The Zimmerman thread!

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Is it expired? 2011? Well what fuckin year is it now? Looks like you ARE correct. But nice how you just trash that it's expired, and nothing else.

Good eye son. Guess that erases all the work I've done in that area.

Oh... come on.

It's like 98% of humanity is losing it's higher functions. All you ass monkeys do is parrot talking points now, and you can't even recognize obvious satire.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Uh, no, fucktard, you're mixing two entirely different topics.

No I'm not you moron. I separated both "topics". Pay attention. I pointed out how the matters are equal in both of those "topics", but I covered the first "topic" in the first paragraph, and I covered the second "topic" in the second paragraph.

Second paragraph:
Your spin - i.e. that if Martin was scared he could have run at full speed to his home - applies just as much to Zimmerman, who could have stayed in his truck if he really thought this person was a criminal.

Zimmermans level of fear has absolutely jack shit to do with this. No one is suggestion Zimmerman was afraid of Trayvon until AFTER he was assaulted.

Whether Martin was scared or not is just as irrelevant.The law doesn't require him to be scared, or act as you'd think he should if he was. He can act however the fuck he wants to when scared, or not be scared at all. Just as Zimmerman has no requirement to stay in the truck and doesn't have to be scared of people he thinks are criminals.

The only speculation on those websites is HOW the assault occurred. I was not discussing any details as to how that assault occurred in the post you responded to. You brought up that subject.

What I said is that Trayvon had plenty of time to get home but instead he assaulted Zimmerman. You're not even really responding to that either, so you can shut the fuck up.

Bullshit. In order to claim that Martin had plenty of time to get home, you ( and the pages you linked to) need to speculate what path he took, what speed he was going at, whether the clocks in the different phone calls were on time, and whether Martin did something while he was getting there. All speculation.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

On the contrary, we have the testimony of the man who shot him. The Victim George Zimmerman.

You mean the testimony of the accused? Exactly.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Very true. BUT he doesn't have the right to go back and escalate the situation. Plain and simple. He had escaped the evil clutches of GZ, but went back to confront him. You have to admit thats true/makes sense? WTF?

Yeah, and you had any proof of that you'd have a point. You don't. Like I said from the very beginning:

Nobody really knows who attacked first. All we know is that Zimmerman followed Martin and that Zimmerman sustained injuries. Whether Zimmerman started the altercation and then Martin overpowered him and beat him up, or whether Martin hid and caught Zimmerman by surprise, nobody knows.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by IIIII

Who the fuck are you to tell anyone to shut up, pussy??

Still nursing that man-crush on Treyvon? Give it up, dude's dead.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

You really wanna impress me, Linus, join the Nation of Islam.

As-Salamu Alaykum my brother.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/4255/

This page has no info.

You think you are being funny, but the facts are that I HAVE read the Quran and have ~200 hours of study in the Quran. All 114 chapters. You have no idea. Even the older verses of the Mus'haf. Not that I subscribe to the bullshit, but alot of it hits a chord with me. It is quite interesting.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Man you guys don't even realize you're just pawns in a bigger political game right now. They want "stand your ground" to go away, and you're playing right into their hands.

SYG laws, as part of the Castle Doctrine, are perfectly fine, IMO. Your property, stand it if you like. If it does apply to getting into fights out in public, then it shouldn't, because escalating fights just for the excuse of killing someone based on your right to "stand your 2 feet of concrete" is fucking asinine. Defending one's property vs defending zip-shit. That anyone thought to try and make it apply to Zimmerman and Martin's case is baffling.

[Benjamin Linus]

EDIT:

We should probably NOT bring religion into this ridiculous argument. 99.9% of what I say, I believe. But I do word it in a way just to piss you guys off.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

SYG laws, as part of the Castle Doctrine, are perfectly fine, IMO. Your property, stand it if you like. If it does apply to getting into fights out in public, then it shouldn't, because escalating fights just for the excuse of killing someone based on your right to "stand your 2 feet of concrete" is fucking asinine. Defending one's property vs defending zip-shit. That anyone thought to try and make it apply to Zimmerman and Martin's case is baffling.

And thankfully, the LAW has nothing to do with your personal feelings, sooooooo, ummmmmmm.......... Shut the fuck up retard.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

SYG laws, as part of the Castle Doctrine, are perfectly fine, IMO. Your property, stand it if you like. If it does apply to getting into fights out in public, then it shouldn't, because escalating fights just for the excuse of killing someone based on your right to "stand your 2 feet of concrete" is fucking asinine. Defending one's property vs defending zip-shit. That anyone thought to try and make it apply to Zimmerman and Martin's case is baffling.

This is the point they tried to play on originally with the Nuno v Saavedra case. Nuno was a bully planning on fighting Saavedra, Saavedra got off the bus a few stops before the one where Nuno said he was going to lay down the whoop ass, then stabbed Nuno to death with a knife he'd been showing off.

I guess the folks who want SYG gone didn't account for the fact that 90% of the country was bullied as a kid, and hold massive resentment issues. So now they're playing off racial tensions. Pretty unsubtle, but 90% of the country is also retarded so nobody gives a shit or even sees what's going on.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

SYG laws, as part of the Castle Doctrine, are perfectly fine, IMO. Your property, stand it if you like. If it does apply to getting into fights out in public, then it shouldn't, because escalating fights just for the excuse of killing someone based on your right to "stand your 2 feet of concrete" is fucking asinine. Defending one's property vs defending zip-shit. That anyone thought to try and make it apply to Zimmerman and Martin's case is baffling.

Yeah, this. You should be able to defend yourself if some clown has broken into your house and is getting ready to rape you, but you shouldn't be able to start shit outside and then kill someone when you get a few cuts and bruises because you couldn't mind your own business.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

And thankfully, the LAW has nothing to do with your personal feelings, sooooooo, ummmmmmm.......... Shut the fuck up retard.

I'm pretty sure IIIII's twin sister Benjamin isn't in any place to go slinging the word 'retard'.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

No I'm not you moron. I separated both "topics". Pay attention. I pointed out how the matters are equal in both of those "topics", but I covered the first "topic" in the first paragraph, and I covered the second "topic" in the second paragraph.

Second paragraph:
Your spin - i.e. that if Martin was scared he could have run at full speed to his home - applies just as much to Zimmerman, who could have stayed in his truck if he really thought this person was a criminal.

Your argument makes no sense. Not gonna bother trying to explain it to your stupid ass again.

Whether Martin was scared or not is just as irrelevant.The law doesn't require him to be scared, or act as you'd think he should if he was. He can act however the fuck he wants to when scared, or not be scared at all. Just as Zimmerman has no requirement to stay in the truck and doesn't have to be scared of people he thinks are criminals.

Can't make one lick of sense out of what you just wrote. I'm not even talking about the law here, you are, and I have no fucking clue why. I never said Trayvon was required by law to react in any way. What he was required by law to do was to not assault Zimmerman. Other than that, no fucking clue what you're talking about so I can't respond to nonsense.

Bullshit. In order to claim that Martin had plenty of time to get home, you ( and the pages you linked to) need to speculate what path he took, what speed he was going at, whether the clocks in the different phone calls were on time, and whether Martin did something while he was getting there. All speculation.

The 911 calls, for legal purposes, are always on time. That combined with the length from the shooting to Trayvons house shows that Trayvon could have been home before Zimmerman hung up with the 911 operator. Especially if he was running, and since he was a nigger and an athlete he had no excuses in that department.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by mizled

Still nursing that man-crush on Treyvon? Give it up, dude's dead.

The irony is that your obsession with me and my posts leaves you no room to criticize me from you position of an erroneous fantasy conclusion.

But then you seem to be the type that would brag about your trolling to your 'freinds.'

And IMO you are doing so because you are afraid that my posts will reflect badly upon gun owners because of the truth that I am posting about the trigger happy gun owner Zimmerman.

Does your hubby know of your crush for the murderer Zimmerman?

I bet he would approve.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

You mean the testimony of the accused? Exactly.

No, I mean the testimony of the victim, that's why I used those words, dumb fuck.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

This is the point they tried to play on originally with the Nuno v Saavedra case. Nuno was a bully planning on fighting Saavedra, Saavedra got off the bus a few stops before the one where Nuno said he was going to lay down the whoop ass, then stabbed Nuno to death with a knife he'd been showing off.

I guess the folks who want SYG gone didn't account for the fact that 90% of the country was bullied as a kid, and hold massive resentment issues. So now they're playing off racial tensions. Pretty unsubtle, but 90% of the country is also retarded so nobody gives a shit or even sees what's going on.

You have to remember that you're talking to a beta male who has probably been beat down a lot. So he would naturally be against anything that would assume he had any pride and self respect and an ability to defend themselves against aggression. People like him rely on the police for everything, because lets face, they shouldn't even be alive. You remember at the beginning of 300 when they were deciding to keep or throw that baby off a cliff? They would have tossed his ass off the cliff...probably threw a few rocks off after him for good measure.

[Tachosomoza]

Defendant=/=Victim.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Your argument makes no sense. Not gonna bother trying to explain it to your stupid ass again.

Yeah, we already knew you're a moron so it's not a surprise you didn't understand a basic point. You claimed, based on speculation, that Martin had plenty of time to reach his house. I pointed out how not only is that speculation, but it's unimportant since he doesn't have to reach his house.

Can't make one lick of sense out of what you just wrote. I'm not even talking about the law here, you are, and I have no fucking clue why. I never said Trayvon was required by law to react in any way. What he was required by law to do was to not assault Zimmerman. Other than that, no fucking clue what you're talking about so I can't respond to nonsense.

I know you're not talking about the law, because the only way your point can make sense is if we abandon the law and stick your your retarded opinion. Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded opinion. It doesn't matter. What matters is the law.

The 911 calls, for legal purposes, are always on time. That combined with the length from the shooting to Trayvons house shows that Trayvon could have been home before Zimmerman hung up with the 911 operator. Especially if he was running, and since he was a nigger and an athlete he had no excuses in that department.

Except the evidence of timing came from different sources. Your own source speculate a timing issue to explain inconsistencies they found. No surprise, you didn't even read your own sources.

Again, even if we ignore the rampant speculation, and conclude that he had the time and ability to reach it, that changes nothing. The law doesn't require him to. So your point basically boils down to "I think scared people would have run". Who gives a fuck what you think?

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

No, I mean the testimony of the victim, that's why I used those words, dumb fuck.

Are you suggesting he's not accused of a crime and is not the defendant in a trial? I'm glad we both agree what I said was correct.

[Dread_Lord]

http://www.wdbo.com/videos/news/zimm...-feb-27/vcQxd/

Longer Zimmerman tape

[IIIII]

BL is just a liar.

The NAACP has never issued a membership card with perforated edges to anyone.

But BL would think his lie is a star for himself when he posted that he was a member of the NAACP using a fraudulent card

Only sad and pitiful posters do this.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by IIIII

The NAACP has never issued a membership card with perforated edges to anyone.

Prove it. He's provided evidence for his claim, do the same or STFU.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

http://www.wdbo.com/videos/news/zimm...-feb-27/vcQxd/

Longer Zimmerman tape

SO why would Zimmerman tell the dispatcher that he still wanted the cops to meet him if he thought Trayvon had left?

Maybe he was lying in an attempt to set up Trayvon's murder.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Prove it. He's provided evidence for his claim, do the same or STFU.

So you want my proof copy and pasted?

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by IIIII

SO why would Zimmerman tell the dispatcher that he still wanted the cops to meet him if he thought Trayvon had left?

Maybe he was lying in an attempt to set up Trayvon for murder.

Why would he tell the cops to show up at a scene where he was about to commit a murder?

This is getting pathetic.

Originally Posted by IIIII

So you want my proof copy and pasted?

No I want you to prove they've never offered that card, just like you want Obama Birthers to prove how the Birth Certificate is faked.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

Yeah, we already knew you're a moron so it's not a surprise you didn't understand a basic point. You claimed, based on speculation, that Martin had plenty of time to reach his house. I pointed out how not only is that speculation, but it's unimportant since he doesn't have to reach his house.

I claimed, based on factual evidence and Math (google it, fucktard) that Trayvon had plenty of time to get home. There is no speculation.

I know you're not talking about the law, because the only way your point can make sense is if we abandon the law and stick your your retarded opinion. Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded opinion. It doesn't matter. What matters is the law.

Dude, you're saying that there is no law that states that Trayvon has to go home....Okay, good for you. Has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Shut the fuck up.

Except the evidence of timing came from different sources. Your own source speculate a timing issue to explain inconsistencies they found. No surprise, you didn't even read your own sources.

Uh, no, my source explains that the cell phone records are prone to error, but that the 911 call from Zimmerman and the neighbors at the shooting clearly mark the beginning and end of the encounter. We have the time that Zimmerman made the call, the time he stopped chasing Trayvon, his location when he stopped chasing (which happens to be almost as far from his truck as it is from Trayvons house), and the 911 call wherein we hear the gunshot.
It's all there. No speculation, in inconsistencies.

Again, even if we ignore the rampant speculation, and conclude that he had the time and ability to reach it, that changes nothing. The law doesn't require him to. So your point basically boils down to "I think scared people would have run". Who gives a fuck what you think?

Once again, and for the last time, my comment was only made to dispel the claim that Trayvon was afraid and running from Zimmerman. This is proven beyond doubt by the fact that he assaulted Zimmerman when he had time enough to get home.
Anyone who is truly in fear of a predator runs for cover, and he would have naturally ran home. Anyone would do this, especially just a dozen seconds from your house. It's basic human behavior, you dipshit.

Are you suggesting he's not accused of a crime and is not the defendant in a trial? I'm glad we both agree what I said was correct.

No. I am not. He is absolutely accused of a crime and I did not say otherwise. You are, however, attempting to attach a stigma of being a criminal by using those words when everyone except you fucking idiots knows this case is 100% political and all the evidence released proves it. He is not a criminal he is a victim of an assault who defended himself. Fact. Face it.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

No. I am not. He is absolutely accused of a crime and I did not say otherwise. You are, however, attempting to attach a stigma of being a criminal by using those words when everyone except you fucking idiots knows this case is 100% political and all the evidence released proves it. He is not a criminal he is a victim of an assault who defended himself. Fact. Face it.

You do realize that even IF Trayvon attacked him, that doesn't prove that Trayvon started it, right? Self-defense isn't assault.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

I claimed, based on factual evidence and Math (google it, fucktard) that Trayvon had plenty of time to get home. There is no speculation.

Yes there is. There's speculation about the speed Martin would have traveled at, the path he took, not to mentioning the timing. But again, even if we excuse this speculation your point is awful anyway. So if it makes you feel happy, we can ignore the speculation in the blogs you posted, and assume they are talking about fact for the sake of argument. It wouldn't change anything.

Dude, you're saying that there is no law that states that Trayvon has to go home....Okay, good for you. Has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Shut the fuck up.

It has just as much to do with the conversation as your insistence, throughout this thread, that Zimmerman didn't have to stay in his truck. Apparently, you get to point out the law whenever someone says "Zimmerman should have stayed at his truck as he was told to", but I don't get to point out the law whenever you say "Martin should have run home if he was scared".

Once again, and for the last time, my comment was only made to dispel the claim that Trayvon was afraid and running from Zimmerman. This is proven beyond doubt by the fact that he assaulted Zimmerman when he had time enough to get home.
Anyone who is truly in fear of a predator runs for cover, and he would have naturally ran home. Anyone would do this, especially just a dozen seconds from your house. It's basic human behavior, you dipshit.

Except it doesn't dispel that. Not only does he not have to be scared, but he doesn't have to run home if he was. He can confront Zimmerman verbally as much as he wants, and still be within the law. That's the relevant point. You may say it's stupid to do so, sure, (just like others would say Zimmerman was stupid for following him) but not against the law, and not proof that he assaulted Zimmerman first.

Just like IIIII, you are claiming things have been proven which have clearly not been.

No. I am not. He is absolutely accused of a crime and I did not say otherwise. You are, however, attempting to attach a stigma of being a criminal by using those words when everyone except you fucking idiots knows this case is 100% political and all the evidence released proves it. He is not a criminal he is a victim of an assault who defended himself. Fact. Face it.

I'm attaching the same connotation you are by conveniently using the word "victim". That was my point. You can spin him as a "victim" just as easily as anyone else can spin him as the defendant/accused.

Actually, that's not even true. "Victim" requires that you know for a fact that Zimmerman was innocent when in reality you don't know that at all. No surprise, much like IIIII, you have no problem exaggerating and claiming things are fact when they aren't.

[IIIII]

A witness said that Trayvon was out of breath from running and that is why he stopped.

The witness also said that Zimmerman approached Trayvon.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by IIIII

The irony is that your obsession with me and my posts leaves you no room to criticize me from you position of an erroneous fantasy conclusion.

Your droning omnipresence doth not an obsession make.
You're just a fun target - like a squirrel.

But then you seem to be the type that would brag about your trolling to your 'freinds.'

Seriously? I mean seriously?
No, I would never brag about slapping you around. Honest.

And IMO you are doing so because you are afraid that my posts will reflect badly upon gun owners because of the truth that I am posting about the trigger happy gun owner Zimmerman.

Yes, I'm pro gun.
But the big reason is that you are just so fervent about the subject, your lack of objectivity makes you fun to play with and/or make fun of.

Does your hubby know of your crush for the (alleged) murderer Zimmerman?

Yeah, he digs me diggin' spics. Kinda gets pissed about the fan clubs meetings, but he'll get over it. That get you hard big boi?

I bet he would approve.

No, his opinion is that the Martin kid should have armed himself.

I tend to agree, only an idiot jock shows up at a gunfight with just his fists.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

Yes there is. There's speculation about the speed Martin would have traveled at, the path he took, not to mentioning the timing. But again, even if we excuse this speculation your point is awful anyway. So if it makes you feel happy, we can ignore the speculation in the blogs you posted, and assume they are talking about fact for the sake of argument. It wouldn't change anything.

LOL, he was running you fucking idiot.

It has just as much to do with the conversation as your insistence, throughout this thread, that Zimmerman didn't have to stay in his truck. Apparently, you get to point out the law whenever someone says "Zimmerman should have stayed at his truck as he was told to", but I don't get to point out the law whenever you say "Martin should have run home if he was scared".

Yes, this is a behavioral issue, not a legal issue. I never once claimed the law required him to run home. Your argument is stupid and off topic and will not be responded to anymore.

Except it doesn't dispel that. Not only does he not have to be scared, but he doesn't have to run home if he was. He can confront Zimmerman verbally as much as he wants, and still be within the law. That's the relevant point. You may say it's stupid to do so, sure, (just like others would say Zimmerman was stupid for following him) but not against the law, and not proof that he assaulted Zimmerman first.

Just like IIIII, you are claiming things have been proven which have clearly not been.

I didn't say he HAD to be scared, you fucking idiot. Other people are saying he WAS scare and running and was murdered. You don't even know what the fuck I am talking about you're just responding with nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Just leave it alone you fucking moron.

I'm attaching the same connotation you are by conveniently using the word "victim". That was my point. You can spin him as a "victim" just as easily as anyone else can spin him as the defendant/accused.

All the evidence proves he is a victim. If you believe he is guilty, disprove the evidence and prove him guilty. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Actually, that's not even true. "Victim" requires that you know for a fact that Zimmerman was innocent when in reality you don't know that at all. No surprise, much like IIIII, you have no problem exaggerating and claiming things are fact when they aren't.

We do know it for a fact.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Rust

Yes there is. There's speculation about the speed Martin would have traveled at, the path he took, not to mentioning the timing. But again, even if we excuse this speculation your point is awful anyway. So if it makes you feel happy, we can ignore the speculation in the blogs you posted, and assume they are talking about fact for the sake of argument. It wouldn't change anything.

LOL, he was running you fucking idiot.

It has just as much to do with the conversation as your insistence, throughout this thread, that Zimmerman didn't have to stay in his truck. Apparently, you get to point out the law whenever someone says "Zimmerman should have stayed at his truck as he was told to", but I don't get to point out the law whenever you say "Martin should have run home if he was scared".

Yes, this is a behavioral issue, not a legal issue. I never once claimed the law required him to run home. Your argument is stupid and off topic and will not be responded to anymore.

Except it doesn't dispel that. Not only does he not have to be scared, but he doesn't have to run home if he was. He can confront Zimmerman verbally as much as he wants, and still be within the law. That's the relevant point. You may say it's stupid to do so, sure, (just like others would say Zimmerman was stupid for following him) but not against the law, and not proof that he assaulted Zimmerman first.

Just like IIIII, you are claiming things have been proven which have clearly not been.

I didn't say he HAD to be scared, you fucking idiot. Other people are saying he WAS scare and running and was murdered. You don't even know what the fuck I am talking about you're just responding with nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Just leave it alone you fucking moron.

I'm attaching the same connotation you are by conveniently using the word "victim". That was my point. You can spin him as a "victim" just as easily as anyone else can spin him as the defendant/accused.

All the evidence proves he is a victim. If you believe he is guilty, disprove the evidence and prove him guilty. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Actually, that's not even true. "Victim" requires that you know for a fact that Zimmerman was innocent when in reality you don't know that at all. No surprise, much like IIIII, you have no problem exaggerating and claiming things are fact when they aren't.

We do know it for a fact.

bottom line, you don't know what you're talking about, you're not even making sense, nothing you are saying is even relevant to what I am saying and you refuse to even acknowledge that even though I have tried to tell you it multiple times now. Drop it or get ignored.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Yes, this is a behavioral issue, not a legal issue. I never once claimed the law required him to run home. Your argument is stupid and off topic and will not be responded to anymore.

Behavioral issues, ah yes.

Like assaulting cops.
Or stalking kids in the middle of the night.
Or carrying a gun for a neighborhood watch job.
Or helping your wife conceal funds for a bail hearing.

Yup.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

You do realize that even IF Trayvon attacked him, that doesn't prove that Trayvon started it, right? Self-defense isn't assault.

They were both 'standing their ground', it will be an interesting trial.

Zimmerman initiated contact, but Martin initiated physical contact.
Once you take a swing, you lose the moral imperative.
Kind of a conundrum, it will probably induce new legislation on some level.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Behavioral issues, ah yes.

Like assaulting cops.

He pushed an ATF agent while drunk and they dropped the charges.

Or stalking kids in the middle of the night.

In fact there is no evidence that he was asked by the non emergency operator to follow Trayvon...so IN YOUR FACE! haha, fucking idiots.

Or carrying a gun for a neighborhood watch job.

He bought, and carried, the firearm for protection. Originally against a rogue pit bull, but turns out it came in useful against a feral nigger.

Or helping your wife conceal funds for a bail hearing.

Yup.

Totally separate issue.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by mizled

Your droning omnipresence doth not an obsession make.
You're just a fun target - like a squirrel.

Seriously? I mean seriously?
No, I would never brag about slapping you around. Honest.

Yes, I'm pro gun.
But the big reason is that you are just so fervent about the subject, your lack of objectivity makes you fun to play with and/or make fun of.

Yeah, he digs me diggin' spics. Kinda gets pissed about the fan clubs meetings, but he'll get over it. That get you hard big boi?

No, his opinion is that the Martin kid should have armed himself.

I tend to agree, only an idiot jock shows up at a gunfight with just his fists.

I don't care.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

LOL, he was running you fucking idiot.

For at least a brief period. Sure. Where did I say otherwise?

Yes, this is a behavioral issue, not a legal issue. I never once claimed the law required him to run home. Your argument is stupid and off topic and will not be responded to anymore.

Again, I know you didn't bring up the law; your whole argument depends on ignoring the law and focusing on your meaningless opinion on "behavioral issues" ( ). You don't want the law brought up because it doesn't help your case. You want to bring it up whenever someone mentions that Zimmerman followed Martin, but you want to ignore it whenever you say Martin should have run if he was scared.

I didn't say he HAD to be scared, you fucking idiot. Other people are saying he WAS scare and running and was murdered. You don't even know what the fuck I am talking about you're just responding with nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Just leave it alone you fucking moron.

Thank you Capitain Obvious, the point is you're operating under an assumption that you didn't have to operate under anyways. I'm pointing out how we don't need to operate under that assumption to begin with, because he doesn't need to be scared.

Moreover, I'm also pointing out how even if you did assume he was scared because IIIII said he was, that doesn't mean he has to run, or run all the way there, or couldn't stop for breadth. Your point is awful.

All the evidence proves he is a victim. If you believe he is guilty, disprove the evidence and prove him guilty. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
...
We do know it for a fact.

No it doesn't. There is only one piece of evidence so far that attests to who started the fight, and that's the testimony of the defendant. That's not proof of anything. You don't know he's innocent for a fact. You're exaggerating and lying; just as IIIII.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by mizled

They were both 'standing their ground', it will be an interesting trial.

Zimmerman initiated contact, but Martin initiated physical contact.
Once you take a swing, you lose the moral imperative.
Kind of a conundrum, it will probably induce new legislation on some level.

Zimmerman was told by the operator to follow go find out where Trayvon went.
Zimmerman was asked for an address so he walked to a road that he knew the name of to get the address off a house. When he was returning to his car Trayvon assaulted him.

The law does not apply in any way to Trayvon Martin.

[IIIII]

I wonder if there were any witnesses to that rouge pit bull story?

I mean it is a fact that Zimmerman and his wife are eager to lie about just about anything.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

Zimmerman was told by the operator to follow go find out where Trayvon went.
Zimmerman was asked for an address so he walked to a road that he knew the name of to get the address off a house. When he was returning to his car Trayvon assaulted him.

The law does not apply in any way to Trayvon Martin.

As I said, it will be an interesting trial. My point of view? I carry.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by IIIII

I don't care.

Then you shouldn't have asked.

Apathy is a sordid refuge.