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Old 08-15-2013, 12:29 AM
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Default Abrin Extraction and Purification

I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to easily extract and make abrin poison from the abrus precatorius (rosary pea) seeds.

I have found this procedure for extracting and purifying ricin from castor beans:
"Procedure:

1. Obtain some castor beans from a garden supply store.
2. Put about 2 ounces of hot water into a glass jar and add a teaspoon full of lye. Mix it thoroughly.
3. Wait for the lye/water mixture to cool
4. Place 2 ounces of the beans into the liquid and let them soak for one hour.
5. Pour out the liquid being careful not to get any on exposed skin.
6. Rinse the beans off with cool water and then remove the outer husks with tweezers.
7. Put the bean pulp into a blender or coffee grinder with 4 ounces of acetone for every 1 oz. of beans.
8. Blend the pulp/acetone until it looks like milk.
9. Place the milky substance in a glass jar with an airtight lid for three days.
10. At the end of three days shake the jar to remix everything that’s started to settle then pour it into a coffee filter. Discard the liquid.
11. When no more liquid is dripping through the filter, squeeze the last of the acetone out of it without losing any of the bean pulp.
12. Spread the filter out on a pan covered with newspaper and let it dry stand until it is dry.
13. The final product must be as free of acetone and other contaminants as possible. If it is not powdery but still sort of moist and pulpy it must be combined with the appropriate amount of acetone again and let sit for one day.
14. Then repeat steps 9-12 again until a nice dry powder is produced."

Can this same technique be used with the rosary pea seeds or is there a better method?
I also don't know if manganese heptoxide could be used to purify abrin as it can with ricin.

Thanks for any help.

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Old 08-15-2013, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Abrin Extraction and Purification

I don't think you want to mess with abrin man.... It's so damn toxic I don't even think terrorists would want to mess with it.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:38 AM
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Abrin Extraction and Purification

This is all theoretical of course, but if I were to come into contact with it I would wear a mask, goggles, and gloves while handling it to avoid any contact with the skin or eyes and to avoid inhalation. Would that not be sufficient protection?
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:41 PM
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I wouldn't just wear gloves, this isn't something that any amateur chemist should take a whack at. Your lab equipment and working area all have to be perfect. A tyvek suit should be something to look into as well.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: Abrin Extraction and Purification

Wow, that shit is fantastically toxic via inhalation. Even more so then VX. Not as bad as botulinum though. I would use a glovebox, when you are done seal your product in an ampule and use 10% bleach over everything to decontaminate. Better yet, don't fuck with it. Governments really shit their panties over this sort of thing, infact they will no doubt be reading this thread, dick in hand and mouth watering.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:41 PM
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That's true. Not worth risking my own life to try to create it and even if I thought I could safely, no need to risk black vans stalking me. Was curious as to how dangerous it actually is to obtain. *stamped* TOO DAMN LETHAL.
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