ignored because I didn't accuse you of being racist or anything. Ironically, it's you whose making a bullshit accusation.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Notice the expiry was 2011. You haven't done anything for the plight of the black man since then, you evil racist scum!

Is it expired? 2011? Well what fuckin year is it now? Looks like you ARE correct. But nice how you just trash that it's expired, and nothing else.

Good eye son. Guess that erases all the work I've done in that area.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Rust

a) Which matches exactly what I said: It wasn't proven and you added the "pretty much" there as a weasel word/phrase so you could weasel yourself out of it the moment someone pointed out how that wasn't proven at all. Your opinion doesn't matter. Nobody was debating the fact that morons could reach opinions with a lack of evidence.

b) That was not proven at all. Stop making shit up. The most that was provided was a map and timeline that speculated the speed, path, and actions Martin took while he went towards his home and concluded that he might of had the time to get there, not that he actually did (which is what you said). However, they don't know the speed, they don't know the path, and they don't know whether he stopped or did something on the way there, and more importantly didn't say he actually got there.

Stop lying and either concede that you were talking out of your ass or provide the evidence.

P.S. The rest of your awful post was ignored because I didn't accuse you of being racist or anything. Ironically, it's you whose making a bullshit accusation.

You are a stupid, stupid person. And yes that is a personal attack.

So are you are "pretty much" saying he didn't make it home? even tho his time and speed says he "could" have? Pretty much. I've seen 419 Nigerian scammers with more logic and reasoning than you.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

So are you are "pretty much" saying he didn't make it home? even tho his time and speed says he "could" have? Pretty much. I've seen 419 Nigerian scammers with more logic and reasoning than you.

I'm saying you have no evidence that he did make it home or that he started the confrontation, and judging by your continued inability to post the evidence, and your pathetic responses so far, I think it's "pretty much proven" that I'm right.

[Benjamin Linus]

Hell, you may be "pretty much" right. But I doubt it. I was just going by what his girlfriend said. But at the end of the day, she's just a bootlip sheboon. She'll say anything that gets her a cash settlement (nigger lottery).

[IIIII]

The flaw in some people's logic is that Trayvon was running away from a scary creepy man who had no business chasing him in the first place.

Zimmerman started running after Trayvon first.

It is completely logical that Trayvon was not running home but was running away from the scary, creepy Zimmerman. And it is logical that Trayvon did not want this crazy, creepy Zimmerman to know where he lived.

It is also logical that the scary creepy Zimmerman could have de-escalated the situation when Trayvon asked him why he (GZ) was following him. But the crazy, creepy Zimmerman then attacked Trayvon.

[Rust]

^ Shut up. You're just as bad as Linus, and Dread_Lord.

[IIIII]

I copied and pasted this from youtube for those who may want to see it.

It is the full 72 minute interrogation of the crazy, creepy alleged murderer of the young innocent Trayvon after Zimmerman chased after and shot to death a young innocent person.

Those who have issues with my copy - paste posts please know that you are not obligated to watch the video.

If my copy and pasting of this video in some way irritates anyone here then I say to those people that it may be because your strange idea of reality is grounded in your hate for the disclosure of the truth that would show how wrong your thinking is.

George Zimmerman Interrogation - YouTube

George Zimmerman Interrogation - YouTube
Video: click to display

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Rust

^ Shut up. You're just as bad as Linus, and Dread_Lord.

Who the fuck are you to tell anyone to shut up, pussy??

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

That's not a difference, that's exactly what I said: Your defense is that according to the law Zimmerman does not have to stay in his truck and can follow Martin. The same exact thing applies to Martin: according to the law he does not have to run to get to his home. He can walk. He can crawl. He can stop and admire the houses.

Uh, no, fucktard, you're mixing two entirely different topics.
My comment about Zimmerman being legally able to follow Trayvon is entirely different. That same argument doesn't apply here in any way whatsoever. That argument was based on the LEGALITY of Zimmerman following Trayvon.
This argument is based how much of a "Scared little boy" Trayvon was.
If he was a scared little boy he had more than enough to get home. It's without question. I am not questioning the legality of Trayvon Martins destination in any fucking way. I don't even know how your idiot mind came to that conclusion. You're fucking stupid.

Your spin - i.e. that if Martin was scared he could have run at full speed to his home - applies just as much to Zimmerman, who could have stayed in his truck if he really thought this person was a criminal.

IF Martin was scared of Zimmerman (as some have implied throughout this thread and the net) then yes, he would have ran home. This is common sense. The evidence shows that he did something counter to fear.

Zimmermans level of fear has absolutely jack shit to do with this. No one is suggestion Zimmerman was afraid of Trayvon until AFTER he was assaulted.

And I did. Your comment was that you had shown Martin had enough time. I responded to that comment by pointing out that was speculation, and even if we thought that speculation was true, it would change nothing as the same applies to Zimmerman.

The only speculation on those websites is HOW the assault occurred. I was not discussing any details as to how that assault occurred in the post you responded to. You brought up that subject.

What I said is that Trayvon had plenty of time to get home but instead he assaulted Zimmerman. You're not even really responding to that either, so you can shut the fuck up.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

I'm saying you have no evidence that he did make it home or that he started the confrontation, and judging by your continued inability to post the evidence, and your pathetic responses so far, I think it's "pretty much proven" that I'm right.

On the contrary, we have the testimony of the man who shot him. The Victim George Zimmerman.

[Benjamin Linus]

P.S. Just want to thank whoever it was that pointed out my NAACP membership had expired. I just renewed it. It cost me $27 in pennies, a 40 of malt liquor, and $1.87 in food stamps.

[Tachosomoza]

You really wanna impress me, Linus, join the Nation of Islam.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Rust

That's not a difference, that's exactly what I said: Your defense is that according to the law Zimmerman does not have to stay in his truck and can follow Martin. The same exact thing applies to Martin: according to the law he does not have to run to get to his home. He can walk. He can crawl. He can stop and admire the houses.

Very true. BUT he doesn't have the right to go back and escalate the situation. Plain and simple. He had escaped the evil clutches of GZ, but went back to confront him. You have to admit thats true/makes sense? WTF?