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Old 05-24-2009, 01:58 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

The internet just seems boring and diluted now. It's just not exciting for me anymore. I guess I'm just surfing the wrong wave.

Any links, or guides would be great.
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It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:16 AM
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It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.
Damn, that's a shame.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:20 AM
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It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.
Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:23 AM
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It's fucking awesome when you know how to use it because you can find all sorts of random information.

I was looking for some info on this (used to have a bunch of places bookmarked), forgot about it, and now just remembered. will n33d f0r z1n3
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:48 AM
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oh man I just came up on so much relevant and useful information lololol FUCK GOOGLE & Pubmed and shit.

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Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!
Hahaha random porn diallers installing themselves on your computer really bring back the memories.
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When i saw this thread title i thought you were referring to websites on the tor network.
I was wrong, but this looks very interesting!
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Fucking good days man.

I remember I was searching around hacking sites and came on a website and there was an image of a cop car with flashing sirens and the message 'your IP has been logged: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'. I shit myself and yanked the plug out of my computer.

Then there's SubSeven....
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^ I remember some totsean motherfucker linking me to a page like that, and I shat bricks.
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Deep web is just servers without domains and/or not on search engines.

Real cool stuff would be a VPN darknet. Which is just a private VPN with full encryption and acces controll where you make the rules...
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As I understand from the wiki, the "deep web" is just dynamically generated web content along with other web content inaccessible by search engines. Nothing /dark/ about it.

On a somewhat related note - The concept of freenet is pretty cool. http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html
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Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.


It's like this.

1. Zok wants to share his amateur porn stash of Oprah Winfrey with someone.

2. Zok uploads it to zoklet.net/oprahporn/ and allows virtual directory listing for that directory.

3. Zok tells friend over phone.

4. Nothing links to zoklet.net/oprahporn/, so it's not listed on search engines.

You'll notice that this "ultra-1337 s3kr1t intarnet" is a lot more boring than the crap you made up about it. How did I discover it? Usually, by having FTP access on a fucking server. What's there? Mostly completely boring odds and ends swapped for working on a project. Who all has access to it? Anyone who's ever met someone who's had a server.

Yawn. It's really fucking not that interesting or new.
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Not that hard....

Deepweb isn't that exciting really. You'd be surprised at how much crap really isn't there. It's quite interesting for a bit to dial into thousands of IP's and see some of the weird shit that comes up, but it's really nothing special. Every once in a great while you'll hit on something good but the ratio isn't enough to keep me interested. Thing is though, a lot of the actual cool stuff is on non standard web ports. So trying thousands of IP's on different ports becomes tedious as fuck.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:49 AM
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there's still totse on the dark internet.
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there's still totse on the dark internet.
It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.
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It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.
Yeah, what's going on is he shut down Totse.

Also, would Zoklet On The Go be considered invisible Internet?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

The internet just seems boring and diluted now. It's just not exciting for me anymore. I guess I'm just surfing the wrong wave.

Any links, or guides would be great.
Don't know if this will help, but this is something I came across about the invisible web recently.

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/Teaching...isibleWeb.html
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It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.
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how about internet2? apparently universitys are using it
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how about internet2? apparently universitys are using it
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Not that hard....

Deepweb isn't that exciting really. You'd be surprised at how much crap really isn't there. It's quite interesting for a bit to dial into thousands of IP's and see some of the weird shit that comes up, but it's really nothing special. Every once in a great while you'll hit on something good but the ratio isn't enough to keep me interested. Thing is though, a lot of the actual cool stuff is on non standard web ports. So trying thousands of IP's on different ports becomes tedious as fuck.
from what i understand (which is fuckall) someone should create a database for interesting ip adreses.
also from waht i understand its sorta like you dial an ip adress and any website or anything they have put on the internet you can see
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from what i understand (which is fuckall) someone should create a database for interesting ip adreses.
You're welcome to start; just start typing everything from "http://0.0.0.0/" to "http://255.255.255.255/" into your browser. Bonus points if you portscan each on telnet.

It's still not going to dig up most of the really boring thing that's being discussed, however. That's because it mostly consists of someone who runs a website throwing random shit into an unlinked directory.

Seriously. Nearly everyone who has run a website has done this at somepoint or another. Get yourself a free geoshitties website sometime and see if you can figure out when or why someone might do these things.

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also from waht i understand its sorta like you dial an ip adress and any website or anything they have put on the internet you can see
Bit more complex; there's shit like ports and .htaccess.

But fuck, basically, close enough for now, yeah.
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You're welcome to start; just start typing everything from "http://0.0.0.0/" to "http://255.255.255.255/" into your browser. Bonus points if you portscan each on telnet.
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Try these:
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RANGE 62
62.0.0.1 - 62.30.255.255

RANGE 64
64.70.*.*
64.224.*
64.225.*
64.226.*
Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/fo...showtopic=5818
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Try these:

Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/fo...showtopic=5818
http://64.70.152.34/
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Try these:

Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/fo...showtopic=5818
Scanning rang 62...


OH WOW! Thats fucking AWESOME
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lol, Looks like DoD finally found out how to set a 404 page..
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Default Re: what's this invisible internet?

A friend showed me something that I guess could be considered in this thread.

He went to some search website where you entered somebody's name and birthday or some shit.

He entered Zeus as the name, forgot the other details. But from whatever he typed in, instead of searching like the website would normally do, it went to some other, very strange website with....interesting information on it.

I should ask him about that again...

EDIT: Also, if you have fast internet, get Tor running. There are some websites that can only be accessed with it (Though, from what I understand, a good amount of it is CP. Apparently there's a website on there called TorPedo).

I wish I had faster internet....services like Tor don't work with dialup.
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Fucking good days man.

I remember I was searching around hacking sites and came on a website and there was an image of a cop car with flashing sirens and the message 'your IP has been logged: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'. I shit myself and yanked the plug out of my computer.

Then there's SubSeven....
I remember a couple sites like that. Yeah I shat bricks.

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Deep web is just servers without domains and/or not on search engines.

Real cool stuff would be a VPN darknet. Which is just a private VPN with full encryption and acces controll where you make the rules...
Yeah, seems a lot of people are confusing deep web/net with dark web/net. You can search the deep web/net somewhat by searching databases whose content is not indexed by search engines... and again, the unlisted/indexed directories and files around could be considered deep web/net. Dark web/net is more like if you computer is not specifically trusted you wont be able to access it... like secure FTP servers and such where only a hand full of people have access... as I understand it.

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As I understand from the wiki, the "deep web" is just dynamically generated web content along with other web content inaccessible by search engines. Nothing /dark/ about it.

On a somewhat related note - The concept of freenet is pretty cool. http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html
Yup a lot of the deep web/net is just dynamically generated stuff or stuff that search engines don't index. EX. Facebook gives users the option to let search engines index users profiles... so doing a facebook search returns all users where as a google search only returns indexed users. So the un-indexed users info could be considered deep web/net.

Freenet is a cool concept, I have not messed around with it yet though.

Tor hidden services are interesting too.
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So say I started scanning some of those do not scan ip ranges...

And say I went through and pinged at random...


This is completely hypothetical and all...


Will the fbi bust in my door?
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Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!
happened to me, I was on my grandfathers computer looking up kiddie hacks and porn and boom, internet disconnects!

I get back on, and everything seems fine, but little did I know the dark side of things..

next thing you know he has a bill for a couple thousand dollars for connecting to some dial-in porn site! this back in 2002 or so
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happened to me, I was on my grandfathers computer looking up kiddie hacks and porn and boom, internet disconnects!

I get back on, and everything seems fine, but little did I know the dark side of things..

next thing you know he has a bill for a couple thousand dollars for connecting to some dial-in porn site! this back in 2002 or so
You serious?

I remember, I used to be really paranoid about this happening. Especially if the computer was left on, I was out of the house, and it started dialling it on its own (which could easily happen).
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I have scanned 23% 64.70.***.*** range, a rand specified DO NOT SCAN and I aint got shit
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This thread reminds me of this one story from 2600 from back in the day that I always loved:

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Recently, a telephone fanatic in the northwest made an interesting discovery. He was exploring the 804 area code (Virginia) and found out that the 840 exchange did something strange. In the vast majority of cases, in fact in all of the cases except one, he would get a recording as if the exchange didn’t exist. However, if he dialed 804-840 and four rather predictable numbers, he got a ring!
After one or two rings, somebody picked up. Being experienced at this kind of thing, he could tell that the call didn’t “supervise,” that is, no charges were being incurred for calling this number. (Calls that get you to an error message, or a special operator, generally don’t supe.) A female voice, with a hint of a southern accent said, “Operator, can I help you?”
“Yes,” he said. “What number have I reached?”
“What number did you dial, sir?”
He made up a number that was similar.
“I’m sorry, that’s not the number you reached.” Click.
He was fascinated. What in the world was this? He knew he was going to call back, but before he did, he tried some more experiments. He tried the 840 exchange in several other area codes. In some, it came up as a valid exchange. In others, exactly the same thing happened—the same last four digits, the same southern belle. Oddly enough, he later noticed, the areas it worked in seemed to travel in a beeline from Washington D.C. to Pittsburgh, PA. He called back from a pay phone.
“Operator, can I help you?”
“Yes, this is the phone company. I’m testing this line and we don’t seem to have an identification on your circuit. What office is this, please?”
“What number are you trying to reach?”
“I’m not trying to reach any number. I’m trying to identify this circuit.”
“I’m sorry, I can’t help you.”
“Ma’am, if I don’t get an ID on this line, I’ll have to disconnect it. We show no record of it here.”
“Hold on a moment, sir.”
After about a minute, she came back. “Sir, I can have someone speak to you. Would you give me your number, please?”
He had anticipated this and he had the pay phone number ready. After he gave it, she said, “Mr. XXX will get right back to you.”
“Thanks.” He hung up the phone. It rang. Instantly! “Oh my God,” he thought, “They weren’t asking for my number; they were confirming it!”
“Hello,” he said, trying to sound authoritative.
“This is Mr. XXX. Did you just make an inquiry to my office concerning a phone number?”
“Yes. I need an identi—”
“What you need is advice. Don’t ever call that number again. Don’t even think about calling that number again. Forget you ever knew it.”
At this point our friend got so nervous he just hung up. He expected to hear the phone ring again but it didn’t.
Over the next few days he racked his brains trying to figure out what the number was. He knew it was something big—that was pretty certain at this point. It was so big that the number was programmed into every central office in the country. He knew this because if he tried to dial any other number in that exchange, he’d get a local error message from his CO, as if the exchange didn’t exist.
It finally came to him. He had an uncle who worked in a federal agency. He had a feeling that this was government related and if it was, his uncle could probably find out what it was. He asked the next day and his uncle promised to look into the matter.
The next time he saw his uncle, he noticed a big change in his manner. He was trembling.
“Where did you get that number?” he shouted. “Do you know I almost got fired for asking about it?! They kept wanting to know where I got it!”
Our friend couldn’t contain his excitement. “What is it?” he pleaded. “What’s the number?!”
“It’s the President’s bomb shelter!”
He never called the number after that. He knew that he could probably cause quite a bit of excitement by calling the number and saying something like, “The weather’s not good in Washington. We’re coming over for a visit.” But our friend was smart. He knew that there were some things that were better off unsaid and undone.
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I have scanned 23% 64.70.***.*** range, a rand specified DO NOT SCAN and I aint got shit
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I just pinged a random IP, 64.70.152.34, and I got this: http://64.70.152.34/
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You serious?

I just pinged a random IP, 64.70.152.34, and I got this: http://64.70.152.34/
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Awful lot of thanks going on in these parts....
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This is the happiest thread I've been in in quite some time.
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