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So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
...Well, why not? JP keeps ranting and raving about it that the idea of dosing up on nutmeg and kicking back for the rest of the day, smoking bowls of cali dank and drinking coffee is very appealing to me. Lately I've been getting used to the taste of it by putting more and more of it into my coffee, and today I put quite a bit in my morning cup - not enough to dose up on, I don't think, but definitely more than you'd ever want as a seasoning. Didn't bother me at all...
So, just a few questions. I'll be looking them up myself as I don't want to set a bad example for all the lazy noobs who fail at google, but I don't see why I shouldn't make a thread as well...
Is any mixture of alkaloids in my coffee going to prove semi-dangerous with a psychoactive dose of nutmeg? I put honey, cream, organic chocolate, and cinnamon in it, along with the nutmeg...I can hardly think of any contraindications, but who knows? Maybe there's some obscure Ayurvedic text warning against it, or something...
I can hardly see myself reacting in any particularly bad fashion to a large dose of nutmeg, so I'm just going to grind up a bunch in my next two or three cups and see where that gets me. If I'm not tripping balls in a few hours, well...I'll have to see where I went wrong.
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Bah. That scares me about as much as the threat of communism.
Also, JP, recommend any particular music for a nutmeg trip?
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
How many grams of fresh nutmeg are you planning on ingesting?
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How many grams of fresh nutmeg are you planning on ingesting?
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Probably the dose right before overdose.
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I don't know, I'm just grinding it right into my coffee. I doubt I'm ingesting as much as some people take but then again I'm very sensitive to drugs, all across the board. I'll just keep taking more until I get to where I want to be.
Generally a safe/smart way to go when you have a good supply of the drug yr using, and nutmeg is well, very readily available...
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Fair enough, but it also takes a fair while to fully kick in from what I've read.
The trip reports I've read usually start out with a dose of approx. 20g. As you can understand, I was a bit curious to see if you were actually going to put that much into your coffee and manage to drink it.
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06-15-2009, 09:29 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
ingest about 3 whole nutmegs, expect 4-5 hours to pass before you notice any effect.
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06-15-2009, 09:30 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
I think the most sensitive people start to feel a little bit high at about 6g of straight nutmeg, I believe an overdose can start around 40-50g. Also don't forget you don't get completely back to normal for 2 to 3 days later.
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06-15-2009, 09:33 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Why the fuck would a poster as good as Rizzo decide to regress to 14 years old chompin nutmeg??
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Why the fuck would a poster as good as Rizzo decide to regress to 14 years old chompin nutmeg?? 
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I think the most sensitive people start to feel a little bit high at about 6g of straight nutmeg, I believe an overdose can start around 40-50g. Also don't forget you don't get completely back to normal for 2 to 3 days later.
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"Normal" for me is a mixture of a low dose acid trip, a heavy marijuana high, mixed in with the utter Weird disassociation of salvia. That is my daily state. When I wake up, I am what most people would call, "pretty fucking high." But since I'm used to it, it's not something that bugs me, or makes me act psychotic, or impairs me. I see reality as elastic and fluid, and daily I climb the Tree of Life (or sink into the Qlippothic depths...).
So what I'm saying is that if nutmeg has any long-term consciousness altering effects, I will gladly take them. My goal is for my baseline to be what I used to consider a peak, and my peak to be even, well, peakier.
Starting to feel pretty weird now, I'd say I'm at about 3 grams of fresh and tasty nutmeg...
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06-15-2009, 10:01 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Nutmeg just made me feel awful for 3 straight days, and i fell asleep before i felt its effects.
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Incoherence, loss of coordination unless focused upon, minor psychedelia and merging with my environment out of no volition of my own...Taking more...Thinking very lucidly...Enjoying myself, no nausea, feeling very clean, healthy.
So far so good.
Oh man I can definitely taste it in this cup, but I used agave nectar instead of honey...Maybe that's just it. Next cup, I'll see.
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06-15-2009, 10:21 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
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...Well, why not? JP keeps ranting and raving about it that the idea of dosing up on nutmeg and kicking back for the rest of the day, smoking bowls of cali dank and drinking coffee is very appealing to me. Lately I've been getting used to the taste of it by putting more and more of it into my coffee, and today I put quite a bit in my morning cup - not enough to dose up on, I don't think, but definitely more than you'd ever want as a seasoning. Didn't bother me at all...
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If you can handle the taste/texture, go for it. If you're like most of us, rape a pack of gelcaps.
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Is any mixture of alkaloids in my coffee going to prove semi-dangerous with a psychoactive dose of nutmeg? I put honey, cream, organic chocolate, and cinnamon in it, along with the nutmeg...I can hardly think of any contraindications, but who knows? Maybe there's some obscure Ayurvedic text warning against it, or something...
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Not unless said alkaloids are MAOIs. Nutmeg, IIRC, is a slight MAOI itself, but watch out. So like, no tablespoons of pepper.
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I can hardly see myself reacting in any particularly bad fashion to a large dose of nutmeg, so I'm just going to grind up a bunch in my next two or three cups and see where that gets me. If I'm not tripping balls in a few hours, well...I'll have to see where I went wrong.
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When people have bad nutmeg trips, this is the reason 95% of the time. It takes at least 5 hours to kick in, perhaps 7, so do not dose again!
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06-15-2009, 10:28 PM
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When people have bad nutmeg trips, this is the reason 95% of the time. It takes at least 5 hours to kick in, perhaps 7, so do not dose again!
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Can you explain why? What mechanism of action would cause such a long come up? I mean, I know that's the general consensus but I've never much had the care to question the why's and wherefore's. Is it the MAOI part of it?
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06-15-2009, 10:44 PM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Alright Rizzo, you listen to me. I STILL come here every single day. It's not totse anymore. I quit drugs. I joined the army. But still I come here every single day with my fingers crossed PRAYING there will be something at least worth glancing at. I see all new names around here, but the same old talk every time. I'm always disappointed, but I suppose what can I really expect these days. But this is too far. Too much. Rizzo is making nutmeg threads now? Do you WANT me to kill myself man?
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Alright Rizzo, you listen to me. I STILL come here every single day. It's not totse anymore. I quit drugs. I joined the army. But still I come here every single day with my fingers crossed PRAYING there will be something at least worth glancing at. I see all new names around here, but the same old talk every time. I'm always disappointed, but I suppose what can I really expect these days. But this is too far. Too much. Rizzo is making nutmeg threads now? Do you WANT me to kill myself man?
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WHAT THE FUCK FINE ILL GO WORK ON MY FUCKING EZINE
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I really wish people would stop respecting me, it would just make things so much easier. that way, if I do by chance say anything remotely intelligent or helpful, it will be a pleasant surprise.
but uh, my head is hardcore swimming now...several large tokes of weed and uh...well, forget it..
but uh, yeah...idk...like I said before, I'll do anything/anywhere/anytime...whether it be dxm, nutmeg, acid, heroin, or IV meth...drugs om om nom nom.
also, nutmeg is a memory-enhancing nootropic. so, erm, bugger off, oldfags.
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Can you explain why? What mechanism of action would cause such a long come up? I mean, I know that's the general consensus but I've never much had the care to question the why's and wherefore's. Is it the MAOI part of it?
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Well speculatively, because the liver has to turn it into MMDA. This is 100% unverified, but it makes some sense. Myristicin and Safrole are not alkaloids, they are allylbenzenes.
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06-16-2009, 01:19 AM
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Oh Lord, how long?
Scov and I are getting retarded hippy in th3 #ch3mph0ria channel, all stond on nutmeg, and weed. I am definitely very far left of center.
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
Man, where the fuck is JP when you need him. lol, he probably OD'd on nutmeg. He's now somewhere in 5-dimensional-spacetime, and won't return for a few days. Anywho, most of the studies JP keeps pointing out are on the essential oils of nutmeg, and I don't believe they are administered orally. So, if you've got a steam distillation rig, it's time to lead it up. Or, make an alcohol (everclear if you can get it) solution and ingest that. Worse case, use 91% iso, let it dry, then eat that (iso isn't really toxic, it just inflames intestinal membranes if it's in high concentrations). AS for dosage, I haven't the faintest idea. Also, mechanism of action, same thing. Give JP a PM, these are good questions. Oh, and Rizzo, please to write up full reports on whatever you experience  .
EDIT: Also, have JP take a look at this: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke....pl?MYRISTICIN and this: http://books.google.com/books?id=5WY...xic+myristicin
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
I always thought it took a long time to have any effects?
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don't worry rizzo. i don't respekt u.
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
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The actual peak? Nah, it's more or less freeform. Pick anything you'd listen to while stoned or tripping, you're good...
...but the day after? Pshh... ever heard of xerxes? Load the fuck up on real chocolate, with baking cocoa, in a glass. Curl up in your softest quilted silk-velvet beanbag chair, and drink coffee. Your goal is to float orgasmically on the softest waves of ambient you can find.
4rlz. Words cannot describe this win.
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Man, where the fuck is JP when you need him. lol, he probably OD'd on nutmeg. He's now somewhere in 5-dimensional-spacetime, and won't return for a few days.
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Pretty close; by the timestamp, I was sleeping off the tail end of 6.50g of a new batch of heavenly blue seed. Pretty nice, and a side effect of the realization I had a while ago that society would be better if more people consumed large amounts of 4-substituted indoles on a more regular basis.
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Check the heading one up from your included search terms. It's cytotoxic to all cells, as are all essential oils (and several others). Worry about your stomach lining, not your brain.
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Re: So, I've got this nutmeg mill, right, and I've been thinkin'...
"It has been reported that the passage of [oil of nutmeg] through the liver of a rabbit will generate MMDA in that animal"
--Pihkal
Nutmeg is undoubtedly a prodrug, which is why it takes so long to come on.
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Oh man, this shit gets a big thumbs up from me.
I consumed roughly 5-8 grams of freshly ground nutmeg and man, I am definitely still feeling it. Later last night I started to trip really hard, it was very unique though. It had similarities to many other psychedelic type drugs and yet was definitely distinct from them all. It kicked in really hard while walking around, causing an interesting time dilation. That is, time would be either really fast and I'd be zoooming along or it would slow down as I would notice things.
The most interesting and singular effects, where however, I suspect outside of the realm of causality. That is to say, I can't really say that they happened for any overt reason that I can go back on in a chain of logic. You know, you drop acid, you see fractals, you think LSD = fractal divinity within. Or something.
But as I laid in bed I was getting ROCKED by intense waves of vibrations that was just, everything in existence. Thought just stopped, gave up, and asked for mummy. I felt thoroughly abandoned but in the end, I felt, good riddance. The only thing I can describe that part of the trip to is UG krishnamurti's "calamity" - it seemed to be the exact, or near to it, except at a much slower rate. Eventually fell asleep, had some nice although unconscious (that is, not lucid/astral projection) dreams, woke up well rested but incredibly STONED feeling. Like, "I could definitely lay here the rest of the day and not really care."
So all in all it gets my thumbs up and I'll be regularly consuming it, no doubt, if at the least for its memory enhancing effects. I can't wait to see if there's any synergistic effect with piracetam (+hydergeine), which should be getting here any day now...
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He's now somewhere in 5-dimensional-spacetime, and won't return for a few days. Anywho, most of the studies JP keeps pointing out are on the essential oils of nutmeg, and I don't believe they are administered orally. So, if you've got a steam distillation rig, it's time to lead it up. Or, make an alcohol (everclear if you can get it) solution and ingest that. Worse case, use 91% iso, let it dry, then eat that (iso isn't really toxic, it just inflames intestinal membranes if it's in high concentrations).
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Probably a good idea, but I don't think entirely necessary, so that's going to fall under the list of "things I'll do when I'm amped up and am bored off my tits."
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Well, yes and no. It took at least an hour and a half for me to feel any changes, and about 5 hours to really get into it. I'm very sensitive and always gauge "where I'm at", so to speak. So I tend to pick up on the effects of drugs and amplify them a little more than yr average drug user, but only as a matter of physiological (& probably psychological) make up and not some sort of spiritual superiority.
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don't worry rizzo. i don't respekt u.
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Thanks. I sleep better knowing this.
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The actual peak? Nah, it's more or less freeform. Pick anything you'd listen to while stoned or tripping, you're good...
...but the day after? Pshh... ever heard of xerxes? Load the fuck up on real chocolate, with baking cocoa, in a glass. Curl up in your softest quilted silk-velvet beanbag chair, and drink coffee. Your goal is to float orgasmically on the softest waves of ambient you can find.
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Yeah, that's the kind of cocoa I use.
I think I'm more addicted to that than anything else...
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Pretty nice, and a side effect of the realization I had a while ago that society would be better if more people consumed large amounts of 4-substituted indoles on a more regular basis.
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Agreed, but I would also include the addendum that people need to have some sort of working, free-form philosophy to address a shifting and fluid reality. We don't need a nation of acid casualties. Learn from the past, but don't repeat it...
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Indeed. Is it any wonder that most psychoactive drugs of a similar nature act as medicines as well?
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Nutmeg is undoubtedly a prodrug, which is why it takes so long to come on.
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I'm guessing it's part prodrug and part just active by itself. You know, like how hydrocodone metabolizes into hydromorphone, but is still psychoactive by itself. Right?
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I need to buy some more nutmegs, I'd really like to explore a bit higher doses.
I'd always take it, forget about it, then take a bong rip an hour or so later and spend the next six hours listening to music and thinking about the universe around me.
I've also combined it with mescaline with rather impressive results.
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Nice it worked out good for you. Not only have I read some really awful stories about the frequency of bad trips on nutmeg, but a friend of mine had one too. And believe me, he looked like a really dishappy motherfucker for a few days. Said he saw 'black shadowcreatures with red eyes, lurking from abyss, out to get him'. At least, that's what he kept repeating, almost like some evil mantra of some sort.
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Nice it worked out good for you. Not only have I read some really awful stories about the frequency of bad trips on nutmeg, but a friend of mine had one too. And believe me, he looked like a really dishappy motherfucker for a few days. Said he saw 'black shadowcreatures with red eyes, lurking from abyss, out to get him'. At least, that's what he kept repeating, almost like some evil mantra of some sort.
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Speaking of mantras, I started repeating my own mantra some part of the way through. I was trying to convey some sort of idea about the Kabbalah, kept rambling "kether is malkuth is kether is malkuth"...
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Pretty close; by the timestamp, I was sleeping off the tail end of 6.50g of a new batch of heavenly blue seed. Pretty nice,
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Heavenly blue? MG seeds? Out of curiosity, was is these? If someone could validate that seller was legit and the seeds were good for the purposes of extraction, that would be a great source of... well... MG seeds. That's by far the best deal on MG seeds I've ever seen.
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and a side effect of the realization I had a while ago that society would be better if more people consumed large amounts of 4-substituted indoles on a more regular basis.
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4-sub'd indoles are hard to work. They are all from either shrooms or MG seeds. Shrroms are difficult to acquire cheaply or cultivate. MG seeds have yet to be successfully extracted. Just N-sub'd tryptamines would accomplish much. Broaden your sights. My buddy is having some trouble decarboxylating some tryptophan. Helping him is the best place to start. There's a thread over in F&B.
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Agreed, but I would also include the addendum that people need to have some sort of working, free-form philosophy to address a shifting and fluid reality. We don't need a nation of acid casualties. Learn from the past, but don't repeat it...
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This is important to consider also, but JP, you should still do moar write-ups  .
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Well, My minds at ease.
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Oh man, this shit gets a big thumbs up from me.
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Tell me this, IYO, could nutmeg be used to increase coordination/focus if it was at lower doses? All the time dilation/contraction people report seems to coincide with the brains ability to focus and eliminate irrelevant stimuli. If nutmeg could be used to create a state of "superfocus," it could be very useful.
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Well, yes and no. It took at least an hour and a half for me to feel any changes, and about 5 hours to really get into it. I'm very sensitive and always gauge "where I'm at", so to speak. So I tend to pick up on the effects of drugs and amplify them a little more than yr average drug user, but only as a matter of physiological (& probably psychological) make up and not some sort of spiritual superiority.
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I wonder if a different ROA would make the difference? Probably not, but just a thought.
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Indeed. Is it any wonder that most psychoactive drugs of a similar nature act as medicines as well?
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There's an old phrase: "the only difference between medicine and poison is dosage." I like to think that psychoactive doses fall somewhere between medicine and poison.
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I'm guessing it's part prodrug and part just active by itself. You know, like how hydrocodone metabolizes into hydromorphone, but is still psychoactive by itself. Right?
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Psh, everyone knows if it doesn't have an amine group, it's not psychoactive, duh...
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"It has been reported that the passage of [oil of nutmeg] through the liver of a rabbit will generate MMDA in that animal"
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Nutmeg is undoubtedly a prodrug, which is why it takes so long to come on.
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I've heard this one disputed. In vivo amination is a stretch, I think, but I could be wrong. The main thing with nutmeg is that the [oil of nutmeg] thing you put there was originally "myristicin." Oil of nutmeg is only a small part myristicin. Which is why...
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Probably a good idea, but I don't think entirely necessary, so that's going to fall under the list of "things I'll do when I'm amped up and am bored off my tits."
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We need to do experiments! We need to figure out if myristicin is the primary fraction responsible for the effects of nutmeg. If so, parsnips would be a much better source of myristicin. I just think it would be good to know what exactly it is in nutmeg that generates the effects.
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I can confirm that nutmeg oil on an empty stomach works very well with the peak only being like 4-5 hours in and only an 'afterglow' present 20 hours later .. but felt very nicely stoned in the morning.
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I can confirm that nutmeg oil on an empty stomach works very well with the peak only being like 4-5 hours in and only an 'afterglow' present 20 hours later .. but felt very nicely stoned in the morning.
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What was the dosage? Would essential oil of nutmeg have any kind of gakk in it that would make one not want to consume it?
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What was the dosage? Would essential oil of nutmeg have any kind of gakk in it that would make one not want to consume it?
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I'd start with 3 00 caps full, see what happens and if it's not working up the dose ..
Btw it does clear out your digestive system quite nicely  .. not anything unpleasant though.. and gives burps, but they're not bad, taste like coke.
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I'd start with 3 00 caps full, see what happens and if it's not working up the dose ..
Btw it does clear out your digestive system quite nicely  .. not anything unpleasant though.. and gives burps, but they're not bad, taste like coke.
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3 00 caps... How many mL do you think you could fit in one cap? I have some "1" caps around, and I think they're about exactly half the size of 00's. Oh, just found this:
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In Canada, gelatin capsules are available in a range of sizes with designations 000, 00, 0E, 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. The respective volumetric capacities are 1.37ml, 950µl, 770µl, 680µl, 480µl, 360µl, 270µl, and 200µl
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So, yea, 3 00's is ~2.85mL of essential oil. Which means $30 on 3B4Y would buy 80 doses. Yo Rizzo, this might be your best option for future dosing. *cough* link*cough*
BTW, a semi-complete list of compounds in nutmeg and their quantities (I dunno bout the oil, though) is available here: ( link). If nutmeg oil provides the same buzz as nutmeg solid, then that brings us one step closer to uncovering nutmeg's active chemical(s).
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One thing though: don't store the capsules for any long length of time, the oil does leak out slowly over a few hours, but it's fine for just filling them up and swallowing, make sure you don't get any of the oil on the outside, if you do just wipe it well and drop it in the back of your mouth .. taste is very strong
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What the fuck are you on? Oh, right...
Oh, and what is Black Lodge?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lodge
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Twin peaks + psychedelics + a knowledge of kabbalah =
Needless to say, I ascribe to the idea that the Black Lodge and the White Lodge are two parts to the same thing, two sides of the same coin...The Black Lodge being Qlippoth.
Of course, there are some occultists who are of the mind that there are very real Black & White lodges of awakened individuals...But its far too easy for pseudo-mysticists to get caught up in that and miss true understanding.
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Twin peaks + psychedelics + a knowledge of kabbalah =
Needless to say, I ascribe to the idea that the Black Lodge and the White Lodge are two parts to the same thing, two sides of the same coin...The Black Lodge being Qlippoth.
Of course, there are some occultists who are of the mind that there are very real Black & White lodges of awakened individuals...But its far too easy for pseudo-mysticists to get caught up in that and miss true understanding.
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As much as I hate to express ignorance, I have no idea what you're talking about  . On a semi-related note, is Twin Peaks a worthwhile watch? I can probably find episodes online if it's worth it.
So, when you get some time/are soberish, get back to answerin' my queries!
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easiest way to do the nutmeg is to put it into capsules from a health food store ya know?
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One thing though: don't store the capsules for any long length of time, the oil does leak out slowly over a few hours...
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Lol...
Your oil's wet.
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woke up well rested but incredibly STONED feeling. Like, "I could definitely lay here the rest of the day and not really care."
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Yes, that's the stuff.
Now, pop on some trancendentally beautiful floating ambient. You'll start to care, mostly about how blissful it is to just float there.
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I've also combined it with mescaline with rather impressive results.
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 Fucking epic.
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Heavenly blue? MG seeds? Out of curiosity, was is {snip}?
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4-sub'd indoles are hard to work. They are all from either shrooms or MG seeds.
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Or cinnamon.
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MG seeds have yet to be successfully extracted.
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False.
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My buddy is having some trouble decarboxylating some tryptophan. Helping him is the best place to start.
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Is it 4-OH-tryptophan?
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If nutmeg oil provides the same buzz as nutmeg solid
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It does.
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then that brings us one step closer to uncovering nutmeg's active chemical(s).
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As would smoking cinnamon off tinfoil...
So, what's the safrole/TMAB content of parsnips?
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So, when you get some time/are soberish
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Could be a couple days.
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I'll probably take some with me going camping in a couple days, should be fun just to lay back in the hammock with the cover over for shade looking out across a forest on nutmeg with a little notebook
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I've heard this one disputed. In vivo amination is a stretch, I think, but I could be wrong. The main thing with nutmeg is that the [oil of nutmeg] thing you put there was originally "myristicin." Oil of nutmeg is only a small part myristicin.
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Come again?
It was originally oil of nutmeg; which has several other compounds that are necessary for psychoactivity--like safrole.
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