Torn over Diablo 3 - Ethics of gaming?

[L33tz]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

lol visibly upset

lol he probably got popped while mining veldspar in 0.4 in an osprey.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by L33tz

lol he probably got popped while mining veldspar in 0.4 in an osprey.

There's no shame in that, if you actually learn something from it.

[broseph]

fuck all this eve online spaceship wankery, tell me properly why i shouldn't be able to get good at a game and profit from that? oooh nooo it's all about the loving your virtual brother so we all have to spend 15 hours clicking the same shit and not hanging out with our friends, then at least the little kids won't spend their pocket money on pixels!

how about you all get some god damn balls and realise that some people have more money but less time to spend doing fuck all for no reason.

i'm gonna make a killing selling my shit in D3, so suck that.

[Township Rebellion]

Wouldn't having a sort of market that would allow players to sell and trade items be a good thing? See these MMO games aren't really supposed to be the artistically provocative type of game. Gameplay is grounded in social interaction amongst other things, it seems natural that players might want to start spending money on their favorite game. I think it might benefit everybody if there was/is a more open trading system like there is in the real world, that way the people who are good/experienced wouldn't need to spend money, and could possibly make money. Even those that buy those items could sell them off again if they wanted to.

I mean, there are much worse things than spending IRL money for shit you want.

[The Chuggernaut]

I don't like how 'wowified' it looks, I played the original diablo way back in the day (as well as 2/lod) and LOVED the gothic style and creepyness of it (dont tell me The Butcher from diablo 1 didnt give you the chills, FUCKING DEAD ROTTING BODIES HANGING FROM MEAT HOOKS). But alas, beggars cant be choosers, I'm just glad its got a release date.

And I don't think the real world money system will have TOO big an impact on the gameplay. Yes, it is cheating, and stupid, and a waste of money, but surely it wont be like the d2 auction sites where you can order a near perfect enigma for $5! By the time prices for items are set, hardcore players will have enough gold to buy the items they need (probably).

And yes, some rich ass niggers will go off and spend $500 on the best gear and characters and have an unfair advantage, but I'll bet those same people are gonna stop playing when GW2 or the next new big MMO comes out. ME? IM STICKIN AROUND TIL DIABLO 4.

I'm sure gonna miss the barter system, but I have a feeling this auction house is gonna give rise to the absolute BEST characters having badass, rediculous rares instead of perfect uniques, as was the case in non-lod diablo 2 (soul scratches, lol). And I think thats pretty exciting.

p.s. the skill system/infinite respec/pvp system worries me more

[The"Her0-in"me]

Originally Posted by The Chuggernaut

I don't like how 'wowified' it looks, I played the original diablo way back in the day (as well as 2/lod) and LOVED the gothic style and creepyness of it (dont tell me The Butcher from diablo 1 didnt give you the chills, FUCKING DEAD ROTTING BODIES HANGING FROM MEAT HOOKS). But alas, beggars cant be choosers, I'm just glad its got a release date.

And I don't think the real world money system will have TOO big an impact on the gameplay. Yes, it is cheating, and stupid, and a waste of money, but surely it wont be like the d2 auction sites where you can order a near perfect enigma for $5! By the time prices for items are set, hardcore players will have enough gold to buy the items they need (probably).

And yes, some rich ass niggers will go off and spend $500 on the best gear and characters and have an unfair advantage, but I'll bet those same people are gonna stop playing when GW2 or the next new big MMO comes out. ME? IM STICKIN AROUND TIL DIABLO 4.

I'm sure gonna miss the barter system, but I have a feeling this auction house is gonna give rise to the absolute BEST characters having badass, rediculous rares instead of perfect uniques, as was the case in non-lod diablo 2 (soul scratches, lol). And I think thats pretty exciting.

p.s. the skill system/infinite respec/pvp system worries me more

The Ability to respec your chars should not be allowed in d3. It ruined d2x as an implementation and it's when I stopped caring about the game much. Pvp has always been fatally flawed. Hammers w enigma owned everything.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by The"Her0-in"me

The Ability to respec your chars should not be allowed in d3. It ruined d2x as an implementation and it's when I stopped caring about the game much. Pvp has always been fatally flawed. Hammers w enigma owned everything.

You're retarded if you take pvp in a hack 'n' slash game seriously.

[The"Her0-in"me]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

You're retarded if you take pvp in a hack 'n' slash game seriously.

There wasn't ever anything serious about any of my posts. Lulz. U mad? PvP was simply too easy with all of the hacks released. Was still TPPKing people last season with fire bolt... Hahah

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by The"Her0-in"me

There wasn't ever anything serious about any of my posts. Lulz. U mad? PvP was simply too easy with all of the hacks released. Was still TPPKing people last season with fire bolt... Hahah

c0re

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by broseph

oooh nooo it's all about the loving your virtual brother so we all have to spend 15 hours clicking the same shit and not hanging out with our friends, then at least the little kids won't spend their pocket money on pixels!

how about you all get some god damn balls and realise that some people have more money but less time to spend doing fuck all for no reason.

If playing a game equates to "doing fuck all for no reason" then maybe you're playing the wrong game. Leveling used to be a chance to get to know people on your server, and it was a very important function for a community-based MMO.

Originally Posted by Township Rebellion

Wouldn't having a sort of market that would allow players to sell and trade items be a good thing? See these MMO games aren't really supposed to be the artistically provocative type of game. Gameplay is grounded in social interaction amongst other things, it seems natural that players might want to start spending money on their favorite game. I think it might benefit everybody if there was/is a more open trading system like there is in the real world, that way the people who are good/experienced wouldn't need to spend money, and could possibly make money. Even those that buy those items could sell them off again if they wanted to.

I mean, there are much worse things than spending IRL money for shit you want.

Yes, the games are grounded in social interaction. Obtaining items and levels together, while fighting off enemies that want those items and exp locations is generally what it means to socialize in MMOs. If players can purchase items (and soon levels, I'm sure) then that means there will be less overall social interaction. Players won't feel as though they are a part of something bigger, and have real enemies and real friends in the game, they will just feel... nothing?

It brings about a lack of emotional and social depth, and it honestly cheapens the entire experience for everyone, whether they purchase items and levels or not. Where is the meaning? My gear used to take me time and effort spent with a disciplined group of people that I actually got to know. We worked together and helped to earn one another gear. Soon, I will be able to forgo that altogether and just charge it to my credit card. Before, the guilds that had the "uber" gear and worked for it became well-known across the server, but in the future there will be more and more nameless people appearing out of thin air with the best gear there is.

Everyone wants to win when not everyone should win. We can't all be heroes, we need a lot of nobodies. Don't you understand?

[Duelist]

inb4 you are soooo retarded, you metagaming faggot.

[Lady Julily]

I suppose I'm something of a purist.

[broseph]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

If playing a game equates to "doing fuck all for no reason" then maybe you're playing the wrong game. Leveling used to be a chance to get to know people on your server, and it was a very important function for a community-based MMO.

i'm so sorry your beloved heaven of a game doesn't exist any more, but in reality grinding is boring as fuck. let's get real here.

i'm sure some people enjoy doing boring and repetitive things for the sake of video game levels (fuck all in reality), but i'm not one of them.

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by broseph

i'm so sorry your beloved heaven of a game doesn't exist any more, but in reality grinding is boring as fuck. let's get real here.

i'm sure some people enjoy doing boring and repetitive things for the sake of video game levels (fuck all in reality), but i'm not one of them.

All I have ever wanted is one game. One good fantasy MMO (with elves), with a healthy and stable population. You have every other MMO out there, for your watered-down and artificial PvP, meaningless PvE, complete and utter lack of social politics and cash-for-win systems.

Is one game too much to ask?

[broseph]

it was runescape back in '05, but you missed it.

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by broseph

it was runescape back in '05, but you missed it.

It was a few games, like Ultima Online, Runescape and EverQuest, and I did not miss it. I want to experience it again, in a new game

[Snoopy]

Can you people please die already with your shit?

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

cyber warfare

[DirtySanchez]

LOL at "ethics of gaming". These companies exist to make money end of story. Deal with it/

[General Butt.Naked]

tl;dr

fuck ethics dude... its got WITCH DOCTORS!!

a dude I talked to at the electronics store said that he was going to start doing the same thing- that when he played the last one, he actually managed to pay his rent and biull s by doing the same thing.

[Xlite]

Everyone can find/craft more or less the same items, so whoever actually uses real moneh will be cheated in some way.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

Everyone can find/craft more or less the same items, so whoever actually uses real moneh will be cheated in some way.

Not really. Time = money. So the money he wasted is the time he saved. It's no different from paying money to rent a movie than it is to spend 5 dollars to buy ooh duude 4 strength 4 stam leather belt? AHH! Level 18?

Which one of these is the bigger loser? The guy who spends 100+ hours grinding content or the guy who is spending rl cash to get the same? I guess both and neither.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Not really. Time = money. So the money he wasted is the time he saved. It's no different from paying money to rent a movie than it is to spend 5 dollars to buy ooh duude 4 strength 4 stam leather belt? AHH! Level 18?

Which one of these is the bigger loser? The guy who spends 100+ hours grinding content or the guy who is spending rl cash to get the same? I guess both and neither.

Well there's a pretty good chance of getting some of those items in question during the time it takes to complete the game on all difficulties.
So i still vote the guy spending cash, just so he can buy some items for a game which makes him feel like he's important.

And then i'l spend my 100 hours grinding and playing the game to experience the adventure diablo is, while still getting the items i want.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

just so he can buy some items for a game which makes him feel like he's important.

I don't know what you're on, but no one plays video games to feel important. You're confused.

Originally Posted by Xlite

And then i'l spend my 100 hours grinding and playing the game to experience the adventure diablo is, while still getting the items i want.

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!

[General Butt.Naked]

lol. I think this is the first time Ive heard Snoopy care about anything.

I might actually be interested to play EVE- the skill levelling does seem a bit janky though. Ill def be playing at least a bit of D3 though. I hope its well done. I put down 2000 bucks on a new computer for this. *excited as fuckkkk*

[General Butt.Naked]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!

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[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

I don't know what you're on, but no one plays video games to feel important. You're confused.

Yes, they do.
Although i wouldn't expect anyone like you to understand that.
You must be confused.

Originally Posted by Snoopy

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

Yes, they do.

Give one example outside of e-sports.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Give one example outside of e-sports.

People play games for a variety of reasons. Most of these reasons revolve around self-seeking opportunities. People are motivated to play games because they want to feel important, trying to gain friendship (political leverage), want to punish people who have hurt them, or are seeking resources. Game playing is all about helping or damaging people who can get them what they want.

source.

If you want more, google.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

People play games for a variety of reasons. Most of these reasons revolve around self-seeking opportunities. People are motivated to play games because they want to feel important, trying to gain friendship (political leverage), want to punish people who have hurt them, or are seeking resources. Game playing is all about helping or damaging people who can get them what they want.

source.

If you want more, google.

lol what a bunch of losers

It's also some loser's opinion from some loser's article. Here's my opinion; you're all losers.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

lol what a bunch of losers

It's also some loser's opinion from some loser's article. Here's my opinion; you're all losers.

Here's my opinion; I don't give a fuck about your opinion.

Also, he's alot less of a loser than you.

Book author, a doctoral student, a professor, and a human resource professional. He runs a consulting and online advertising company for small and medium businesses.



Or you jelly?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

Here's my opinion; I don't give a fuck about your opinion.

Also, he's alot less of a loser than you.

Book author, a doctoral student, a professor, and a human resource professional. He runs a consulting and online advertising company for small and medium businesses.



Or you jelly?

Not really. I have no respect for people who work/study in non-scientific or pseudo-scientific fields. Some marketing diaper head carpet pilot might impress an idiot such as yourself, but he's shit to me.

Next time, post an article that's actually about video games, not about mind games. Retard.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Not really. I have no respect for people who work/study in non-scientific or pseudo-scientific fields. Some marketing diaper head carpet pilot might impress an idiot such as yourself, but he's shit to me.

Next time, post an article that's actually about video games, not about mind games. Retard.

Its not my fault that your incompetence doesn't allow you to understand a simple sentence. This article is about actual video games, not mind games. You asked, i delivered. Not satisfied? Too fucking bad, bitch.

You're just wierd little snail.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

This article is about actual video games, not mind games.

lol fail

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

lol fail

Clearly you are the mad one, sir.
Mind games and mmo's are the same thing. You do the same stuff to other people, i don't see how you fail to make the connections.

But then again, i shouldn't expect small minded people like you to understand. Don't worry, you'll get older. Brain doesn't stop developing till 25ish.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

Clearly you are the mad one, sir.

Clearly you posted an article that had got nothing to do with gaming and are now trying to save face. The mad meme won't save you from ridicule. U don goofed up.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Clearly you posted an article that had got nothing to do with gaming and are now trying to save face. The mad meme won't save you from ridicule. U don goofed up.

What the topic is about is irrelivant, what matters is how its descibed.
I coulda written the exact same thing about video games, which makes my article valid.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

What the topic is about is irrelivant, what matters is how its descibed.
I coulda written the exact same thing about video games, which makes my article valid.

You're officially retarded.

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

You're officially retarded.

What makes you think i care?
Unlike you i don't have some internet status i want to preserve. This is just another example of that article.

You post to feel important, to hurt, to gain, to prove something.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Xlite

What makes you think i care?

Well, it doesn't matter whether you care or not. What a stupid thing to say. I mean, you might be wheelchair bound and liek... not even care. But not caring won't change the fact that you're handicapped and shitting diapers like a newborn baby.