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Old 07-03-2009, 08:40 PM
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I've made this post - well, just the part dealing with internal hard drives - on Totse, I might have made it again on here, and I really don't give a fuck. There's also an x-box / other electronics return fraud thread. We're going to ignore it, because it sucks.

Return fraud works in a few different ways, and THERE ARE NO CLIFFS NOTES. Pop an adderall if you're ADHD.

1) You have something that doesn't work, and you want to exchange it for something that does, and you don't want to go through warranty bullshit. In fact, you don't even have a warranty or a receipt because you bought it from Wal-Mart or K-Mart or Target a year ago. Staples, Best Buy, and other electronics stores are harder to trick, although they have better shit.

Electronics are the only real candidate here, because they can look perfectly good and still not work, as opposed to, perhaps, a broken futon.

2) You want to buy something, return something that doesn't work, and then sell the thing that does work on eBay, craigslist, etc.

3) You want to buy two different items that look very similar but have a massive price difference, and then return the cheaper one inside the more expensive packaging.

(There's a fourth variant, shoplifting and returning. That's just bush league and it puts you at way too much risk. Instead, just shoplift while you're in the store to buy the item(s), and when you come back to do the return. If you get caught pocketing $30 worth of goods while spending $200+, you're going to be politely given the option to pay for the items that "Accidentally fell into my open cargo pocket, sir. Of course I meant to pay for them, along with the items in my cart. I'm a regular shopper here and I'd never steal from this store." See? Lower your risk. Always lower your risk. Amateurs accept risk as a cost of doing business and a fact of life. Professionals seek to eliminate it.)


Now, all of these three variants have one unyielding barrier to entry:

$$$.

You can't exactly return fraud an XBOX 360 (avoid this unless you're doing the full on xbox repair/return scam, which involves combining the income streams of having an unlimited supply of quality replacement parts for free (the return fraud part) and selling 'repaired' xboxes for as much as you can get aftet you get the broken ones for next to nothing. You have to be good to not get caught because almost every redneck/wigger tries to return their broken xbox for a new one, although after you read my post you will have some of the techniques necessary. There's another thread that went into this on detail, someone post the link thanks.) unless you have a few hundred bucks to invest in the first place.

In other words, you can't do this if you're one of those "I have $10 and need to make $1000 this month HOW DO I DO IT" people that used to pop on Totse every other day.

VARIANT 1

"Mah shit be broken and I wantz to return it for new shit"

Examine your shit. How clean and unscratched/damaged is it? If you are a slob, it might look like trash. If you're a neat freak like myself, it still might be messed up because it was probably made in china out of soft crappy plastic.

Does it look clean? Passable as being used for a day or two? Good.

Now go shopping for a replacement item, and bring it home. You may want to give yourself a few days float time, although I've returned some things after swapping them out in the parking lot. The return person WILL be able to see when you bought it, although they probably won't bother to pay attention to it.

Pro-Tip: Keep your pricey electronics as pristine as possible. Leave those clear plastic films on your printers, for example. You know the fucking thing is going to break in a year, and that clingfilm is the difference between a successful return and a failure.

Depending on the item, you may need to do some modification. Only swap out the critical parts. Don't be a greedy 'tard and swap out EVERYTHING. You don't need the cables, unless they're broken, and if you're return frauding for cables.. god help you, you gigantic jew. (And I'm half jew so I know what I'm fuckin' talking about.) Leaving the accessories in like new still twistie tied and plasticed up condition is a vital key to success.

For example, SD cards go bad. These are tricky, and I just did a SD card today. I used a razorblade to start peeling the label, only enough to get the edge up. Using a razor on a SD label leaves more residue than just peeling and constantly risks slicing and tearing up the edge of the label. It's not a paper sticker, it's a very thin polymer sticker. Pick a card with a body color and lock button that matches the one you have to return. There's some nice 16gb ones out there.

This isn't a for-profit return, it's a zero-cost way to have something work again (and swap a broken 250mb card for a 2gb-10gb if you can match the colors and do the label work well). I mean, cards aren't worth much, but they're good practice.

Know what they'll ask and what you'll say. It's best to say the item is defective so it doesn't go back on the shelf. You do not, under any circumstances, want to make an exchange. (Although anyone with a brain can see how they could turn around and sell what they got in exchange, you're never going to get as much as you will in a straight return. You could also try to get something better in exchange without anyone catching on, if you're a ballsy asshole.) You bought it, it never worked, you're frustrated, you want to return it. Have the receipt. Always have the receipt. Scribble a name, make it gibberish. They don't care.

Take your cash and walk out. Ta-da.

VARIANT 2

"I needz some moneyz!"

There are only a few options in brick and mortar stores, and the best ones are Internal and External hard drives.

Keep in mind that you will be paying much more than these things are actually worth, so when you sell the unused item, you're not going to get the same amount that you paid. E.g., I buy an internal at wally world for $120, then return it. I could get maybe $60 on eBay, especially since it won't have original packaging or any labels on the drive (we'll get to that in a second.)

Still, that's around a 150% return on your investment, and obviously, well worth it.

Opening external drives is, at first, a complicated process. You'll need to look up information for your manufacturer and model. However, they CAN be undetectably opened and resealed, often very easily. You just have to go slow and work with precision. Once they're open, you can replace the standard internal HD you will find inside with anything you like, even a weight. I prefer to use my junked internals for a standard internal return, but you could stick one in instead. Use the same technique as I will describe next if you put a drive inside the external, just in case. Why? Because being thorough is the difference between having a fat wad of cash in your wallet and being interviewed by a cop. However, only Best Buy / Staples are likely to open an external drive.

The good thing about external drives is once you're done, it's undetectable.

Internal drives are easier in some ways, harder in others. All you need is a drive that looks the same and has a similar heft. Then, you need a heat gun or hair drier. Heat the labels on the junker, and they should lift right off. The top label isn't the only one though- your goal is complete and total label removal, including the tiny number serial codes on the bottom / sides.

Pro-Tip: Always practice label removal and re-application on the junk device first. You get one practice run, then you have to do it on the good device for real, and put it on the junker.

Once you're done with that, toss the junker labels, and remove the good drive's labels. All of them, like above, except you re-apply them to the junker in the same places. Why? You'll see.

Package it back up and go in for the return. Make something up about it making a grinding sound and then drive errors. Now, on $100+ items, you should expect a bit of scrutiny, even at Wal-Mart.

In my case, the first time I did it, I swapped over ALL labels just like described above, and felt silly for wasting the effort.

I didn't feel so silly when the geriatric lady took the drive out of the box to make sure the serials on it matched the box.

Then I sold the good drive on eBay for a few bucks, and that's the end of that first time.

VARIANT 3

"Holy shitz, that 4gb usb thumb drive looks identical to that 16gb thumb drive..."

This is always based on opportunity. For example, certain sandisk drives are packaged in packaging that identifies their size, but the drive itself has no labeling on the front, at least, where you see it through the clear plastic.

One costs $12. The other costs $40. Not exactly a fortune to be made here especially with resale, but why not take advantage of something if it's there?

Pro-Tip: When you can get things for $$ less than they should have cost, and you can use those things to enhance your life, it's the same thing as straight out stealing that money and then giving it to yourself.

I think you should be able to figure that variant out from here. Just don't buy both items at the same time on the same receipt, or with the same card. It's best to have a friend, if you're going to be doing returns often. That way you don't have to deal with people at the customer service counter getting used to your pretty face, and even people with shit minimum wage jobs sometimes ask questions and drop dimes. Not all of them get by on the lowest amount of give-a-fuck necessary.

Oh shit, mister BadShovelhead! I think I just got caught! What do I do?

Well, it's a good thing you're having this thought now, instead of when you're in line at the return desk and the lady there is asking you why something doesn't match (because you fucked up) or why the item looks so used and old even though you bought it two hours ago (because you fucked up) or why they plugged it in and the 650gb Fujitsu hard drive is actually a 28gb Western Digital. (because you're probably in a Best Buy) Either that or you're telepathic and are somehow contacting me while I'm still writing this. Let's get you sorted out before I finish this post:

Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

"Someone must have returned this broken item, you put it back on the shelf, and I bought it. I'm going to go to the news! Remember when someone did this with a camcorder and it was full of porn? What if it had been me, and I had kids? What would you do about that?! Do you want kids to be looking porn? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!"

Flip out. You are the innocent customer. You have been defrauded. Embrace your role, and management will bend over to placate you. Of course, after this incident, you won't be able to do it to the same store again, which shouldn't bother you too much after you've got your return processed, and very likely a generous gift card to encourage you to keep shopping there.

Bonus story: How I fucked Staples, which isn't always so easy.

Now, remember when I said you should keep plasti-film on your printers so the buttons and control panels stay clean? Yeah, this is how I ripped Staples for a brand new printer for certain, ahem, unsavory activities that wouldn't trace back to me at all. I got a multifunction copier with them for around $250-300, and kept it in good shape. It started getting paperjams after 7-8 months, and I couldn't fix it. This printer did not originate at Staples, by the way.

So, I went to that store and I bought the same printer and I did a direct swap. I even removed every possible exterior part from the new printer and put it on the old printer. Objective: make it look brand new and unused. I took the cling film off the new printer and put it where it was on the old one, because although the film will keep protecting if you leave it on, it'll eventually get beat up on the outer side. Bonus: no fingerprints on the buttons. I then returned the printer and told them it got paperjams and I didn't want it anymore. I kept the new printer which had a record in the system of being returned and not sold to anyone, and I may have used it to make some neat documents, utility related invoices, and pictures of dead people.

If they had checked the serials, I may have been fucked, but the printer was so festooned with the trappings of new-ness that they didn't even bother. When you can keep people from even bothering to check, you know you've got your scheme set up right.


Now hit the thanks button, fuckers. My fingers hurt.

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Old 07-03-2009, 08:46 PM
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Thanks for the input.

I read it half way, I will read it again after some finishing up.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:54 PM
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Curse my OCD obsession with editing things until they look just right.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:03 AM
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Bookmarked, thanks for the guide man
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:21 PM
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You're welcome.

Not that I've got an ego or anything, but this is one of the better guides in BI on zoklet.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:40 AM
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Let's re-visit the Sandisk Scheme.

You got two near-identical packages.



The only difference is the packaging itself, and the number on the drive.

Fortunately for us, they put the size and model number on the back of these drives. You could try for the $9 2gb model, but it has a totally different physical design and has the size on the front.

Get or shoplift the 4gb, and buy the 16gb. Use cash for things you'll return. Always.

Then, we have to assess methods of entry, by destroying and experimenting with the 4gb package. Minor FYI: the security strip is about an inch above the usb stick itself. This won't matter unless you're lifting.



That's how you get in. Use a razorblade to make the first proper opening, then finish with a knife. Pop and switch the drives. I suggest scratching up the back so in case they do open it, they can't immediately tell that it's a 4gb in a 16gb package, although they won't even open it if you're good with the packaging.



Haven't even glued it yet and it's still practically perfect.

In a day or two I'm going to have someone return a flawless 16gb usb drive package for me, they'll give me the cash back, and I'll have a massive usb device for $12. Not exactly a get rich quick scheme, but it'll keep your skills fresh.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:04 AM
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Pretty neat. I like how simple the USB drive fraud is yet it requires you to keep the package perfect. Fun practice.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:31 AM
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On second thought, you could print a small label that says "Sandisk 16gb, removal voids warranty." and apply it to the back of the thumbdrive instead of scratching up the size information. Of course, it would probably look like shit because as we can see in the coupon thread, most people can't convincingly forge corporate type labeling/branding.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:00 AM
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Very nice write up. Return scams are a great way to be safe and still make some money. I wrote a detailed one on 360 returns a while back.

the only wild card factor I can think of to add is a lot of the time if you buy a broken item on ebay it's nowhere near as described and usually not worth it to return it.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:16 AM
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Thanks for this guide good sir.
Well written
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:18 PM
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A 16gb usb key is not enough storage.

My movies must have a one terabyte hard drive.

Update coming shortly..
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:49 PM
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Get to ye store.

Buy a 1TB Western Digital My Book (essential edition).

You won't have to look for that specific model, it's just what is likely to be there.

Ignore all guides for opening this external drive. They don't apply to the newer models. There is no hidden screw. Do you remember changing a bike tire?

Good.

Get a small screwdriver, a knife, and a razorblade if you like using razors, (I sure do!) then get to work:



It has cling wrap! HUZZAH!



Doubtless now you are observing your drive and looking for means of entry. Ignore the little locking sign thing. There is no use to it. Poke a screwdriver down there if you really feel like it, and you will find there is nothing to unlock. Boo hiss, etc.

http://www.instructables.com/id/SJ9JSY3FD80OZCL/ <- We will be doing this.

Pop it open, do it all the way around for both sides.



Not the best picture, but there isn't much to show. It's very easy, it won't mess anything up unless you have the grace and subtlety of a raging chimp, and you'll have the inner liner slid out and to the side in almost no time.

The drive is screwed to a metal cooling and power substructure which is cushioned from the main shell by rubber feet. They are flexible and allow you to pop it out with ease. You will need to do this in order to work on the rest of the drive comfortably. There is a clear plastic thing that acts like a ghetto fiber optic tube for lights from the drive's circuitboard. It's fragile but it also doesn't matter at all. Depending on how obsessive you are, throw it out or put it to the side, gently.

Once the drive structure itself is removed, grab the screwdriver and prepare to free your prize. First, undo the two little screws on that little shiny metal box.



And then slide it out, pry it out, etc. It doesn't really matter and if you bash it up you can bend it back into shape.

If your replacement drive is NOT a SATA interface, snap the sata plug off the little circuitboard that rides along inside the metal box. It's easy, like wringing a stinking gook's neck in the cambodian jungle. Click, snap, done.

Remove all of the screws that hold the drive in place. Happily, when your replacement is installed, one side of it will be completely unviewable unless they undo these screws too. This is a barrier to your fraud being discovered because people are lazy.

Your new 1TB drive will neatly drop out into your waiting hand.


Prepare your replacement. It will screw back in exactly the same way.



For the paranoid, wipe up fingerprints.

The USB and power sockets can be a bit of a pain, but once you screw the metal box and circuitboard back in place, everything is lined up properly again. Toss out some the extra metal around the connectors if you pulled out the board and can't get it back in with the same precision, it won't matter in the end.

Sealing it all up is easier than opening it, it snaps right back together. Examine briefly for any marks or blemishes to fix, adjust the cling wrap, and then seal it all back up and prepare for a return.

Note: to properly 'sell' this return, open up all the cables and then stuff them back in the box, sloppily. This makes it seem like you tried to use it and then were frustrated when it "just doesn't do anything at all." which will be the case if you put an IDE drive into the enclosure, and still might be the case if you used a scrap SATA.

Return, pocket $100-140, and start filling your new drive.

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Old 07-09-2009, 05:04 PM
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Serial obfuscated and pic reposted.
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Haha this isn't really a scam but I just "rent" things from Future Shop by just buying a product and on the 29th day of owning the product I bring it back and i get every single penny back lmfao I get big 60 inch plasma tv's and just bring them back before 30 days and get all my money back. All you need is the upfront money this works well if you want A huge stereo system for a party or some kind of event etc.
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Very well written, and very helpful.

You should try doing a blogzine.
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thanks, you have any tips on returning lifted shit for store credit. bozo recently got a wirelsss N usb adpater and a 16 gb SD card, carefully disected the usb adapter package and removed the security tag on the inside. also removed the tag on the sd card package but also its hella beat up, what should i do?
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What is the 'original switcheroo scam'?

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1.) Someone goes on eBay and searches for something that they have, but is out of working order. Usually electronics. There can be no apparent physical damage to the property. It's just 'out of order'. Same model, same exact thing, being sold.

2.) The person buys this merchandise and has it shipped to them.

3.) The person claims that the merchandise isn't working upon arrival. They claim they want a refund and threaten to take authoritative action against the seller if the seller objects. The seller ships her the money back and the buyer ships back their original property but keeps the working product that the seller shipped.

This worked most of the time - back in 2002-2006. Today, most sellers are aware of this scam. The thing is, electronic devices typically have serial numbers in the form of a metallic sticker somewhere on the product. Shippers (the smart ones, for that matter) take pictures of these stickers and many times post these pictures on eBay to discourage fraud.

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The 'Reverse' Switcheroo Scam

1.) Find broken merchandise. Electronics only. The product has to be capable of selling at a bare minimum of 250 dollars. Anything else isn't worth the trouble. You can use some of your electronics that don't work, or find them for free by digging in the garbage bins of electronics stores, or advertising for free broken merchandise on craigslist.

2.) Make sure the merchandise doesn't have any permanent (embedded) serial numbers. If they've got these trash them. No good.

3.) Find the little black metallic serial number on the merchandise and TAKE A PIC OF IT, ALONG WITH VARIOUS PICS OF THE MERCHANDISE FOR THE EBAY PAGE.

3.)Take the little black metallic serial number sticker on the merchandise, measure it in centimeters and peel it off. Use acetone and a sharp object to remove any adhesive that still remains, if it remains. Make the surface smooth.

4.) Go to the store and buy aluminum foil tape.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...ingid=50550648

5.) Take a picture of the sticker or scan it and put it up on photoshop or Gimp. Change the serial number with one of these programs. If the number is 5937295, make it 383058383. Whatever. If you look at the sticker you will see that where the letters are, they are not of white ink, they are just where the black ink didn't touch the metallic sticker. The only ink on the sticker is black. So you need to cut out each letter from the image of the sticker using your program. Make the letters FUCKING TRANSPARENT.

5.) Put a regular sheet of A2 paper in a laser printer and boot Gimp or Photoshop. Using one of these programs, create a black square the size of the sticker in centimeters. If the sticker measured 2 x 4 centimeters, make the square 2 x3 centimeters in gimp or photoshop. Print this square on a sheet of paper and see where it printed.

6) Take your aluminum foil tape and cut it out the same size as the sticker, and tape it over the black square. Put the paper back in the printer and print over it.

7.) Carefully peel the tape off of the paper and use a minuscule amount of adhesive to stick it on to the broken merchandise. MAKE IT SMOOTH, EVEN AND CLEAN!

8.) Now, you have a product with a false serial number. Take those pictures you took of it with the old, real serial number and post them up on eBay. Wait for a buyer. When you get one, get their money. Ship the product out. Go buy your mom something nice with the money, she deserves it. When they come bitching about the product not working, tell them you are familiar with scams and you want to see a picture of the serial number. LOL!!! There's nothing they can do about it. Ebay is very familiar with these switcheroo goons. They will take your side, all the time, every time. Tell them you will press charges or get eBay involved after you show them that's not the real serial number. Make sure they know you don't want any trouble from a bitch ass fraud. LMFAO!!!
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:13 AM
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Very nice idea. However It has become rare instances where the seller ever wins, even if he has high feedback; this is why I just started buying goods off ebay and sending a spoofed and false paypal payment e-mail or just sending them a false e-mail after I'd bought the item going on about confirming a purchase through payal, they'd usually just think they got sent thee-mail twice unless you put in a different item number in which case they'll get curious and try logging in the phisher page. Alternatively send them a false one from ebay or paypal about fraudulent activity (goes well if they've just sold something to you) and get them to log in your phisher pages.

Cashing out stolen paypals is easy, PM me if you want to know how.
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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I just do this at stores, and don't even deal with eBay. Walmart is the best, I always do it with xbox headsets.

Just buy something exactly like yours that doesn't work, bring it home and take out the good one, put in the old one, return with receipt to prevent ID scan, get money back, win. Its very easy, because Walmart never checks serial numbers or anything. They don't check if it works either.

It isn't profitable at all, but since this is a switcharoo thread I figured I'd contribute.
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I was just looking at one of my old iPod boxes and on the packaging the serial number, part number and barcode is on a sticker on the box. I got to htinking if you have a broken iPod (bought off eBay or otherwise) the same as the one you're buying then this will work. Change the serial number on the sticker to that of the broken ipod and keep everything else (part number and barcode) on the sticker of the one you just recently bought from the store as the same. Take it to the store and say it doesn't work, they'll check the serial number and scan the barcode (so make sure you choose the right type) on the back to make sure it's the same one on the sticker on the side of the box. You get your money back and get to keep a working one. I'd assume the serial number of the ipod doesn't show up when the barcode is scanned but I'm not sure; does anyone know?

Any way, Jim's idea is better.
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F**********CK!

My walmart has the 1TB HDD's locked up tight and theres only 1 500GB that isn't spiderwrapped. I should have racked it, but again, I was with my mother.
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Most stores won't let you return something if it's not in it's original packaging - whether you have the receipt or not. How do you get around this?
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Some items like the USB drives above have nearly the same packaging; the only thing different is the GB logos. The drives are exactly the same.

Simply give them the 16GB pacakge and collect the 16gb money with your 1/4 gb drive in there. Basically a cheap way to get a 16gb drive ($12?); but no profit.

My Kmart has a 2gb for $9 that looks just like a 16gb; i'll look into that.
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Some items like the USB drives above have nearly the same packaging; the only thing different is the GB logos. The drives are exactly the same.

Simply give them the 16GB pacakge and collect the 16gb money with your 1/4 gb drive in there. Basically a cheap way to get a 16gb drive ($12?); but no profit.

My Kmart has a 2gb for $9 that looks just like a 16gb; i'll look into that.
Yes, I know that. But how do you reseal the package (good enough for the staff not to notice it's been resealed) after you open it? A lot of stores won't let you return something if the packaging has been opened.
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Yes, I know that. But how do you reseal the package (good enough for the staff not to notice it's been resealed) after you open it? A lot of stores won't let you return something if the packaging has been opened.
As BadShovelhead showed above, he opened the 16GB package very carefully at the seams and glued it up. Seems like he has a little function out of return fraud; with those USB drives all over his picturers.
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As BadShovelhead showed above, he opened the 16GB package very carefully at the seams and glued it up. Seems like he has a little function out of return fraud; with those USB drives all over his picturers.
Hmm, I guess...
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What a great time for my poor WD to fuck out.
I'll be stopping at my Kmart soon.

My current HD is a WD Caviar (I think) 7200rpm 40gb.
It was free and better drives were being given out but I wanted it for the speed. It's served about 6 years strong for me; and it's filling up with gobs of garbage files as I speak.
(I picked it up from a curbside eviction dump; there was about $5,000 in computers sitting; but they were white and ugly. I should have opened them all up, but I wasn't thinking.)

Time for a nice 500gb from Kmart!
Will post pictures when I can; expect sometime next week.

Edit: Holy fuck! My current HD is about $95 on Amazon! It's ancient and they want the price of a terabyte comparable speed drive!
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita.../dp/B0006BK508

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thanks, you have any tips on returning lifted shit for store credit.

First, learn to barcode.

Copy down the UPC of what you lifted, buy something that costs even more (preferably at least 150% more) than it did with the barcode of what you stole, use the receipt to return your lifted item for full value and sell the barcoded item on ebay.

IE, steal a $100 blender, use the barcode for the $100 blender to buy a $200 blender (paying $100), use that receipt to return the $100 blender for full value, then ebay the $200 blender. Obviously this is a kludgy system, you're better off just straight barcoding and then realizing that something you used a barcode for is actually laying around your house with original packaging and returning it on a whim for some extra barcode investment money.

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Seems like he has a little function out of return fraud; with those USB drives all over his picturers.
I've decided that it's just way, way easier to take one of the nice looking PNY usb drives down a corner and razorblade it out of the packaging, and that way you don't have to pay anything. This was all just for practice and fun, no profit was made.

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My walmart has the 1TB HDD's locked up tight and theres only 1 500GB that isn't spiderwrapped. I should have racked it, but again, I was with my mother.
This doesn't matter, you aren't stealing it. You're buying it and returning it. Make the damn employees get it out of lockup and sell it to you.

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Time for a nice 500gb from Kmart!
Will post pictures when I can; expect sometime next week.
Just make goddamn sure you reformat the drive to NTFS before storing your shit on it, or else you'll end up with a drive that can't accept any files larger than 8gb that you can't reformat until you jack another drive to move all the files over onto.
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http://zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=31
Barcoded a $70 spotlight for $15; check it out. That's like 450% savings, idk.
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Shit.

Swim bought an external hard drive the other day, replaced the drive inside with one that didn't work and returned it. The store clerk gave swim a full refund, reluctantly. But the clerk asked for swim's name and address and swim, being as stupid as swim is, gave the clerk swim's name, but a similar address. Is swim fucked? Swim tried to seal it up as well as swim could so that it looked like it wasn't opened. Swim also wiped fingerprints.
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I wouldn't think they would go all FBI on your ass, but wait and see.

I would be surprised if they got to your house. Should have given them a fake name, dumbass.
And stop your swim shit, no one cares. In BI, there's one mod, and he's cool. He won't edit you or swim, but just don't post your real name and address, lol.
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Shit.

Swim bought an external hard drive the other day, replaced the drive inside with one that didn't work and returned it. The store clerk gave swim a full refund, reluctantly. But the clerk asked for swim's name and address and swim, being as stupid as swim is, gave the clerk swim's name, but a similar address. Is swim fucked? Swim tried to seal it up as well as swim could so that it looked like it wasn't opened. Swim also wiped fingerprints.
You're paranoid. Unless they're able to prove you switched it out, which they cannot, they would be subject to lawsuits for making any accusation against you. They probably asked for your details in case you pop up again so they can be weary of future return frauds.
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Well my Kmart had only 500gb HDD's. Oh well, that's okay. I need to barcode a TI83 or TI84 in order to get $100 for it tho.. Very overpriced.

Any tips on the barcoding of the 83/84? I'd actually like to stick with the 83, it's pretty ancient and the lady wouldn't notice an ancient looking gfx calculator with a barcode of a shitty $4 calc.
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Well my Kmart had only 500gb HDD's. Oh well, that's okay. I need to barcode a TI83 or TI84 in order to get $100 for it tho.. Very overpriced.

Any tips on the barcoding of the 83/84? I'd actually like to stick with the 83, it's pretty ancient and the lady wouldn't notice an ancient looking gfx calculator with a barcode of a shitty $4 calc.
There will probably be TI calculators that look similar and are only $7-12 dollars. Use your imagination.
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There was a TI 30 or something for $15.

Idk if it's worth the money to barcode...
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Done, posts from this [ http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=59707 ] thread have been copied into this thread.

Have fun.
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Done, posts from this [ http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=59707 ] thread have been copied into this thread.

Have fun.
The fuck? I didn't give you permission to fuck up my thread.
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What does saying swim have to do with mods? I'll say whatever the fuck I want. And I hope you were joking about the dumbass
Sorry dude. I just meant that you can say that you did it. It's not like anyone here knows your name, just Kume.
Everyone makes mistakes, good thing you gave a diff addy. they probably sent a letter saying return fraud. lol.
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