We have no rights....Police Detain Every Driver At a Red Light! [From TJI]

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Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber - YouTube

Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber - YouTube
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Police stopped every car at a red light on Monday in Aurora, Colorado, handcuffed every adult, and detained them for two hours. The police found the criminal they were looking for, but were their actions legal?

Responding to a tip that the person responsible for robbing a nearby Wells Fargo earlier was at that red light, the police moved in. They had no description of the criminal whatsoever.

All of the adult drivers were pulled from their 19 cars and cuffed. The police asked for permission to search the vehicles and every time it was granted. In the last car, they found the robber, armed with two loaded guns.

Sure the police got the criminal and everyone consented to their treatment, but did this mass detention infringe on anyone's civil rights? We'll find out if anyone sues the city of Aurora.

Insane! Total bull shit..

[Proots]

Wow...that's all I can say...wow. How can that be legal?

[Sober]

we as Americans allow it?

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Proots

Wow...that's all I can say...wow. How can that be legal?

Because they consented to have their cars searched? IDK, most adults who aren't trying to hide stuff don't really get that upset about things like that.

[Sober]

Why would you consent to be handcuffed when you aren't doing anything wrong, and there is a man "in close proximity" with loaded handguns?

Fuck that noise. get a warrant, or get ready to be sued.

[Issue313]

I'm more interested in why Christian Praetsch, a 45 year old former music teacher, did this robbery. Apparently he only netted $2000. Is it that bad in America?

[HampTheToker]

I probably would have consented, too. Besides driving without a license, I don't ride dirty.

Even if I didn't, they would probably only further detain me by separating me physically from the scene, but otherwise still in public or possibly a squad car w/o cuffs. Eventually, they still would have gotten their man through process of elimination. The average American has nothing to hide. The unanimous nature of the searchees demonstrates this.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Issue313

I'm more interested in why Christian Praetsch, a 45 year old former music teacher, did this robbery. Apparently he only netted $2000. Is it that bad in America?

If you're a music teacher, it is. Former or not.

[tomjohens]

Originally Posted by Issue313

I'm more interested in why Christian Praetsch, a 45 year old former music teacher, did this robbery. Apparently he only netted $2000. Is it that bad in America?

the average bank robber only gets like $4k, so he just got below average...most robbers arent very smart

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it turns out the bank robber was among them, armed with these two high powered handguns...

What are those guns? A Glock 17 and a M&P 9mm? lol...

[ArmsMerchant]

Sounds pretty heinous. As a rule, they need probable cause to even pull you over.

I would guess the pigs did their best to intimidate and/or coerce the drivers into giving "permission".

When I got cited for two counts of possession of illegal weapons (trial is slated for July 13), the trooper said that if I didn't give "consent," he would have my car impounded and I'd lose all my stuff.

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Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

Sounds pretty heinous. As a rule, they need probable cause to even pull you over.

I would guess the pigs did their best to intimidate and/or coerce the drivers into giving "permission".

When I got cited for two counts of possession of illegal weapons (trial is slated for July 13), the trooper said that if I didn't give "consent," he would have my car impounded and I'd lose all my stuff.

thats how they do it. Consent, or we impound your car. I had a friend refuse consent and they impounded his car for almost a week while they were searching it. They left him on the roadside and they towed his car like 40 miles away to the highway patrol impound yard. When the officer asked him to step out of the car my friend left his cell phone and wallet in the car, and the police didnt let him grab them before they towed the car. So he was on a roadside, no money, no phone...and a big FU from the highway patrol...

When they were done searching it, he had to find a way to get 40 miles from his house to get his car back

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

Yeah the thing with most bank robberies is that most of them don't have any way to get into the safe(s) so they just take whatever the tellers have, which isn't that much.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Fuck the government.

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Fuck Tha Police

Fuck Tha Police
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[Eskorbuto]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

Because they consented to have their cars searched? IDK, most adults who aren't trying to hide stuff don't really get that upset about things like that.

I never consent to searches, because fuck the police.

Also, (check your local laws, I'm citing mine) you cannot be intimidated into giving consent- if you are, whatever they find isn't valid in court.

The only way your car can be searched is if they have a valid suspicion beyond a reasonable doubt which can be upheld in court (it's their ass on the line).

If someone impounded my car for refusing a search here, I'd be calling a lawyer right quick. If you're too much of a pussy to act against a crooked cop, maybe you deserve getting your car impounded in the first place.

[White Jesus]

Well thats indefinite detention for ya.
Anyone over there actually still call it "the land of the free"?

[reject]

I don't see why people have this glorious notion that the police have to do everything by the book.

For sure take it to court, but unless you have taped evidence, the judge will ALWAYS side with the fuzz.

Most people who are like "I wouldn't have given consent, fuck the police, I'll sue them blahblah" are kids who've never dealt with the cops.

If you haven't done anything illegal, might as well just go along with it to save yourself a shitload of hastle.

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

I probably would have consented, too. Besides driving without a license, I don't ride dirty.

Even if I didn't, they would probably only further detain me by separating me physically from the scene, but otherwise still in public or possibly a squad car w/o cuffs. Eventually, they still would have gotten their man through process of elimination. The average American has nothing to hide. The unanimous nature of the searchees demonstrates this.

[Sober]

^You are completely missing the point.

[Cooking with Zyklon B]

Police have some leeway in how they interpret, enforce the law, in the sense that if you get pulled over for speeding, the officer has the discretion to nail you with a ticket or let you off with a warning. In my experiences, being respectful, and cooperative goes a long way in affecting their discretion.
The last two incidents I've had in dealing with the cops both could have ended with a public intoxication charge/ticket at the very least. I believe because I was respectful and cooperative they either let me go my own way, or in one case even gave me a ride to my destination. Just because you are respectful and cooperative you do not have to acquiesce to having your rights violated. You just need to be aware of your rights, and let the officer know that you know your rights, but in a respectful manner. Like the second to last encounter, I was obviously inebriated, I told the officers, "I do not consent to a search, however you may pat me down for your own assurances that I do not have any weapons or offensive objects." That let the officers know I understood my rights, but also let them know that I understand they have a job to do, all without being a douchebag screaming 'Fawk da Pooleese.'

Yea there are a lot of instances where the police do seem to be out of line, but the majority of law enforcement officers are just trying to do their job. If you understand that even though they are fucking with you, that's their job, it's your job to know your rights.

If you don't know your rights, the occasional power tripping cop will take advantage of your ignorance and get away with it too.