Golden Dawn's general seceratary denies holocaust in front of national audience

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by King of the world

Because there's no such thing as wartime propaganda, right? The increasing number of supposed survivors that crop up wanting a pay out years later isn't a bit suspicious? And guess what, many of the more outrageous claims of the survivors are found to be liars later on. Wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't foul play and money talking as well.

The reality is though, most of the video testamonies of survivors discussing their time in auschwitz say the place sucked but it was basically livable, and that conditions improved as time went on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xm8UmMuRSSw
The given title may be 'crude', but that's hardly my fault.

"We were kidnapped from our homes and experimented upon because of our religion or lifestyles, but the food got better and they didn't beat us as much after July of '44."

Shut the fuck up, dude.

[King of the world]

Do something about it, little bitch. You can't stop me.

[King of the world]

Why do you even have an attachment to the whole ordeal? I think you just want something to bitch about and carry on making victims out of people to play in your own sad, weak, inferior game. Infact I don't just think, I fucking know. Don't make me post the unabomber manifesto again, it's going to become the default response to you very soon.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by King of the world

Why do you even have an attachment to the whole ordeal? I think you just want something to bitch about and carry on making victims out of people to play in your own sad, weak, inferior game.

Because I don't like seeing suffering trivialized or laughed at.

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Because I don't like seeing suffering trivialized or laughed at.

Get a hobby.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Yeah, but its pretty difficult to legitimately discredit thousands of witnesses including Soviet, American and British soldiers and generals who corroborate the survivors' stories unless you've got a dishonest anti Semitic agenda.

as long as we're taking people on their word and not actual evidence, why not the Nazis or the multitudes of detained Jews who've gone on record to say they'd never seen or heard of gas chambers? is it because there aren't enough crocodile tears?

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

White supremacists, Hitler apologists and anti Semites don't necessarily seek out or acknowledge holocaust survivors.

for someone who could build a career on crying about stereotyping, you sure do like to generalise and make huge assumptions on peoples' motives. and methods, for that matter.

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

And I've spoken to several. I don't take anything holocaust deniers say seriously. It's funny watching them get shut down when they try to meet in public.

RAH RAH FIGHT THE POWAH!

unless someone's feelings are getting hurt!

[Tachosomoza]

Lol, the Nazis? Fuck you and them, what's left of them anyways. There's plenty of evidence from several parties from different organizations to support the existence of gas chambers.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lol, the Nazis? Fuck you and them, what's left of them anyways. There's plenty of evidence from several parties from different organizations to support the existence of gas chambers.

you're just as stubborn, prejudiced and generally brainwashed as the people you constantly deride.

[Tachosomoza]

Yeah, I tend to not take seriously mass murderers' lies.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

The Soviet USSR and Japan committed far worse crimes than the NSDAP even if 6 billion did die, and people like you are the reason nobody knows about Unit 731, but Goebbels is a skeleton in every white man's closet.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

The Soviet USSR and Japan committed far worse crimes than the NSDAP even if 6 billion did die, and people like you are the reason nobody knows about Unit 731, but Goebbels is a skeleton in every white man's closet.

I thought this was a thread about anti Semites denying the holocaust, not the USSR or the Japanese

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

I thought this was a thread about anti Semites denying the holocaust, not the USSR or the Japanese

No, it was about a Greek political party testing free speech against censorship until you came in here crying that they shouldn't be allowed to do that lest feelings are hurt because the Jews suffered so much during WWII*.

What of others that suffered just as badly? Do they not matter because they're not a protected group, or because their suffering can't be exaggerated to mask the allies' own war crimes? Is the suffering of the Jews greater because it was a 'racist' crime?


*Because they said so.

[Struwwelpeter]

Goebbels isn't a skeleton in anyone's closet. Most people don't even know who Goebbels is. Most people don't even know the three branches of the United States government. I don't even know who Goebbels is. There are less than 1,000 people in America who could tell you anything about him at the drop of a hat. Everyone, left or right and everyone else, needs to stop BLOWING SHIT OUT OF PROPORTION. OMMFHGGFFGFFFGFFGGFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGG MOMMY THEY VICTIMIZE MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

Goebbels isn't a skeleton in anyone's closet. Most people don't even know who Goebbels is. Most people don't even know the three branches of the United States government. I don't even know who Goebbels is. There are less than 1,000 people in America who could tell you anything about him at the drop of a hat. Everyone, left or right and everyone else, needs to stop BLOWING SHIT OUT OF PROPORTION.

I liked you better when you had a cameraman

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

No, it was about a Greek political party testing free speech against censorship

Exactly. Once again, not everyone who is a holocaust revisionist or just doesn't believe the unquestionable and sacred story is an anti-semite. Not that it really matters whether they're anti-semites or not, that's no need for you to tell lies though tacho, anyone would think that niggers can't help but lie. It's a pattern I'm seeing actually, the most mixed racially and ethnically are the bitchiest, vain, perverted and all down disgusting people lacking of any character that I've ever met.

[jheit8]

Originally Posted by King of the world

Exactly. Once again, not everyone who is a holocaust revisionist or just doesn't believe the unquestionable and sacred story is an anti-semite. Not that it really matters whether they're anti-semites or not, that's no need for you to tell lies though tacho, anyone would think that niggers can't help but lie. It's a pattern I'm seeing actually, the most mixed racially and ethnically are the bitchiest, vain, perverted and all down disgusting people lacking of any character that I've ever met.

Holocaust "revisionism" isn't anti-semetic, it's anti-logic.

[King of the world]

"Proletarian", a spoilt little shit is what you are. It is good that even you aren't as stupid as tacho is to believe that revisionism and anti-semitism are the same thing.

Holocaustianity is anti-logic. I mean, really, have you even heard some of the shit that extermination theorists like Jean Claude Pressac come out with, let alone the claims of the 'survivors' who are given more media coverage.

[jheit8]

Originally Posted by King of the world

"Proletarian", a spoilt little shit is what you are. It is good that even you aren't as stupid as tacho is to believe that revisionism and anti-semitism are the same thing.

Holocaustianity is anti-logic. I mean, really, have you even heard some of the shit that extermination theorists like Jean Claude Pressac come out with, let alone the claims of the 'survivors' who are given more media coverage.

Holocaust revisionism is a different beast from antisemitism. Holocaust deniers are on the same level as creationists. Why would a proud anti-semite pretend the holocaust didn't happen?

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by King of the world

"Proletarian", a spoilt little shit is what you are. It is good that even you aren't as stupid as tacho is to believe that revisionism and anti-semitism are the same thing.

Holocaustianity is anti-logic. I mean, really, have you even heard some of the shit that extermination theorists like Jean Claude Pressac come out with, let alone the claims of the 'survivors' who are given more media coverage.

Why are you people so hell bent on saying the survivors are the end-all be-all of Holocaust proof.



Because there is like, a lot more evidence than testimonials. Like photographs and video footage.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

Why are you people so hell bent on saying the survivors are the end-all be-all of Holocaust proof.



Because there is like, a lot more evidence than testimonials. Like photographs and video footage.

ANTI NAZI PROPAGANDA! They were served cake and punch! Auschwitz was a luxury hotel!

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

ANTI NAZI PROPAGANDA! They were served cake and punch! Auschwitz was a luxury hotel!

I don't care much either way to engage in this battle, but if both of yall agree Jews are lying swine, why do you both keep chasing your own tails around saying one holocaust survivor is lying and the other is telling the truth?

[DirtySanchez]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

ANTI NAZI PROPAGANDA! They were served cake and punch! Auschwitz was a luxury hotel!

I dont think anyone ever claimed that the Jews weren't oppressed in Germany what I'm saying is that it was blown way out of proportion and nowhere near 6 million died.

[Cory]

No one seems to be mentioning the fact that the Nazis themselves thoroughly documented the the genocide. Haven't you deniers ever heard of the Wannsee Conference, or Generalplan Ost? Or do you seriously believe that is all just "made up"?

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Cory

No one seems to be mentioning the fact that the Nazis themselves thoroughly documented the the genocide. Haven't you deniers ever heard of the Wannsee Conference, or Generalplan Ost? Or do you seriously believe that is all just "made up"?

Allied plants, propaganda, it's all lies! The Jews killed millions of people just so that they could get their little shit strip of land surrounded by Arabs who blow themselves up daily! 14/88, restore Der Fuehrer's legacy!!!!

Fucking morons.

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Cory

Wannsee Conference

There is nothing in the protocol about extermination, gas chambers, or anything like that. This has been discussed before on this website. If you want we can have another thread to debate this.

Generalplan Ost?

Thus, no copies of the plan were found after the war among the documents in German archives. Apart from Ehlich's testimony, there are several documents which refer to this plan or are supplements to it. Although no copies of the actual document have survived, most of the plan's essential elements have been reconstructed from related memos, abstracts and other ancillary documents.

Convenient. Excuse me for thinking it sounds a little bit fishy and easy to manipulate. The differenc ebetween me and most revisionists is I don't believe there's a mass Jewish conspiracy in regards to the holocaust story, despite the fact that I'm not that fond of kikes since they tend to be very leftist or liberal; it is merely an issue leftists keep dragging up to uphold a victim culture and to attempt to silence opposition; there is a lot of wartime propaganda to keep in mind with anything regarding Nazi Germany, the allies weren't exactly blameless. Sure, a lot of Jews will unquestionably believe in the tales and parrot them, it's all they've ever been told, it's easier for them to play victim than stick out for taking a stand...

[King of the world]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Allied plants, propaganda, it's all lies! The Jews killed millions of people just so that they could get their little shit strip of land surrounded by Arabs who blow themselves up daily! 14/88, restore Der Fuehrer's legacy!!!!

Fucking morons.

What a shit attempt at mockery. You are a self-loathing nigger, intellectualist with a victim complex. You can't mock anyone and expect not to be scoffed at.

[Tachosomoza]

Lol, self loathing. Whatever happened to that unwarranted self importance?

[King of the world]

What can I say, you're a fucked up individual; I'll just leave it at that.

[jheit8]

Originally Posted by King of the world

There is nothing in the protocol about extermination, gas chambers, or anything like that. This has been discussed before on this website. If you want we can have another thread to debate this.





Convenient. Excuse me for thinking it sounds a little bit fishy and easy to manipulate. The differenc ebetween me and most revisionists is I don't believe there's a mass Jewish conspiracy in regards to the holocaust story, despite the fact that I'm not that fond of kikes since they tend to be very leftist or liberal; it is merely an issue leftists keep dragging up to uphold a victim culture and to attempt to silence opposition; there is a lot of wartime propaganda to keep in mind with anything regarding Nazi Germany, the allies weren't exactly blameless. Sure, a lot of Jews will unquestionably believe in the tales and parrot them, it's all they've ever been told, it's easier for them to play victim than stick out for taking a stand...

So you're just an idiot?

[DirtySanchez]

Originally Posted by King of the world

Convenient. Excuse me for thinking it sounds a little bit fishy and easy to manipulate. The differenc ebetween me and most revisionists is I don't believe there's a mass Jewish conspiracy in regards to the holocaust story, despite the fact that I'm not that fond of kikes since they tend to be very leftist or liberal; it is merely an issue leftists keep dragging up to uphold a victim culture and to attempt to silence opposition; there is a lot of wartime propaganda to keep in mind with anything regarding Nazi Germany, the allies weren't exactly blameless. Sure, a lot of Jews will unquestionably believe in the tales and parrot them, it's all they've ever been told, it's easier for them to play victim than stick out for taking a stand...

To me there is very little doubt that prominent Jews conspired to make themselves a protected class and establish the state of Israel. Even though I fully support Israels existence it can't be denied that the Holocaust myth was a large factor in gaining support for it. This isn't to say all Jews are involved in this conspiracy but their is a select group that uses it for their advantage. Zionism within Europe and the US is a problem but it's far from the biggest problem which is where I differ from most anti semites.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lol, self loathing. Whatever happened to that unwarranted self importance?

Whatever happened to you responding to any of the questions I asked?

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

Whatever happened to you responding to any of the questions I asked?

What, your trolling and Nazi apologist bullshit?

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

What, your trolling and Nazi apologist bullshit?

That's rich coming from you.

I'll condense it so that even you might be able to comprehend the question: why do you think this event should have investigation and potentially adversarial discussion censored?

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

That's rich coming from you.

I'll condense it so that even you might be able to comprehend the question: why do you think this event should have investigation and potentially adversarial discussion censored?

Why do you think Nazi sympathizers and people who possibly want to recreate such things as the holocaust should be allowed to propagate their madness and try to trivialize well documented suffering? There's been investigations, and...what people say happened, more or less happened. Trying to discredit and cover for the Nazis is ridiculous and insulting to this who lived through it.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Why do you think Nazi sympathizers and people who possibly want to recreate such things as the holocaust should be allowed to propagate their madness and try to trivialize well documented suffering?

That doesn't answer the question. Try again.

But I will answer yours: A good argument doesn't need censorship to defeat it's opposition. If they are all Nazi sympathisers baiting with propaganda, an open forum would give them the opportunity to bury themselves.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

If they are all Nazi sympathisers baiting with propaganda, an open forum would give them the opportunity to bury themselves.

It's much more fun kicking the shit out of them and shutting down their conferences and forums before they have the chance to discuss their insane theories that no civilized society would tolerate, though. Arguing with fascists is a waste of time, civil debate isn't their goal. Golden Dawn is a fascist, racist political party, shit like this is what they do. They've vandalized holocaust memorials and synagogues, for fucks' sake.

Fucking with David Irving is especially lulz.

You have no legitimate reason to deny well documented evidence that 6 million people died under Hitler unless you're an anti-Semite and Nazi sympathizer, when you're done running your mouth.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

It's much more fun kicking the shit out of them and shutting down their conferences and forums before they have the chance to discuss their insane theories that no civilized society would tolerate, though. Arguing with fascists is a waste of time, civil debate isn't their goal. Golden Dawn is a fascist, racist political party, shit like this is what they do. They've vandalized holocaust memorials and synagogues, for fucks' sake.

Fucking with David Irving is especially lulz.

You have no legitimate reason to deny well documented evidence that 6 million people died under Hitler unless you're an anti-Semite and Nazi sympathizer, when you're done running your mouth.

Uh huh.

Blacks are solely responsible for their deplorable state of affairs in the US because blacks enslaved blacks and sold them to whites as slaves.

End of discussion. Any further analysis or investigation is racist against whites.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

Uh huh.

Blacks are solely responsible for their deplorable state of affairs in the US because blacks enslaved blacks and sold them to whites as slaves.

End of discussion. Any further analysis or investigation is racist against whites.

You're a moron. Drawing parallels between slavery and support of genocide of Jews and Gypsies by a fascist political party. Wow. I'm done.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

You're a moron. Drawing parallels between slavery and support of genocide of Jews and Gypsies by a fascist political party. Wow.

I thought I said you weren't allowed to talk about it? Don't make me call the WDL.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

I thought I said you weren't allowed to talk about it? Don't make me call the WDL.

Too bad I am.

You're pathetic, Goebbels. Your attempt at parody is cute, though.