The Theoretical Ethical Considerations of Giving JP an AI loli

[Rizzo in a box]

Gather round, children, while Uncle Rizzo weaves a story for yr delight and amusement.

The year is 2034, on planet Earth. Life is very different from what we know now. Many strange climatic and geological disasters have taken place, scattering populaces in a haphazard fashion. There have been many bloody, occult revolutions within the Inner Circles of the power elite. In one part of the world, the Crypto-Fascist Anarchs have developed a sort of paradoxical, Tao-based dual dystopian/utopian culture.

Technology and imagination have blended together quite seamlessly, and humanity has had to consciously guide its evolution ever since things started to get Bad and Ugly. I am at the center of one particular community, and they treat me as a sort of War-Lord, even though I have for years been preaching the freedom inherent in all of us. Some people, apparently, just won't listen.

It's okay though, JoePedo is at the head of another community. We in fact, are allies, as there are several backwards thinking, fundamental traditionalists who do not like the way the world, or certain parts of it, operates now. Those who have not been able to deal with massive future shock but have still survived the harsh realities act like crippled vampires with post-traumatic stress disorder.

JP & I, in this post-apocalyptic future, are waging a war against certain sects through the utilization of highly specialized knowledge we have cultivated. On his part, he has synthesized drugs the likes that have never been seen or heard of before. He lives in a floating pyramid, five hundred feet above the ground, and inscribed upon it are these words:

The spice extends life...

You know where I'm going with that. But it is no joke, in this age, those who have access to a highly refined version of the spice are just short of Immortal. We have, in fact, recovered the Tree of Life from the Garden of Idun. Golden apples for the Norse Gods! But I ramble...

My own personal expertise is in all the subtleties of consciousness, psychology, perception, and the manipulation thereof. Nine-tenths of the labor force in my community are robots which for all intents and purposes, are human. They possess a complete human body, and their brain works on a strange, chaotic energy network based on a programmed set of causal principles.

I provide JP with workers, and he provides me with Spice. Together, we fight for the survival and advancement of mankind. We are not without our vices, though, and one night we meet at an ultra-post modern electronic dance club in my city. A robotic clone of Salvador Dali is the headline DJ, and we have been feeding him massive quantities of mescaline for two years straight.

Motioning to JP, I take him into a back room. There I show him a gift I have worked hard and long on: the most realistic artificial intelligence in a human body yet. She's blond, nine years old, blue eyes, dressed up like Alice, and has been made exclusively to pleasure JP in whatever fashion he can devise. She can also read minds, predicting exactly what a person needs, and providing it.

Alice not only passed the Turing Test, she blushed during it.

So, &Z, how can we prepare for the new ethics of the future?

ALSO

I am a very lonely person. Please send me nail-clippings.

There, now it has forum relevance.

[Chris]

rape maybe?

[pygar]

Well....in the world you (and Frank Herbert) are describing there is no rule of law...there is no god (or he has abandoned us) and humanity is oppressed.

In that type of world, who gives a fuck about a few pedos roaming free

[Rizzo in a box]

Originally Posted by fined_mind

Well....in the world you (and Frank Herbert) are describing there is no rule of law...there is no god (or he has abandoned us) and humanity is oppressed.

In that type of world, who gives a fuck about a few pedos roaming free

So then, without a sufficient amount of excess leisure time (& the class of people that follows), morality reduces itself to pragmatism?

Desperate times call for desperate measures?

Is all good then Lazy and all evil Active?

[pygar]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

So then, without a sufficient amount of excess leisure time (& the class of people that follows), morality reduces itself to pragmatism?

yes

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

Desperate times call for desperate measures?

yes

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

Is all good then Lazy and all evil Active?

yes

good Ethics and Morals are the result of a full stomach.

If you're struggling to survive in a fucked world, would you concern yourself with good vs evil???

btw....wrong forum

[Lord hang man]

Whoa, that's good. Kudos mate.
I say, in so far as ethics are concerned, this AI certainly does not violate any inherent human right that I can imagine. I don't believe man can reproduce god's gift to us, that is our soul which we must feed love, or risk it withering away. However, I must inquire how advanced this AI is.
To start, does it feel, does it recognize it's existence when joe is not present? Creating an entity who only serves to pleasure while being left to formulate views on life rather than acting simply as a simulation of something real: this strikes me as playing god, in a sense. We have no right to create life that is aware of its surrounding, while we do not understand the meaning of the Scrolls.

[nshanin]

This nutmeg's really gotten to you, huh Rizzo? When will you lay off?

[pygar]

who is to say what is life and what isn't?? If the AI robot thinks ("I think therefore I am") it is a 9yro girl and people confuse it for a real 9 year old girl, then it is a 9 year old girl with the same rights as a human.

whether it is made out of wires or blood is an insignificant point.

[Rizzo in a box]

What the fuck?

The politics forum?

That's bullshit.

At least put it in humanities.

Seriously now.

I knew it wouldn't get any replies as soon as it was moved.

[LiquidIce]

Maybe the 'new ethics' will be a huge leap in paradigms, something outside our current scope of conception?

I remember one long dead sci-fi author envisioned the world of the future as constricted with billions of... telegraph wires. He could not fathom a world of fiber-optic cables or wireless technologies. So maybe we are in his place?

But it's always fun to muse about.

[Rizzo in a box]

Haha, yeah, we're probably all about to evolve to the level of pure acceptance and total love of everything in such a novel fashion that we will BLOW OUR COLLECTIVE pre-metamorphosis minds with the sheer brightness of our smiles.

Our giggles shall be cosmic.

[LiquidIce]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

Haha, yeah, we're probably all about to evolve to the level of pure acceptance and total love of everything in such a novel fashion that we will BLOW OUR COLLECTIVE pre-metamorphosis minds with the sheer brightness of our smiles.

Our giggles shall be cosmic.

That would be fun. Don't see it happening in the next 30-50 years, but you never know, eh? Even today you can buy real dolls(tm) that look like 12 year old girls. If they animate them (Herbert West Deanimator lol?), then all the better for the pedos.

[T.K. Baha]

It sounds like you have been reading too much Dune. And no robots don't have rights. You could whatever the hell you wanted to it by todays standards. But by future standards who knows and who cares? Morality is relative. A long time ago it was fine for older men to marry family members barely in their teens and you could beat you wife and make blacks do your work. Morality is cultural and changes with the times. And what the fuck Rizzo. Lay off the drugs.

[Rizzo in a box]

What do you mean what the fuck. You what the fuck, homo. Drugs will lay on me as much as they want.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

What do you mean what the fuck. You what the fuck, homo. Drugs will lay on me as much as they want.

You think you're funny. You aren't. Shut the fuck up. Thanks.

[Rust]

Unlocked. Congrats.

[And thanks Exploitz]

[Rizzo in a box]

nice

[nutsack]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

nice

This.

[iMagiNation]

Originally Posted by nshanin

This nutmeg's really gotten to you, huh Rizzo? When will you lay off?

I wonder what this mother fucker has to say now that he, too, is a nutmeg freak...

Oh dear, the things we have wrought, and have still to wrought.

You think you're funny. You aren't. Shut the fuck up. Thanks.

The epic butthurtness of rust is awesome sometimes. It glows like a star that long ago faded.

[nshanin]

Originally Posted by iMagiNation

I wonder what this mother fucker has to say now that he, too, is a nutmeg freak...

Oh dear, the things we have wrought, and have still to wrought.

Zoklet's fringe is too powerful, the dark side beckons.

[iMagiNation]

The further out you go the closer to home you become.

[Headspin]

Posting to keep this thread alive.

[iMagiNation]

Re-reading my OP makes me want to write a short story based around this entire premise and the dystopian imagery. However I might want to include other totseans.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by iMagiNation

The epic butthurtness of rust is awesome sometimes. It glows like a star that long ago faded.

You just fished a 2+ year old thread out of the Trashcan to say that with no sense of irony?

[iMagiNation]

No, not really. I think there were two versions of this thread made.

Either way, whoever put this thread in the trash can is obviously a fucking moron.

[Rust]

^ "Epic butthurtness".

[iMagiNation]

You wish it was epic so that you could feel special.

[Rust]

Okay fine: that was just plain, vanilla butthurtness on your part.

[iMagiNation]

That's much better.

[jheit8]