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06-16-2012, 07:45 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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No you don't, you may have the inner frenulum remnant, but you cannot be circumcised and have your entire frenulum intact. At least half of it is necessarily ablated by circumcision.
Since we're talking about food for thought, here's a fun fact about the circumcision article on Wikipedia: it's locked, and the only person allowed to edit it is a fellow by the name of Jake Waskett, a self-admitted circumcision fetishist with no medical background, and member of the pro-circ erotica group the Gilgal Society. He and Brian Morris (another circ fetishist with similar background and academic standing in a totally unrelated field) published one of those studies that "prove" the foreskin isn't important for male sexuality.
Now, you may be able to point to studies on both sides, I can bring up this one, for instance, but don't you feel that if you're going to be prescribing forced amputative surgery the burden of incontrovertible proof lies on you?
I'm just saying. I think it's an affront to common sense and my own anecdotal experience (I know that's not worth much) to say that the foreskin isn't important for sexuality, but I can accept that my knowledge isn't conclusive proof that I'm right. However, it follows that anyone who claims the opposite doesn't have conclusive proof that they're right either.
So... if we don't really know what functions we're removing (or not removing) when we're circumcising, and it's a permanent change, we really ought not be doing it. At least not to those who can't even speak, let alone sign a consent form.
People look at this like pro-circ or anti-circ and what they really ought to do is err on the side of "pro-choice." It's fucked up that the penis is the only part of the body to which we as a society do not apply central principles of contemporary bioethics.
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IDK, I'm going to do more reading, but every thing I've come across so far from personal anecdote to medical journal has lead me to believe that their really is no difference. There's pros and cons on both sides and at the end of the day, there would NEVER be a "pro-choice" option because no/almost no men would voluntarily elect to have a scalpel within cutting distance of their genitalia, for any reason, at all. It's one of those things where you either ban it outright and altogether, or just hush up and let people carry on with it.
Anyways, my dick doesn't hurt when I fuck, and the 20% decrease in erogenous nerve endings just means I can pound that shit 20% longer so WHATEVER, pros and cons again man.
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06-16-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
lol circumcision really hurts these niggas feelings
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06-16-2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
I'm glad I wasn't butchered at birth.
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06-16-2012, 02:46 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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I'm glad I wasn't butchered at birth.
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That's probably because you are overly effeminate and you've been neutered by your parents mentally.
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06-16-2012, 02:51 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
i've done this trial even though i have a foreskin.
it's now as long as the channel tunnel. before i go to bed i feed it out of the window so that i don't have to get up to piss in the night.
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06-16-2012, 03:12 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
I ordered those expecting brine shrimp like everyone else but instead I have a jumbo shrimp.
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06-17-2012, 02:50 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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IDK, I'm going to do more reading, but every thing I've come across so far from personal anecdote to medical journal has lead me to believe that their really is no difference. There's pros and cons on both sides and at the end of the day, there would NEVER be a "pro-choice" option because no/almost no men would voluntarily elect to have a scalpel within cutting distance of their genitalia, for any reason, at all. It's one of those things where you either ban it outright and altogether, or just hush up and let people carry on with it.
Anyways, my dick doesn't hurt when I fuck, and the 20% decrease in erogenous nerve endings just means I can pound that shit 20% longer so WHATEVER, pros and cons again man.
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lol why even argue, people are going to look at their wangs, and support circumcision if they're circumcised, and vice-versa. No cut people are going to leave this thread thinking that uncut is better, no matter what is said.
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06-17-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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I got where I wanted to be in a year, then got better coverage and mobility after another year. I had access to topical medications (topical estradiol and isotretinoin) that I believed helped accelerate the recovery of sensitivity (and shinyness, for lack of a better word) such that I saw insane gains in a month or so. The growth itself took a year, though. A common rule of thumb is one year per inch of new skin grown. For me it was faster, for some it's slower. It's common for people to get impatient and use too much tension (to the point of pain) and not get any gains.
Do manual methods, there's literally no downside. I wore a device and that was fucking annoying, to be honest. With manual methods you're just pulling on your penis, which most guys end up doing already, right? A couple of 15 minute sessions a day or something, maybe in the shower and right before bed, you get the idea. It's like... very little effort, just something you do regularly. You can either do this stupid thing for a few minutes each day and have a foreskin in a year or two, or you can do nothing and stay the way you are. If you want to become intact, why would you not do it?
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But how the fuck did it look WHILE you were growing it? I'm sure you didn't get laid.
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06-17-2012, 03:11 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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Eh. Foreskin looks odd imo. Guess Its just teh porn/my dick talking though.
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When was the last time you saw an unerect dick in porn? A hard dick with foreskin looks just like a circumcised cock. Or it's supposed to. Fucking phimosis.
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No cut people are going to leave this thread thinking that uncut is better, no matter what is said.
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Which strikes me as silly. I could see the uncut guys being unwilling to change their minds - doing so would mean taking a knife to their dick. Cut guys have nothing to lose and everything to gain. :\
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06-17-2012, 07:19 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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But how the fuck did it look WHILE you were growing it? I'm sure you didn't get laid.
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It's not going to look horrific during the regrowth. The method involves slowly expanding the skin, over a period of months or possibly years. So it's probably a natural and subtle look until those periodic gains come in.
Anyways, I told my girl the plan and she laughed and said she'd "give me a hand." I'm liking this restoration thing already!
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06-17-2012, 09:18 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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But how the fuck did it look WHILE you were growing it? I'm sure you didn't get laid.
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False. I got all kinds of laid. Thanks for asking!
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06-17-2012, 09:24 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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No cut people are going to leave this thread thinking that uncut is better, no matter what is said.
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If that was true then nobody would ever attempt restoration.
I'm cut and I strongly suspect uncut is better for reasons that are immediately apparent to anyone with eyes as well as many reports of improved sexual pleasure in those that have restored.
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06-17-2012, 09:26 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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at the end of the day, there would NEVER be a "pro-choice" option because no/almost no men would voluntarily elect to have a scalpel within cutting distance of their genitalia, for any reason, at all.
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So... a practice is so brutal a rational adult would not consent to it, even knowing all the supposed pros and cons, and the only way to continue it is to force it upon infants.
Sounds like a good procedure to me!
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06-20-2012, 03:31 AM
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i've done this trial even though i have a foreskin.
it's now as long as the channel tunnel. before i go to bed i feed it out of the window so that i don't have to get up to piss in the night. 
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lol snorkel dick
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06-20-2012, 05:19 AM
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One of the first girl's I fucked didn't have much experience herself. We would usually lay in bed and just start grinding and shit. Needless to say my dick was already hard by the time she ever saw it. We fucked all the time for about a year.
Well a few year's later I hear she's having a little boy and she's talking about getting him cut, and i'm like you shouldn't do that to your little boy. And she start's talking like, "what? your circumsized right? I always thought you were.".
Dumb bitches, I mean when I was in middle school and high school I was insecure about not being circumsized, but now i'm glad I wasn't. This just show's that an erect cock look's the same whether you are or not. One day I was extremely fucked up on heroin and my mom was talking to my sister about getting my nephew cut and I was like, "mom i'm glad i'm not cut lol" and she was like, you are it just grew back! But I don't know about that.
I mean I can choose to walk around all day with the skin pulled all the way back and it doesn't try to cover up or anything, and I can choose to "cover up" lol if I want to. So maybe it did grow back? I mean I got the best of both world's I guess.
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06-20-2012, 06:31 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
or a terrible circumcision job.
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06-20-2012, 06:39 AM
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Best of both worlds? Sounds more like you were circumcised and now have some pre-cancerous foreskin analog.
Let's hope for the sake of mankind that this thing is not contagious.
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06-20-2012, 06:54 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
just added to my yoga routine
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06-20-2012, 10:38 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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Best of both worlds? Sounds more like you were circumcised and now have some pre-cancerous foreskin analog.
Let's hope for the sake of mankind that this thing is not contagious.
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Nah everything look's and work's great. I was so subconscious when I was younger I think I just trained myself to where I could keep it out when I wanted. And I think I just caught my mom off guard when she was talking to my sister because after all I was messed up.
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06-21-2012, 07:48 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
Couple days of stretching, about 5-10 minutes total each day. The hardest part is just remembering to do it but I would be ecstatic with results in a year or two.
Reggie_Love: Do you have increased sensitivity beyond the glands? Obviously the various nerve endings will not grow back, but I am curious as to whether or not the existing ones are enhanced in any way.
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06-21-2012, 08:18 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
Fuck that, I love my penis just the way it is.
Edit: How the fuck can an un-cut man and a cut man compare the pleasure they experience?
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06-21-2012, 08:38 AM
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That's probably because you are overly effeminate and you've been neutered by your parents mentally.
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How can one whose penis is not complete call another "overly effeminate" when said another has intact penis? asks Rolf curiously.
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06-21-2012, 12:19 PM
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Fuck that, I love my penis just the way it is.
Edit: How the fuck can an un-cut man and a cut man compare the pleasure they experience?
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Uncut man gets circumcised, compares before & after.
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06-21-2012, 01:55 PM
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I'm not cut, I don't have much to say about the topic though. I think some uncut dicks look gross, like dr watson said, if the foreskin is TOO loose, but some cut dicks look just as gross (not that I'm a master of dicks or anything, but hey, I have watched porn for 10 hours straight on meth my share of times). In the end, I'd say it's a bad idea to FORCE circumcision on babies, but when it's consensual for the person getting it, there's no right answer. It's whatever they want.
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06-21-2012, 01:56 PM
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My dick is like picture perfect. I'm no 10 incher, but a bit above average in length and way above average in girth, and not cut. Before I couldn't get it up anymore cause of opiates, I used to really get girls off, and I've had my ex girlfriend cum on my dick before. There's more nerves on the outside of the vagina than deep inside, so big girth means a LOT.
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06-21-2012, 02:08 PM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
The only reason circumcision isn't outright illegal is the Jews.
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06-22-2012, 02:08 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
What happens if you already have your foreskin and use this forgen system.
double foreskin? or like a long foreskin that you can hide candies for children in?
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06-22-2012, 03:04 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
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One of the first girl's I fucked didn't have much experience herself. We would usually lay in bed and just start grinding and shit. Needless to say my dick was already hard by the time she ever saw it. We fucked all the time for about a year.
Well a few year's later I hear she's having a little boy and she's talking about getting him cut, and i'm like you shouldn't do that to your little boy. And she start's talking like, "what? your circumsized right? I always thought you were.". 
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lol yep, most people unfamiliar who are unfamiliar with uncircumcised dicks tend to think everyone who isn't cut has a massive hood. Even the pics uncircumcised Akagi posted are pretty extreme. I've had a couple girls not believe I was uncut initially by looks, condoms basically make it seem like a circumcised cock.
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06-22-2012, 03:04 AM
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What happens if you already have your foreskin and use this forgen system.
double foreskin? or like a long foreskin that you can hide candies for children in?
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Naw, cause then they could use stem cells to grow the shaft longer as well, and our hotmail accounts would already be flooded with e-mails about it.
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06-22-2012, 03:11 AM
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Edit: How the fuck can an un-cut man and a cut man compare the pleasure they experience?
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the level of tactile sensation is almost completely dependent upon how many neural connections there are (going from nerve endings to neurons). More nerves means more neurons can receive electrical impulses.
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The only reason circumcision isn't outright illegal is the Jews.
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Jews are also the reason circumcision even became routine.
Jews wanted to homogenize America during the time of nazism so that jews could not be differentiated from normal people, thus forcing the nazi superiors to kill innocent people along with the jews which is exactly what they wanted because they knew it would bring more people to arms to do all the fighting on behalf of the jewish cause
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Bottom line is I have foreskin, and I'm better than people who don't.
I know all my uncut, or should I say naturale, brothers agree.
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Jews are also the reason circumcision even became routine
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In the west, yes, but in Africa they have been mutilating male and female genitals for thousands of years.
One of the main downsides I see to being circumcised is the use of lube for fapping. I guess you could go without it, but what if you want to spontaneously violently fap?
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if circumcision was actually better then humans would never have evolved their foreskin in the first place
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06-24-2012, 12:27 AM
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I wouldn't take the risk, I wouldn't want my dick to get all messed up from abnormal foreskin growth or something, lol.
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I feel the same, like "well, they did fucking chop my penis to bits when I was born, but I wonder if having people artificially fuck with my body even more would undo the damage."
If I ever had a kid I'd make sure they leave his dick alone. Can you believe one of my friends felt weird for having a foreskin?
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I feel the same, like "well, they did fucking chop my penis to bits when I was born, but I wonder if having people artificially fuck with my body even more would undo the damage."
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I had those same thoughts. After a surgery to regrow it (stem cell or not) I am sure one would have to take hormones in order to not get an erection and disrupt the healing process.
I am going on the method now of "regrowing" by slowly stretching the skin over a period of months or years. It won't have the same structure, obviously, but it will have the same function and appearance. It's my way of saying "fuck you" to the people who did this to me.
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If I ever had a kid I'd make sure they leave his dick alone. Can you believe one of my friends felt weird for having a foreskin?
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I can believe it.
I'm European so people think it's strange. The girl I'm with now was almost in tears when I had to explain what happened; she had never heard of it before. The look on her face was of complete shock and near anger.
I have learned to avoid most American women -or anyone- who says "cut looks better." It's just a means of control on men. They get rid of the most sensitive part of the cock and this leads to endless cycles of horniness, near satisfaction yet that itch ain't fully scratched. Then send off all the circumcised men to war and let them fire a big ol' cock at some brownies and get their frustration out. No wonder most western women are entitled, disgusting pigs. They subliminally neuter the men into a collection of cum spraying passive-aggressive turds who grow up into nothing more than saddened puppy-dog ATMs.
Yeah, I went psycho-Freud on circumcision. Come at me Dr. PAPAPAPSMEARFUCKFACE your arguments are shit boy.
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This.
I always have to explain that I'm not a Jew, relax it's ok I'm not here to cast a spell or give you a mortgage, it was my parents thinking they were being "modern"...shhh. It's hard enough that every time my cock comes out I have to deal with blood-curdling screams of "Circumciiiiiiiiiiiiiiised! let alone explaining I'm not......that.
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Lol, good old fashioned European bigotry. Fuck 'em.
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I have learned to avoid most American women -or anyone- who says "cut looks better." It's just a means of control on men. They get rid of the most sensitive part of the cock and this leads to endless cycles of horniness, near satisfaction yet that itch ain't fully scratched. Then send off all the circumcised men to war and let them fire a big ol' cock at some brownies and get their frustration out. No wonder most western women are entitled, disgusting pigs. They subliminally neuter the men into a collection of cum spraying passive-aggressive turds who grow up into nothing more than saddened puppy-dog ATMs.
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Drain his pipes! Drain him dry!!
Just a story: I noticed a week's worth of newspapers outside an open door, found my old neighbor's dead yellow body with bottles of booze around it and had to call the police up. They said his mouth was full of maggots (so if you die from drinking, expect to have maggots in your mouth within a week). There's youre purple heart army vet that got divorced, injured, walking with a cane, all alone and looked out his window paranoid everyday, afraid to live (and they did find a giant box of guns in his house). There's your victory for being macho man. Nobody remembers you and nobody cares.
"In the Culture of Death, a man is only a man when his penis is hard and he is able to ejaculate" - Mony Vital.
"The average American male reaches orgasm in one and a half minutes, and usually performed in a dark room, so that it ca be finished furtively before the sex-hating Christian God has time to notice what is going on" - Robert Anton Wilson
I think it's a lot of conditioning, I -try- not to take them serious. I did work in a bank making good money with loads of Italian Jewish just like in the vid above. I know exactly how they are and it's ironic that 99% of the people in a BANK were Italian women (Oh of course only the fairest, as the male boss would only hire, as the story goes in many workplaces, unfortunately). From my experience I will say the one noticably dead quiet, thin "holistic" childless woman there was hated, and this is just something that is always going to exist. She looked like a version of Madonna plus every sign of an Indian meditator in her behavior, and people just didn't like her for it. Self respect and dignity is the hardest battle to fight in this world.
I have had the luxury to spend a few nights with a woman of East Indian descent... and I can say these people definitely have maturity right in their DNA. Not to be racist... but being the man I want to be feels like an endless battle and a fight with wealthy American Italians...
You can't win. Can't win because it shouldn't be a fight. I know what you mean though.
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06-28-2012, 02:32 AM
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Re: Grow Your Foreskin Back With Stem Cells!
You guys are forgetting a major argument. You can't hide several oxycontin pills, or other types of pills in a circumsized dick. Not being funny, think about it.. seriously. You're pulled over, you have 5 oxy 40's on you.. what are you gonna do? How do you sneak them in jail when they check your ass? Stick them in your foreskin! They don't check inside your dick.
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