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06-16-2012, 04:42 AM
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Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
http://www.foregen.org/
Looks promising.
It seems anti-circumcision has been quite the rage recently. I know there are many methods of "regrowing" the foreskin but this would actually bring back all of the nerves lost during circumcision.
If you are circumcised would you go through with a potential stem cell regrowth? I certainly would.
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06-16-2012, 04:44 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
My god I wish I could get this.
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06-16-2012, 04:45 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
dumbest thing ive ever read. good thing doctors arent working on cancer treatment or something.
and i dont get the whol circumcision thing, who the fuck cares. but god knows you faggots are going to be fighting about it.
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06-16-2012, 04:47 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
Eh. Foreskin looks odd imo. Guess Its just teh porn/my dick talking though.
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06-16-2012, 04:49 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
I wouldn't take the risk, I wouldn't want my dick to get all messed up from abnormal foreskin growth or something, lol.
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06-16-2012, 04:52 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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dumbest thing ive ever read. good thing doctors arent working on cancer treatment or something.
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A few trials won't hurt the fight against cancer.
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and i dont get the whol circumcision thing, who the fuck cares. but god knows you faggots are going to be fighting about it.
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It sucks having a cut-cock. I wish I had had the choice myself and I never would have done it. My parents aren't even religious it was essentially the doctor's pressure. If I could pay to have it reversed I would do so in a heartbeat. Which is why I will donate a small amount to help get this project going.
And since you seemingly don't care, Mr. Pat-Man, would you mind selling me your foreskin? Some staples and tape and I'll be good as new.
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06-16-2012, 04:53 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
how much you gonna pay?
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06-16-2012, 04:54 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
On the real, my parents could afford a doctor that wasn't using a hack-saw. I have a porn-perfect cock.
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A few trials won't hurt the fight against cancer.
It sucks having a cut-cock. I wish I had had the choice myself and I never would have done it. My parents aren't even religious it was essentially the doctor's pressure. If I could pay to have it reversed I would do so in a heartbeat. Which is why I will donate a small amount to help get this project going.
And since you seemingly don't care, Mr. Pat-Man, would you mind selling me your foreskin? Some staples and tape and I'll be good as new.
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Why in the everlasting fuck do you want foreskin? If it was socially acceptable I'd tell women to get their meat-drapes surgically fixed too.
Ew.
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06-16-2012, 04:54 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
Why would you want foreskin?
Im just kinda used to not having it. I mean, why bother really?
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06-16-2012, 04:56 AM
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i don't understand why anyone would want foreskin if it was already gone.
esplain yourself lucy.
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06-16-2012, 04:56 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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how much you gonna pay?
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I'll give you a copy of Gogol's "Taras Bulba" and a pack of gum. C'mon, it's just an ugly flap of skin with absolutely no sexual function or nerves attached. Girls will think it looks better!
You really have nothing to lose except 30% of your cock.
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06-16-2012, 04:57 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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Why in the everlasting fuck do you want foreskin?
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hes european and dem euro bitches be thinkin hes a jew
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06-16-2012, 04:59 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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I'll give you a copy of Gogol's "Taras Bulba" and a pack of gum. C'mon, it's just an ugly flap of skin with absolutely no sexual function or nerves attached. Girls will think it looks better!
You really have nothing to lose except 30% of your cock.
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You lose 30% of the unasthetically pleasing loose and hanging skin, which over time would become more loose, more hangy, and then you'd have nasty disgusting old man dangling foreskin to go with your fantastically droopy balls, and flappy old man titties.
A future Foregen can help you look forward to.
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If jews are wealthy, wouldn't it be a good thing to be considered Jewish? Last I checked the controlled the entire world and everything in it; at least that's what everyone keeps telling me.
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06-16-2012, 05:02 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
This technology is way off, I know the people who started foregen. It's a movement to get research going, not to deliver a product. Considering it costs upwards of $200,000 just to apply to get FDA approval for human trials, they are a long way off financially. I support this, and being one of those weird dudes who "restored" his foreskin I can say that foreskin feels really good, much better than the over-tight dried out bullshit some doctor left me with decades ago, but you should not be under the impression that giving money to this organization will buy you your tissues back.
TL,DR: it's an exploratory research prospect, not a service.
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06-16-2012, 05:03 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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On the real, my parents could afford a doctor that wasn't using a hack-saw. I have a porn-perfect cock.
Why in the everlasting fuck do you want foreskin?
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Mine is "porn perfect" as well. Some men were cut too tight and this causes many problems.
As for "why" I would say because the foreskin (apparently) provides more pleasure. It has more fine-touch receptors and is the natural function for raw sex. Having my cock cut to appease the tribal mentality of the Jews and perverts makes me very angry.
The whole practice of circumcision started as a form of control. To curtail masturbation and pleasure so that men would stop. Like that worked.
Knowing that my parents and some Dr. dictated how my dick would look is very upsetting. People will say "but it looks better!" but only to those who are accustomed to circumcised cock. Frankly I don't think vaginas are the best looking but I still go down. Why must a man be cut against his will? All it does it change it to a certain societies standards, reduce pleasure and change the natural function.
And as for pleasure I obviously cannot say. I experience pleasure and of course cannot compare. But from what I have read it is drastically different. Even were it not it is still a disgusting trend of parents caring about their child's cock. Many times a father will say "I want him to look like me!" yet if he were missing an arm would he cut the child's arm off? Of course not. So why pay a Dr. to mutilate an infant's genitals, the most private and personal area, in the first few hours of life? If the child likes it then great. If not the child will have to deal with it during every sexual experience of his life.
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06-16-2012, 05:06 AM
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hes european and dem euro bitches be thinkin hes a jew
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This.
I always have to explain that I'm not a Jew, relax it's ok I'm not here to cast a spell or give you a mortgage, it was my parents thinking they were being "modern"...shhh. It's hard enough that every time my cock comes out I have to deal with blood-curdling screams of "Circumciiiiiiiiiiiiiiised! let alone explaining I'm not...... that.
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06-16-2012, 05:08 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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and i dont get the whol circumcision thing, who the fuck cares. but god knows you faggots are going to be fighting about it.
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It's the first act of Jewish aggression on many of us "gentiles". That alone gives us the moral authority to wage war on the Jews and grounds for an ethnic cleansing alone.
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06-16-2012, 05:10 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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I guess most people differ from me in the concept of "priority".

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Mowing someone else's lawn isn't one of my top priorities either but I'm not putting you down for it.
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06-16-2012, 05:11 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
alright bale ill sell you my foreskin for 200 bucks but its gonna look weird, my dick is very dark
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06-16-2012, 05:12 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
Or...
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... Just not have your penis mutilated to begin with.
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06-16-2012, 05:14 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
ITT: little victims of a feminized society defending their penis mutilation. The whole "girls think it looks better" argument is just lovely. In a what is supposed to be male dominated society, why should you care what women think?
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06-16-2012, 05:15 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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This technology is way off, I know the people who started it. It's a movement to get research going, not to deliver a product. Considering it costs upwards of $200,000 just to apply to get FDA approval, they are a long way off financially. I support this, and being one of those weird dudes who "restored" his foreskin I can say that foreskin feels really good, much better than the over-tight dried out bullshit some doctor left me with decades ago, but you should not be under the impression that giving money to this organization will buy you your tissues back.
TL,DR: it's an exploratory research prospect, not a service.
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Yeah I don't expect this to become commercial relatively soon. I still support it and will try to spread awareness in the hope it takes off.
How long did it take for your restoration? I've always considered manual methods but wasn't sure if it'd be worth it.
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alright bale ill sell you my foreskin for 200 bucks but its gonna look weird, my dick is very dark
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Sorry but I don't eat dark meat.
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06-16-2012, 05:16 AM
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Those jokes dont work when the person in question actually lives in mexico
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06-16-2012, 05:17 AM
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Those jokes dont work when the person in question actually lives in mexico
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who mows rich mexicans' lawns? guatemalans?
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06-16-2012, 05:19 AM
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Or...
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Well, ideally...
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06-16-2012, 05:24 AM
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How long did it take for your restoration? I've always considered manual methods but wasn't sure if it'd be worth it.
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I got where I wanted to be in a year, then got better coverage and mobility after another year. I had access to topical medications (topical estradiol and isotretinoin) that I believed helped accelerate the recovery of sensitivity (and shinyness, for lack of a better word) such that I saw insane gains in a month or so. The growth itself took a year, though. A common rule of thumb is one year per inch of new skin grown. For me it was faster, for some it's slower. It's common for people to get impatient and use too much tension (to the point of pain) and not get any gains.
Do manual methods, there's literally no downside. I wore a device and that was fucking annoying, to be honest. With manual methods you're just pulling on your penis, which most guys end up doing already, right? A couple of 15 minute sessions a day or something, maybe in the shower and right before bed, you get the idea. It's like... very little effort, just something you do regularly. You can either do this stupid thing for a few minutes each day and have a foreskin in a year or two, or you can do nothing and stay the way you are. If you want to become intact, why would you not do it?
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06-16-2012, 05:28 AM
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I got where I wanted to be in a year, then got better coverage and mobility after another year. I had access to topical medications (topical estradiol and isotretinoin) that I believed helped accelerate the recovery of sensitivity (and shinyness, for lack of a better word) such that I saw insane gains in a month or so. The growth itself took a year, though. A common rule of thumb is one year per inch of new skin grown.
Do manual methods, there's literally no downside. I wore a device and that was fucking annoying, to be honest. With manual methods you're just pulling on your penis, which most guys end up doing already, right? A couple of 15 minute sessions a day or something, maybe in the shower and right before bed, you get the idea. It's like... very little effort, just something you do regularly. You can either do this stupid thing for a few minutes each day and have a foreskin in a year or two, or you can do nothing and stay the way you are. If you want to become intact, why would you not do it?
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I will start tonight. I saw the manual method #2 which is what I'll be starting with.
The main reason I did not was always in hope for something like the stem-cells. But as you've said it will not be commercial for a very long time (if ever). And if I am ever able to have it done, I believe the process involves removing skin to attach the stem-cells, or something, in order to "regrow". So I doubt the manual process would interfere in any way.
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And were I ever able to have it done, I believe the process involves removing skin to attach the stem-cells, or something, in order to "regrow". So I doubt the manual process would interfere in any way.
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The TLC restoration forums are extremely helpful and informative. foreskin-restoration.net or something.
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Mine is "porn perfect" as well. Some men were cut too tight and this causes many problems.
As for "why" I would say because the foreskin (apparently) provides more pleasure. It has more fine-touch receptors and is the natural function for raw sex. Having my cock cut to appease the tribal mentality of the Jews and perverts makes me very angry.
The whole practice of circumcision started as a form of control. To curtail masturbation and pleasure so that men would stop. Like that worked.
Knowing that my parents and some Dr. dictated how my dick would look is very upsetting. People will say "but it looks better!" but only to those who are accustomed to circumcised cock. Frankly I don't think vaginas are the best looking but I still go down. Why must a man be cut against his will? All it does it change it to a certain societies standards, reduce pleasure and change the natural function.
And as for pleasure I obviously cannot say. I experience pleasure and of course cannot compare. But from what I have read it is drastically different. Even were it not it is still a disgusting trend of parents caring about their child's cock. Many times a father will say "I want him to look like me!" yet if he were missing an arm would he cut the child's arm off? Of course not. So why pay a Dr. to mutilate an infant's genitals, the most private and personal area, in the first few hours of life? If the child likes it then great. If not the child will have to deal with it during every sexual experience of his life.
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How does a newly born child know that it's penis is a personal and private area as opposed to any other part of it's body? I'm pretty sure that's something society teaches you, not an instinctive response. Did you know that it's been speculated that ALL negative emotion comes from the trauma of being born? Would you rather be dead than alive?
Unfortunately, it is more aesthetically pleasing to be cut. That's just the way it is. I'm not talking about your own goddamn definition I'm talking about societies so you can just shut the fuck up with what you were thinking, and Snoopy can shut up too.
I also don't like the "change natural function" part. Like we stated, if your doctor was competent it should not effect the function of your penis at all. I also really, REALLY doubt there is any kind of noticeable difference in pleasure since the shaft and the skin coating the shaft ain't exactly what's housing the large majority of nerves in your cock. Pinch the top layer of skin on the top of your dick-doesn't really hurt does it? In fact, can you feel it at all? Kinda like pinching your weenus huh? I WONDER WHY THAT IS ESSE? It's cause it ain't got a lot of nerve endings in it bruh. Not very many at all.
If you have a saggy, meat-drape like foreskin and she has the same and then it's like fuckin around with floppy bacon and just a disgusting merger of wrinkly and distorted looking flesh. Ick.
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I also don't like the "change natural function" part. Like we stated, if your doctor was competent it should not effect the function of your penis at all. I also really, REALLY doubt there is any kind of noticeable difference in pleasure since the shaft and the skin coating the shaft ain't exactly what's housing the large majority of nerves in your cock. Pinch the top layer of skin on the top of your dick-doesn't really hurt does it? In fact, can you feel it at all? Kinda like pinching your weenus huh? I WONDER WHY THAT IS ESSE? It's cause it ain't got a lot of nerve endings in it bruh. Not very many at all.
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This is empirically wrong. If your doctor were competent, he would follow the official recommendations of every medical organization in the world and wouldn't be trying to fix what was never broken. Furthermore, circumcision removes hundreds of thousands of erogenous nerve endings. There are many nerves in the foreskin as well as the frenulum, which is altogether destroyed in circumcision. Additionally, it changes the penis from a gliding, synergistic structure into a tight, friction-heavy broomstick, so, by definition, it will change sexual mechanics, adversely affecting the experience for male and female partners.
I'm sorry you think foreskins are so gross, you're certainly entitled to that. I try not to get too emotional about the aesthetics of strangers' penises, but you seem to have some deep-seated revulsion. Perhaps therapy might be a good investment?
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How does a newly born child know that it's penis is a personal and private area as opposed to any other part of it's body? I'm pretty sure that's something society teaches you, not an instinctive response. Did you know that it's been speculated that ALL negative emotion comes from the trauma of being born? Would you rather be dead than alive?
Unfortunately, it is more aesthetically pleasing to be cut. That's just the way it is. I'm not talking about your own goddamn definition I'm talking about societies so you can just shut the fuck up with what you were thinking, and Snoopy can shut up too.
I also don't like the "change natural function" part. Like we stated, if your doctor was competent it should not effect the function of your penis at all. I also really, REALLY doubt there is any kind of noticeable difference in pleasure since the shaft and the skin coating the shaft ain't exactly what's housing the large majority of nerves in your cock. Pinch the top layer of skin on the top of your dick-doesn't really hurt does it? In fact, can you feel it at all? Kinda like pinching your weenus huh? I WONDER WHY THAT IS ESSE? It's cause it ain't got a lot of nerve endings in it bruh. Not very many at all.
If you have a saggy, meat-drape like foreskin and she has the same and then it's like fuckin around with floppy bacon and just a disgusting merger of wrinkly and distorted looking flesh. Ick.
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You know we're European right?
It may be more "aesthetically pleasing" to some in the West, or to some Jews, but that's their problem. And really who gives a flying fuck how it looks. It's a sexual organ that is hidden from view most of the time. If a woman I was with refused to touch my cock because it weren't circumcised I'd get a woman who wasn't a full-blown cunt.
You're just basing all of this on your own cultural perceptions. You are thinking it is "ugly" and even "wrong" to have a naturally intact penis. Well I think it wrong to have a cut and distorted penis in order to appease sexually-repressed religions and gender-reversed women.
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06-16-2012, 05:54 AM
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Also you say how it dosn't have that many nerve endings? That's because the foreskin was cut off! Shit even wikipedia has all you need on foreskin and nerves. The fact that you can readily pinch and twist your cock should be enough of a sign that something is missing...
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Also you say how it dosn't have that many nerve endings? That's because the foreskin was cut off! Shit even wikipedia has all you need on foreskin and nerves. The fact that you can readily pinch and twist your cock should be enough of a sign that something is missing...
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Wikipedia also has a very in depth article on the Large Hadron Collider
That doesn't mean I'm going to understand it.
Are you a medical doctor or biologist?
*flies off in a puff of logic*
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This is empirically wrong. If your doctor were competent, he would follow the official recommendations of every medical organization in the world and wouldn't be trying to fix what was never broken. Furthermore, circumcision removes hundreds of thousands of erogenous nerve endings. There are many nerves in the foreskin as well as the frenulum, which is altogether destroyed in circumcision. Additionally, it changes the penis from a gliding, synergistic structure into a tight, friction-heavy broomstick, so, by definition, it will change sexual mechanics, adversely affecting the experience for male and female partners.
I'm sorry you think foreskins are so gross, you're certainly entitled to that. I try not to get too emotional about the aesthetics of strangers' penises, but you seem to have some deep-seated revulsion. Perhaps therapy might be a good investment?
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Ummm..I'm cut and I still have my frenulum. Sounds like you don't understand circumcisions very well? (amdittedly I don't either, but a quick google search told me this glaring contradiction in your post). Like I said, I'm pretty sure it varies extremely by doctor - because my dick isn't "tight" even when fully erect.
Just a little more food for thought (copy/pasted from wikipedia, notice how there are two sides to this argument, both from valid medical studies using sources)
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Ranked by self-reported degree of ratings of ‘sexual pleasure’ the most sensitive part of the penis is the ventral area 'underside of the glans', followed by "'underside of the penile shaft', 'upper side of the glans', 'left and right sides of the glans', 'one or both sides of the penis', 'upper side of the penile shaft', 'foreskin' (11 subjects), 'skin between the scrotum and anus', 'back side of the scrotum', 'front side of the scrotum', and 'around anus'"
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Cold and Taylor, citing Winkelmann, stated that the prepuce (foreskin) is primary erogenous tissue;[6] Alanis and Lucidi describe this as speculative and unproven.[7]
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^article they were citing: http://journals.lww.com/obgynsurvey/...&type=abstract
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Ummm..I'm cut and I still have my frenulum.
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No you don't, you may have the inner frenulum remnant, but you cannot be circumcised and have your entire frenulum intact. At least half of it is necessarily ablated by circumcision.
Since we're talking about food for thought, here's a fun fact about the circumcision article on Wikipedia: it's locked, and the only person allowed to edit it is a fellow by the name of Jake Waskett, a self-admitted circumcision fetishist with no medical background, and member of the pro-circ erotica group the Gilgal Society. He and Brian Morris (another circ fetishist with similar background and academic standing in a totally unrelated field) published one of those studies that "prove" the foreskin isn't important for male sexuality.
Now, you may be able to point to studies on both sides, I can bring up this one, for instance, but don't you feel that if you're going to be prescribing forced amputative surgery the burden of incontrovertible proof lies on you?
I'm just saying. I think it's an affront to common sense and my own anecdotal experience (I know that's not worth much) to say that the foreskin isn't important for sexuality, but I can accept that my knowledge isn't conclusive proof that I'm right. However, it follows that anyone who claims the opposite doesn't have conclusive proof that they're right either.
So... if we don't really know what functions we're removing (or not removing) when we're circumcising, and it's a permanent change, we really ought not be doing it. At least not to those who can't even speak, let alone sign a consent form.
People look at this like pro-circ or anti-circ and what they really ought to do is err on the side of "pro-choice." It's fucked up that the penis is the only part of the body to which we as a society do not apply central principles of contemporary bioethics.
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06-16-2012, 07:44 AM
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I find it funny/disturbing that these religious groups are often the main supporters of circumcision. Why would God create an imperfect man? Is it not spiteful to say "thanks for my penis, but I will correct your mistake and make it better?" Sounds rather blasphemous to me. Of course religion is based more on control than rationale so it's easily understood.
If one wishes to be circumcised then they have the choice. Yet that choice should never be inflicted upon an unwilling individual. De Sade wrote in "120 Days of Sodom" that in order to achieve maximum pleasure a man should undergo circumcision. I have always wondered about this but I believe the results to be short-term. Again, this is a fictional-novel yet it struck me as odd that the "Sexual Libertine" would have one of his characters say this. Anyways I assume he is referring to the immediate exposure of the glands which may be most intense in raw sex after circumcision. But as any circumcised man should know the glands are dulled considerably after left out in the open.
It is not about appearance and let's just say it is not about pleasure. It is about cutting 30% of the cock off for without the man's consent. That's fucked up, and that's the end of the argument. No more tribal bullshit.
To further this thread: I am starting manual method 2 tonight. I have decided not to wait for this trial to be proven nor will I wait for it to become commercial. If it does in the future it is always an option. For now I will make use with what I have and that is a circumcised cock, two hands and the patience to restore as close as I can.
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