The official gang thread

[Joe Camel]

I do not condone any sort of gang representation, I am merely making this thread because gangs interest me. ITT we will discuss the differences in our local gangs. Around NC, there are about 2 major gangs I want to talk about, but the main things they have in common are they start their own individual gangs they call "sets." Sets are started by an original gangsta, or OG. When the OG dies, so does the set until someone starts a new set. If one set causes embarrassment to the gang as a whole, such as crips losing in a fight to the bloods, they will be punished by other crips. If the OG is killed, then the members of the set will get revenge on whoever killed him.


To get into a "set," you must be beat in. What the crips do in North Carolina is put 11 pennies around you in a circle. They beat the hell out of you until you get all the pennies. Then, to achieve a higher rank, you must do things like sleep with someone who has aids, or drive down the road at night with no headlights, and the first car to flash their headlights is chased down and you kill everyone in the car.



Crips

The Crips around here wear blue bandannas in the back left pocket, say things like C's up B's down, and Cllllat, while rolling there tounge on the l's. Their sign is the 6 point star. They do things like the "C-walk," or crip walk. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x5Z80jtOE
At around 1:00, see how he is spelling crip with his feet?


History

In 1969, a Los Angeles youth named Raymond Washington, 15, organized a group of other neighborhood youths and started a gang called the Baby Avenues. The Baby Avenues wanted to emulate a gang of older youths who had been involved in gang activity since 1964 and provided minor crimes for the Black Panthers of Los Angeles. This gang was called the Avenue Boys since they claimed their turf on Central Avenue in East Los Angeles. Raymond Washington, along with Stanley "Tookie" Williams and several other gang members from the Baby Avenues Gang were fascinated with the hype of the Black Panthers and they wanted to develop the Baby Avenues gang into a larger force. The Baby Avenues Gang began using the name Avenues Cribs since members lived on the avenue (Central Avenue). Crib members would wear blue scarves (now called bandannas) around their necks or heads. The color blue became their representative color. In 1971, the use of the word 'Crip' had become so common among the Avenues Cribs that it became an acceptable name for the gang. Meanwhile, Raymond Washington and his collection of young gang members influenced other area youth gangs resulting in the formation of many Crip sets. Some of these sets included Avalon Garden Crips, Eastside Crips, Inglewood Crips and Westside Crips. Crips gangs were violent and constantly expanded their turf.

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

That snippet OP posted is incorrect. The Crips had nothing to do with black panthers it was just something that a few kids from the boys homes in California started, they based it off of other gangs from the 50s and 60s in California who went around with canes beating people up. The Crip name came from the fact that they would walk around with canes and fight eachother. Another fallacy is that Stanley Williams had anything to do with the formation of the Crips, the Crips were founded by Raymond Washington and Munkeyman (no shit) back in the mid 60s, Tookie didn't come along until 68-1970. Also Tookie only found out about Crips after he moved to California from New Orleans because he went to a boys home for trying to rape his sister. He had nothing to do with starting the crips and he just hung around them and started a little sub-set on the Westside, he also started the Eight-Trey Gangsta Crips set. People used to look up to him because he was really buff (he used to rob pharmacies and shit and was taking +100mg dianabol daily when he was a kid) but he was actually nothing more than a drug addict. He used to run around the steets naked on PCP and would beat down people for nothing. Also that Eight-Trey set I was talking about, Tookie raped a lot of kids from that neighborhood (83rd street). He would chase them around and fuck them with beer bottles and his dick. He also had sex with his pit bulls. The guy was a real fuckup. I met the DA and the guy that prosecuted him when he went to jail for killing one white guy and an entire Asian family and a lot of Crips from Los Angeles, and most of those crips hated his ass. You should read his memoir (steal it don't buy it) it's funny how he mentions all of this with great subtlety. He was a gay ass faggot. Barbara Becnel (the bitch who wrote those children's books for him, the one's that sold about 200 copies each) tried to get him off of the hook because she's a black-power supremacist. In court he even admitted that he didn't write the books, because he was (back in the early 80s) trying to make the case that he had brain damage and thus couldn't have remembered if he did the crimes or not. He later gave up on that and just tried to say he was innocent. He only stopped gangbanging in the early 90s when he eventually got raped in the showers and that one retard Tiequon Cox stabbed him. That's when he realized he needed to stop worrying about blue rags and tricking gullible white people in to thinking he was innocent. Anyway I know a lot about that guy and LA gangs and let me say there's nothing interesting about them.

One major thing is that every crip has to know what each point on the 6 point star means. According to yahoo! answers, every point means life, loyalty, understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and love.

Crip Signs:


The "C"


Self explanatory.


6-Point Star(stolen from Zay's avatar)

Bloods



Bloods wear red bandannas in the back right pocket, say things like B's up C's down, bllllllllat, soowoop, ect. They also have the "Blood Walk."

Blood walk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0IKmqNIaw

History

Crips gangs were violent and constantly expanded their turf. Because of their aggression, several rival gangs joined forces as a gang collective called the Bloods. They adopted the color Red as their representative color. A fierce rivalry between these two gangs existed throughout the 1970's and 80's. By the early 1980's, Crips gangs were heavily involved in the drug trade that they commenced an expansion throughout the United States to sell a new drug product called "Crack". Throughout the 1980's and 1990's the Crips developed intricate networks and a respected reputation with other gangs across America and neighboring countries. By late 1971 the Avalon Garden Crips and the Inglewood Crips joined forces with the other crip sets. The Crips began to expand to non-Crip gang territories. The L.A. Brims which began in 1969 on the Westside were a powerful street gang, but they were not Crips, and the Blood alliance had not been established. Several gangs which eventually became part of the Blood family had already existed though.
There were also the Piru Street Boys in Compton, the Bishops, Athens Park Boys and the Denver Lanes. The Pirus, which are Bloods now, actually hung out with the Crips prior to 1972. For a short time they were known as the Piru Street Crips, and they also wore the traditional blue rags (bandana) as part of their attire. How to combat Crip intimidation was discussed along with the creation of a new alliance to counter the Crips. At that time the color of bandannas was not important, but since the Crips were known to wear blue bandanas, the Pirus and the other groups decided to discontinue the wearing of blue bandannas. They decided to take on the wearing of an opposite color, red, and created a united organization which later became known as the Bloods. The Pirus, Brims, Athens Park Boys, and Pueblos decided to unite with the Bloods, and soon after, other groups who had been threatened or attacked by Crips joined the Bloods.

Blood signs:



Spells "BLOOD"



B for Blood.

5-Point Star:




Folk

History

Folk Nation originated in the Chicago area, it has sub-gangs with their own alliances. Blacks, Whites and Latinos are part of this gang, their color is black or blue, and sometimes purple around here. Within the Folk Nation alliance there are many gangs which all have their own unique colors, hand signs and organization. (Folk are in alliance with the crips, meaning bloods are rivals as well as people nation). Their symbol is 6-point star, and the pitchfork. After a prosperous beginning in the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s, the alliance started to break apart in the early 1990s due to wars over money and drugs between fellow Folks gangs. After the split each leader was considered a king in his own right. Each king having loyalty to the national rules, but following only their set rules.


Pitchfork (Turned down, showing disrespect.)


Folk graffiti, 6-point star and pitchfork

Nazi Low Riders (NLR)

History

The gang originated in the mid to late 1970s as middlemen and muscle for the Aryan Brotherhood. As opposed to other white criminal gangs in California prisons, the NLR gained a reputation for being very violently pro-active instead of reactionary. They are labeled as very disruptive and offensive by the California Department of Corrections. They are strong in numbers in such California communities as Oildale, Bakersfield, Inland Empire, and Orange County. The Nazi part of their name is more a sign of a racist belief in white supremacy than anti-Semitism, while Lowriders is a play on the term used for Hispanic gangs.
The gang eventually progressed from being muscle for the Brotherhood to a fast-growing gang in their own right. Unlike other white supremacist gangs, they appear to be well organized and have developed links with other white gangs throughout the West Coast including the Ku Klux Klan. Paroled gang members have been known to move east to further spread the organization's reach.
On January 28, 1999, California prison officials recognised the Lowriders as a "disruptive" gang, and inmates known to be members could now be subject to be removed from general population and other restrictive treatment in an attempt to disrupt the gang's criminal activities. The Lowriders responded by striking an alliance with Public Enemy No.1, another white prison gang, which has since taken over the reins on California's white mainline prison population. Where Aryan Brotherhood and NLR have left off, PENI or Public Enemy No.1 (Pronounced 'PEE NYE') plan to continue the 'key holding'. In prison the Nazi Lowriders have a three-tier hierarchy system consisting of senior members, junior members and kids. For senior status, gang members must have been active for at least five years and been elected by at least three other senior members. Below them are juniors, who cannot themselves induct new members but can attempt to recruit potentials. Kids usually come from smaller gangs like Public Enemy No.1, and the senior member who inducts them becomes their mentor. On the streets the organization structure is not so clear and appears to be more loosely connected. The organization is involved in criminal activity both in and out of prison, notably in the production and distribution of methamphetamine and has become a major distributor of the drug in Southern California. They are also believed to work with biker gangs in the drug trade.


NLR tatto design

Various gang clothing and the meaning: http://www.gangwatchers.org/gang-dress.html

Thoughts? Info on gangs in your area? Opinions?

[Joe Camel]

Will post info on Folk nation later.

[Zay]

I'm interested in the psychology gangs. They're tribes, and fundamentally the same as governments: acquiring assets through the coercive use of force. They claim territory, have their tax system("protection" money and tax for selling drugs on their territory) , recruit people for defense purposes, come up with their own laws, etc. The way people are jumped in(we hereby take control of your body and life by beating the crap out of you, then granting you concessions). They seem to fill a void that all humans seem to want: a place to fit in, something to live for, something to be "patriotic" about protection, opportunity for advancements(let's see I can keep doing the mcdonalds thing for 3 more months to get another raise, or I can kill the rival, build my street resumé, and take over his drug turf)

You grow up in a poor area with one or two shitty parents, and it's an instant shortcut to getting girls, reputation, camaraderie, and money.

[slm33d]

Are you going to do anything on the black panthers , arayan brotherhood , NLR or just black gangs.

[Staples_AOK]

rambo nation wazaa

[Meguiar]

In America which is the biggest Biker gang? The Outlaws?

[Azure]

My title is much better.

[Lord hang man]

ITT: federal agent attempts to gather information regarding public knowledge of gang activity in their region.
Also, TL;DR past

Around NC, there are about 2 major gangs I want to talk about, but the main things they have in common are they start their own individual gangs they call "sets." Sets are started by an original gangsta

[Bakayar]

Peronaly i think gangs are started for two reasons: the feeling of acomplishment that everyone in the gang feels when they do something, even if only one person did said thing they all get the feelin of acomplishmemt, like supporters of a sports team. this is probably brought on by decadence. and the second being the rewards it brings, mainly money. people see gangs and see what how well off they are and then join, hence the reason gangsterisim is rife in poor areas.
and i think that the main reason for joining an already established one is the money, any gratification from association is hardly considerd.

the local gangs here are odd. one is a satanic group that sell drugs and kill chickens. one is in the highschool, called the outlaws, all they do is watch each others backs when smoking on school grounds and grafiti the toilets. and then the outlaws rivals, the inlaws... they dont do much.

[bornkiller]

Originally Posted by slm33d

Are you going to do anything on the black panthers , arayan brotherhood , NLR or just black gangs.

This ^
Maybe include gang culture from different parts of the world, yah?
Considering the main gangs here use these boy bands like the Cs/Bs as punching bags.

[Joe Camel]

Originally Posted by slm33d

Are you going to do anything on the black panthers , arayan brotherhood , NLR or just black gangs.

I just did information on those two because they're the two I know the most about. Maybe I will do some research on it and post what I find here. Later though, I have to go to class now.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by bornkiller

This ^
Maybe include gang culture from different parts of the world, yah?
Considering the main gangs here use these boy bands like the Cs/Bs as punching bags.

New Zealand doesn't have any gangs you fucking faggots.

[slm33d]

Haha dude you don't know much then . Mongrel mobs all I know and they shit over c's/b's.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by slm33d

Haha dude you don't know much then . Mongrel mobs all I know and they shit over c's/b's.

That sounds so fucking gay, it's unreal. Mongrel Mob?

Leave it to the Aussies to turn everything gay.

[Lurker_Man]

The deadhand gang is better than anyother gang mentioned alreaddy.

[slm33d]

Their not aussie dude lol. Their new zealand maori gang and they are a lot worse then most bikers. Aussie has a fair few bikers like - hells angels , gladiators , comancheros , life & death 1%ers , there is a new one i forgot aswell.

There a few like wog type gangs but we hav more drug related gangs rather then malorly violent gangs if you get what I mean. I have family in a couple of different bikie groups that im not at liberty to mention.

[KevinLoveIsMyHero]

^^ whoa your family's hard dude you aren't at liberty to mention them

[slm33d]

You really like stalking me don't you you silly boy. If you knew what was happening in aus about the gangs you wouldn't even open your mouth to anyone.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by slm33d

You really like stalking me don't you you silly boy. If you knew what was happening in aus about the gangs you wouldn't even open your mouth to anyone.

There's not much going in Australia at all with your less than 1.0% murder rate per 100,000 people.

Stop trying to act like you're not complete faggots.

[The General]

I think it would be awsome to see a gang fight between some nazi skinheads and some bloods or crips. It would be badass.

[justanotherweirdo]

gangs are just the savage ghetto version of what all human beings are part of, a career, a family, a society, a nation, etc. People who grow up in marginalised and disenfranchised groups feel like they're outcasts of regular society by default so they join a society with more relevance to their lives. Gangs are the oldest human institution, tribes in ancient and prehistoric times were basically gangs fighting over turf and using war and violence to gain power and influence.

Read the book Gangs of New York, during the 1800's in NYC even poor people from anglo-saxon backgrounds were in gangs, there were no hispanics and I don't think there were any black gangs (could be wrong about that), probably because all the white gangs would have ganged up on them. Then things improved for most whites in america but black people stayed poor because of racial discrimination. But there were still white street gangs in america up until the 60's or 70's, especially in NYC. Now the only white gangs are neo-nazis or wanna-bes.

[slm33d]

Originally Posted by Azure

There's not much going in Australia at all with your less than 1.0% murder rate per 100,000 people.

Stop trying to act like you're not complete faggots.

This makes no sense. So uh let me take a stab at what your saying. So because we have a low murder rate your saying talking shit on different bikie groups would be accepted. Just because some murders aren't reported doesn't mean they don't happen.

At the moment the bikies are in a bad situation with cops placing pressure on them and new laws being passed. I belaive they can't even allow new members to join.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by slm33d

This makes no sense. So uh let me take a stab at what your saying. So because we have a low murder rate your saying talking shit on different bikie groups would be accepted. Just because some murders aren't reported doesn't mean they don't happen.

At the moment the bikies are in a bad situation with cops placing pressure on them and new laws being passed. I belaive they can't even allow new members to join.

There's very little crime in Australia...you're one of the safest nations in the developed world. No one has a reason to be "gangbanging" in jolly old Australia...or New Zealand. Stop trying to hype up 15 year old retards and minorities who carry around knives(guns are too hardcore for pussy Aussies), into something big and bad...they aren't.

Faggot.

[justanotherweirdo]

Originally Posted by Azure

There's very little crime in Australia...you're one of the safest nations in the developed world. No one has a reason to be "gangbanging" in jolly old Australia...or New Zealand. Stop trying to hype up 15 year old retards and minorities who carry around knives(guns are too hardcore for pussy Aussies), into something big and bad...they aren't.

Faggot.

there are still marginalised ethnic groups and poor neighbourhoods in australia. Street gangs in australia are mostly small underground groups that aren't very visible, obviously they don't get international media attention like american street gangs.
Before the 80's when the explosion of the gang drug trade happened in south central LA and modern 'gangsta' culture was born, american gangs weren't massive groups that influenced popular culture and mainstream media either.
Australia does have a really low crime rate, but gangsters still carry guns.
And bikie gangs in australia aren't '15 year old retards', they're grown men who control the amphetamines trade and kill each other.

Also, New Zealand is a crime ridden shithole, plenty of gangs there. Although I heard that cops in NZ recently killed somebody for the first time ever, lol.

[Joe Camel]

Originally Posted by slm33d

Haha dude you don't know much then . Mongrel mobs all I know and they shit over c's/b's.

You can contribute as well, you know.

[Struwwelpeter]

That snippet OP posted is incorrect. The Crips had nothing to do with black panthers it was just something that a few kids from the boys homes in California started, they based it off of other gangs from the 50s and 60s in California who went around with canes beating people up. The Crip name came from the fact that they would walk around with canes and fight eachother. Another fallacy is that Stanley Williams had anything to do with the formation of the Crips, the Crips were founded by Raymond Washington and Munkeyman (no shit) back in the mid 60s, Tookie didn't come along until 68-1970. Also Tookie only found out about Crips after he moved to California from New Orleans because he went to a boys home for trying to rape his sister. He had nothing to do with starting the crips and he just hung around them and started a little sub-set on the Westside, he also started the Eight-Trey Gangsta Crips set. People used to look up to him because he was really buff (he used to rob pharmacies and shit and was taking +100mg dianabol daily when he was a kid) but he was actually nothing more than a drug addict. He used to run around the steets naked on PCP and would beat down people for nothing. Also that Eight-Trey set I was talking about, Tookie raped a lot of kids from that neighborhood (83rd street). He would chase them around and fuck them with beer bottles and his dick. He also had sex with his pit bulls. The guy was a real fuckup. I met the DA and the guy that prosecuted him when he went to jail for killing one white guy and an entire Asian family and a lot of Crips from Los Angeles, and most of those crips hated his ass. You should read his memoir (steal it don't buy it) it's funny how he mentions all of this with great subtlety. He was a gay ass faggot. Barbara Becnel (the bitch who wrote those children's books for him, the one's that sold about 200 copies each) tried to get him off of the hook because she's a black-power supremacist. In court he even admitted that he didn't write the books, because he was (back in the early 80s) trying to make the case that he had brain damage and thus couldn't have remembered if he did the crimes or not. He later gave up on that and just tried to say he was innocent. He only stopped gangbanging in the early 90s when he eventually got raped in the showers and that one retard Tiequon Cox stabbed him. That's when he realized he needed to stop worrying about blue rags and tricking gullible white people in to thinking he was innocent. Anyway I know a lot about that guy and LA gangs and let me say there's nothing interesting about them.

[Joe Camel]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

That snippet OP posted is incorrect...

Will edit this into my OP.

[Azure]

Once again I find myself impressed with JLFC's knowledge of negro activities.

[Struwwelpeter]

The myth that the crips had anything to do with black panthers is some bullshit pandered by black revisionists and ex-crips that don't want to bear responsiblity for the fact that the crips were nothing more than a bunch of fedora-hat wearing, cane carrying, left ear pierced glue huffers running around LA performing typical negro behavior. I've seen a similar lie constructed by ex-crips, particularly that Tookie fag, that they created the Crips to "root out" other gangs that were "destroying their neighborhood". The fact is it was just a bunch of kids from the boys home doing what they were genetically predisposed to do, run around in packs and gamble, fight, kill, rape and even incite riots in the greater LA area.

[Struwwelpeter]

Wow, thanks guys.

[Daily]

MS-13.

[JoePedo]

Originally Posted by bornkiller

Considering the main gangs here use these boy bands like the Cs/Bs as punching bags.

Pro Tip : New Zealand is not a district of Los Angeles, dude.

Speaking of "not from LA..."

Originally Posted by Stendhal Syndrome

One major thing is that every crip has to know what each point on the 6 point star means.

The eight ball is cracked, and never meant a merger in the first place.

Admittedly, unless you have duties in defending the franchise, it may not be very useful to tell them this, but... you got fake crips. You won't see that shit in Los Angeles.

Similarly...

Originally Posted by Stendhal Syndrome

5-Point Star

East coast only.

If memory serves, it has something or other to do with NY's 5 boroughs. Funny story; UBN is basically some fake-down bitch shit by some little fag who couldn't get in anyone else's gang, and may have eventually gone into PC as a snitch. Later, its members made it legitimate - and, most importantly - met with the west coast.

It had nothing at all to do with the bloods before that. Now... they're legitimate, even if they're trippin' on their own thing. With the work of its members and the approval of the west coast, it's all cool.

...but don't expect the west coast to give a shit about sixes and fives, in any way or sense.

Originally Posted by Zay

I'm interested in the psychology {of} gangs.

...at what point?

From what I've seen, the life cycle - with a few exceptions - usually goes through necessity/corruption/revival cycle... adressing security or political needs not provided by official institutions, getting rich quick through the drug market, and then going back to its role as a political action movement.

There's a few exceptions; la Eme itself went more a long the lines of "got in one little fight and these bitch kids got scared, so they tricked someone bigger and dumber into doing their dirty work," followed by politics, followed by their main reformer being tossed off a balcony right when it appeared la eme was going to end up another righteous left-wing insurrectionary movement like the rest of us out here... but for the most part, history suggests a pretty predictable life cycle and highly different psychology depending on whether the gang is using its members for the advancement of its goals or community or whether its members are using the gang for their own petty power and money issues.

Incidentally, the 'myth' that the Crips and Bloods rose out of the corpse of the Black Panthers was started by... Eldridge Cleaver, Black Panther and party head of the movement to free Huey Newton in 1967.

"And I regret the way that the Party was repressed because it left a lot of unfinished business because we had planned to make a transition to the political arena and we would have been able to transmute that violence and that legacy into legitimate and peaceful channels.

As it was they chopped off the head and left the body there armed. That's why all these young bloods out there now, they've got the rhetoric but without the political direction and they've got the guns."

- Eldridge Cleaver, Black Panther Party, Frontline interview.

[Broke]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

The myth that the crips had anything to do with black panthers is some bullshit pandered by black revisionists and ex-crips that don't want to bear responsiblity for the fact that the crips were nothing more than a bunch of fedora-hat wearing, cane carrying, left ear pierced glue huffers running around LA performing typical negro behavior. I've seen a similar lie constructed by ex-crips, particularly that Tookie fag, that they created the Crips to "root out" other gangs that were "destroying their neighborhood". The fact is it was just a bunch of kids from the boys home doing what they were genetically predisposed to do, run around in packs and gamble, fight, kill, rape and even incite riots in the greater LA area.

I watched "Crips and Bloods: made in america" and it talked about that very thing that crips came from black panthers. but your post was very interesting and i think you're more right because according to the movie the crips came from black panthers and bloods came from a bunch of gangs forming together and it never really explained why they started fighting each other. However i think i'll side with you that those gangs were

"... just a bunch of kids from the boys home doing what they were genetically predisposed to do, run around in packs and gamble, fight, kill, rape and even incite riots in the greater LA area."

good contribution

[bornkiller]

Originally Posted by ImJoeThePedo

Pro Tip : New Zealand is not a district of Los Angeles, dude.

Heh!
Another pro tip joe
Children shouldn't play with firearms take the guns away and they revert back to children.

[Joe Camel]

I need to fix my facts in my op. Once again, I have class, so it will have to wait.

[bornkiller]

Originally Posted by Stendhal Syndrome

I need to fix my facts in my op. Once again, I have class, so it will have to wait.

All good! so far its been quite an interesting read

[justanotherweirdo]

Originally Posted by ImJoeThePedo

Pro Tip : New Zealand is not a district of Los Angeles, dude.

there are actually crips and bloods in New Zealand, not sure if they're affiliated with the american chapters though.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by bornkiller

ONOEZ (ing bricks) its the interwebz tough guy.
So you don't classify The Hells Angels, Outlaws, Highway61, Highway45, as gang members?....Your an idiot they're here and united affiliates with the rest of the world chapters.
And as for the Mongrel Mob? Ross Kent thought they were worthy enough to make his show unlike your "I love starwars luke fan club groupies"
Get your facts right biznitch.

Ross Kemp is a sissy little British faggot...why are you bragging about publicity from that tool?

[nutsack]

Originally Posted by justanotherweirdo

there are actually crips and bloods in New Zealand, not sure if they're affiliated with the american chapters though.

They are mostly just youth gangs in NZ. Bunch of try hards who get owned by the real gangs here, whole bunch of bike gangs, black power and mongrel mob.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by bornkiller

"You feel the need to have a more dominant alpha male respond in an aggressive manner towards you.
This is bought on by the way your father ass raped you from the early stages of your childhood
The reason you act in such a negative manner in these forums is because your trying to duplicate the aggressive response from other members using them as substitutes for your fathers sexual perversions performed on your ass.
Which is why you are reading this while stroking your cock"
"You are a mediocre Troll"

Speaking of faggots, why is your post riddled with cock and gay rape?

You're fucked in the head, honestly...people like you should be shot.