Who is the most wise and contributive metaphysicist?

[Ambient]

So, i wonder who you think is the wisest, perhaps the most enlightened poster in this forum.( although based on the heavily socially constructed definitions and conceptions outlined in the "enlightenment" post im inclined not to use that phrase).

Who has made contributions that would functionally and structurally change this forums thoughtscape.

I would be inclined to say greyfox (although he is a mod), i dont like him so much- but i recognise he makes a decent contribution to this forum.

But i would say either kurdt318 (sp) or resighn the king, because they have esoteric knowledge and know how to justify themselves.

Note: This a value judgement on wisdom, so make it ontologically from wisdom- not like or dislike.

Oh and how can i forgot BrokeProphet- the pinacle of spiritual wisdom!

Wisdom- The quality of one who is realized. A realization by metaphysical definition is understood completly between those who are realized.

So, in many ways i am saying who is the most realized- or at least who comes across in this manner.

[poast-bortem!]

I am the most wise and "contributive."

[Midnight Sun]

Mr. HAI.

[Ambient]

^^

Please go back to HB or SG or whatever you crawled out from under.

[poast-bortem!]

I'd say Mcgruber is most wise and "contributive."

[Blunderfail]

I don't think you can really compare things like wisdom. For example, people may think greyfox is wise, while I think he's just batshit insane.

For "contributive" though, I'll choose him. I mean, he has to travel through jungles and snowstorms just to post here.

Habanero - lol.

[reallystupidstuff]

Snoopy

[Ambient]

Originally Posted by Blunderful

I don't think you can really compare things like wisdom.

Well i can see you lack wisdom in many ways; first and foremost because you do not realize what true wisdom is.

So i have given a definition to help you and others in your situation out.

I have already said- do not evaluate according to ethnographic bias, there is no such thing as ethnicity in metaphysics.

[poast-bortem!]

I'm changing my mind.

I'm going to have to say BLACKCOCKLOVER is the most wise and "contributive."

[Blunderfail]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Well i can see you lack wisdom in many ways; first and foremost because you do not realize what true wisdom is.

So i have given a definition to help you and others in your situation out.

I have already said- do not evaluate according to ethnographic bias, there is no such thing as ethnicity in metaphysics.

Uh... yeah, sorry dude... you can't really compare things like wisdom. A child may have more wisdom than any of us - they see things differently. But how do we know for sure? You can't compare it. There's no point in trying. Sorry... It's nothing to do with bias. Hopefully someone can explain it better than me. I'm not very good with words.

[PirateJoe]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

ontologically

You really like that word, don't you?

And I too think Greyfox is a pretty upstanding contributor. He and I don't see eye to eye on the details of it, but I do very much agree with his overarching theme of unity and compassion. I guess in that sense, it doesn't matter at all what your personal philosophy is, as long as at the end of the day, you're having a positive effect on the world.

Oh and how can i forgot BrokeProphet- the pinacle of spiritual wisdom!

Nah, he's a smart guy. And there's nothing that says you have to believe in ancient mayan calendars, the age of pisces, or any other "esoteric" mumbo jumbo to be a spiritual human being.

So i have given a definition to help you and others in your situation out.

Doesn't help us much, and could ultimately be boiled down to "Wisdom: the quality of one who is wise" I'll take Webster's, thank you very much.

[JoePedo]

Naturally, I nominate myself as posessed of limitless wisdom and inherent superiority to everyone else, having disposed of the weakness of ego-attachment.

Carry on.

[defect]

Everyone in this thread except for killthewhiteman.

[LiquidIce]

Hard to say. Resign the King makes some very good points. Haven't seen BrokeProphet around much.

Dunno about Greyfox, I'd have to read more of him to evaluate him. Killallthewhiteman drops out in the beginnings because he uses smart sounding words without the need to use them and thinks in 'absolutes' ie. absolute wisdom, and the path to it is linear, thus you can compare people who is more wise.

Blunderful just came around to this forum. JoePedo doesn't post here much, but he's got fucktons of knowledge.

[Ambient]

Well you know if i believed i was worthy of this nomination i would have expressed that in the title lawl, im not just being impartial.

I know that first rule of communication is your communication must be taylored for the listener, and if i use "big words unnecacerily" (that i cant even spell ) then yes, that is unwise.

I dont think their is only one absolute wisdom, but wisdom is definitive.

I say wisdom is the capability of an individual to express their realization articulatly and be grounded and confident in their ontological perspective.

In short: ontologically articulate.

And yes i like that word, but what is metaphysics without ontology?

If we cant agree on what is wise, then perhaps we can agree on what is contributive?

[Blunderfail]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Well you know if i believed i was worthy of this nomination i would have expressed that in the title lawl, im not just being impartial.

I know that first rule of communication is your communication must be taylored for the listener, and if i use "big words unnecacerily" (that i cant even spell ) then yes, that is unwise.

I dont think their is only one absolute wisdom, but wisdom is definitive.

I say wisdom is the capability of an individual to express their realization articulatly and be grounded and confident in their ontological perspective.

In short: ontologically articulate.

And yes i like that word, but what is metaphysics without ontology?

If we cant agree on what is wise, then perhaps we can agree on what is contributive?

Yeah... contributive is trying to create a discussion/make this forum grow. lol, btw, contributive isn't a word. That's why everyone was writing it in inverted commas.

[Mantikore]

theyre all kooks here

but i reckon kurdt is the coolest of the bunch

[LiquidIce]

Originally Posted by Mantikore

theyre all kooks here

but i reckon kurdt is the coolest of the bunch

He can say many things in few words. And he doesn't prance about talking how much enlightened and cool he is, how high his level is, how his Truchipuchi is strong and other such stuff.

[Ambient]

Originally Posted by Blunderful

contributive isn't a word.

Wow kickass, i just invented a new word!

[harry_hardcore_hoedown]

None of them. Metaphysics is bullshit.

[Ambient]

Originally Posted by harry_hardcore_hoedown

None of them. Metaphysics is bullshit.

Oh, so i suppose there is a different reality for every existance?

It makes far more sense that reality is the product of my existance, and that when i die reality ceases to exist.

Infact, did you know metaphysics is bullshit?

There actually isnt one reality for humans, theres 6 billion realities!

One for each and every human!

[harry_hardcore_hoedown]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Oh, so i suppose there is a different reality for every existance?

It makes far more sense that reality is the product of my existance, and that when i die reality ceases to exist.

Infact, did you know metaphysics is bullshit?

There actually isnt one reality for humans, theres 6 billion realities!

One for each and every human!

[PirateJoe]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Oh, so i suppose there is a different reality for every existance?

It makes far more sense that reality is the product of my existance, and that when i die reality ceases to exist.

Infact, did you know metaphysics is bullshit?

There actually isnt one reality for humans, theres 6 billion realities!

One for each and every human!

How can you even think that that logic works?

"if metaphysics is bullshit, then reality must not exist"

I see no reason why there can't be a true reality, as well as a lack of metaphysics.

[The Jitterskull]

Originally Posted by PirateJoe

How can you even think that that logic works?

"if metaphysics is bullshit, then reality must not exist"

I see no reason why there can't be a true reality, as well as a lack of metaphysics.

I see no reality why there can't be a true reason.

[John "fuck indians" Wayne]

No one on here. Not hardly.

[Dream of the iris]

I vote to close this topic immediately. It serves no purpose but to glorify one over the other.

[Obbe]

The scale is arbitrary. There is no "best".

[Scrilla]

Dream of the Iris, and Greyfox for sure.

[Rizzo in a box]

None among man are wise.

Nor are any just, or good.

Let he who is without sin...get stoned.

[Ambient]

Well piratejoe, i was being sarcastic.

Metaphysics is essentialy the study of reality, what is real and what is not real- so the concept of reality is kind of fundamental.

This thread was not meant to gratify the ego.

There are many people in this existance that we should seek to emulate because they are virtous and live in the mode of goodness; they offer transcadental knowledge.

And for those people who offer tha on this forum i am grateful and think we should be aware of these people and their contributions, IMO.

[Rizzo in a box]

Originally Posted by Killallthewhiteman420

Well piratejoe, i was being sarcastic.

Metaphysics is essentialy the study of reality, what is real and what is not real- so the concept of reality is kind of fundamental.

This thread was not meant to gratify the ego.

There are many people in this existance that we should seek to emulate because they are virtous and live in the mode of goodness; they offer transcadental knowledge.

And for those people who offer tha on this forum i am grateful and think we should be aware of these people and their contributions, IMO.

I offer you instead a dictionary.

[ArmsMerchant]

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

It serves no purpose but to glorify one over the other.

Agreed. This is exactly the sort of ad hominem stuff with is fatal to spirituality. Verily is it written, judge not lest ye be judged--and this thread is all about making judgements.

However, closing it would also give the malcontents something else to be malcontent about--so off to the trashcan it goes--but with a permanent redirect.

[LiquidIce]

Since, according to your beliefs, this is bad for spirituality, you move to the trashcan? This topic is linked to the topic of this forum - the ambiguous case if 'metaphysicist' is directed at 'smart-talkie' people in general or just the people who hang around Metaphysics? And there was no shitstorm here or anything.