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Old 06-21-2009, 06:54 PM
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Default John Lennon.. a violent menace?

So anyways a few weeks ago I was reading the news and in it there was an article which basically stated Yoko admitting that John Lennon was violent towards her and other women. I then remembered a book I had in my attic. "The Lives of John Lennon".

This book is disturbing to say the least. Every night for that last couple days I have been delving into the life of this man and it is no wear close to the whole public image he exhibited. Cruel, sadistic, extremely violent, greedy, backstabbing,murderous, plaigerer.

There is an account in there of when the Beatles were playing in Germany's Red-Light district and John and Pete Best (drummer before Ringo) would find English sailors (they were working in a port city) and beat them then rob them in alleys. Apparently one time John got in such a fit of rage that he beat the guy so hard he was just lying on the ground and not moving. John was alone and confessed it to Pete in 1973 saying "I don't know if he ever got up after that". He also later told Pete he believed Karma would give him a violent death. No one knows whether he killed the guy, although the author claims to have studied the German news and saw no reports of an incident like that.

Apparently Yoko was gonna sue the author for Libel but then decided not to. She said she was on the verge of suicide after reading it.

Have any of you read this book. I am interested in what you think. The author states he researched for years and he basically interviewed and interacted with everyone John knew for years. Some people say it's bullshit, but I donno. It honestly kind of bothers me that he may have been this fucked, I always looked up to the Beatles..
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: John Lennon.. a violent menace?

Yeah he beat his wives, everyone knows that. But most of the Beatles beat their wives. i think ringo was the only one who didn't. They were rockstars though, what do you expect? The british sailor story doesnt seem believable because Lennon and Pete Best werent the strongest of dudes.

Lennon was a great man who everyone should look up to because he risked everything to start a peace movement. He left the biggest band on the planet, using his iconic figure status to change the world for the better. Then later he overcame his drug addiction and dedicated his life to his family and to peace. What did paul do? went on tour because he decided he wanted more money. fuck him.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: John Lennon.. a violent menace?

I haven't read the book, but it sounds like much of it isn't easily confirmed? I'll check it out.

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Yeah he beat his wives, everyone knows that [...] Lennon was a great man who everyone should look up to because he risked everything to start a peace movement.
No! If his personal life was unacceptable -- which, by my standards, spouse beating would make it -- we mustn't look up to him. It doesn't mean that we cannot appreciate the positive things he did. But it does disentitle him from being a role model.
Generally speaking, the world would be a much better place it there was less hero- and celebrity worship going on.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:30 PM
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wow, not to sound nooby but i had no idea he beat up women
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It's a pretty common fact he beat his wives, but look at the time period. Domestic violence was still quite common so I wouldn't really take it too far out of context.

It hardly takes away from his musical legacy or anything else.
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LOL, I did not like him before, but i do now.
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