The Theoretical Ethical Condiserations of Giving JP an AI loli (part deux)

[Rizzo in a box]

[posting it in humanities because cliche said I could <3]

Gather round, children, while Uncle Rizzo weaves a story for yr delight and amusement.

The year is 2034, on planet Earth. Life is very different from what we know now. Many strange climatic and geological disasters have taken place, scattering populaces in a haphazard fashion. There have been many bloody, occult revolutions within the Inner Circles of the power elite. In one part of the world, the Crypto-Fascist Anarchs have developed a sort of paradoxical, Tao-based dual dystopian/utopian culture.

Technology and imagination have blended together quite seamlessly, and humanity has had to consciously guide its evolution ever since things started to get Bad and Ugly. I am at the center of one particular community, and they treat me as a sort of War-Lord, even though I have for years been preaching the freedom inherent in all of us. Some people, apparently, just won't listen.

It's okay though, JoePedo is at the head of another community. We in fact, are allies, as there are several backwards thinking, fundamental traditionalists who do not like the way the world, or certain parts of it, operates now. Those who have not been able to deal with massive future shock but have still survived the harsh realities act like crippled vampires with post-traumatic stress disorder.

JP & I, in this post-apocalyptic future, are waging a war against certain sects through the utilization of highly specialized knowledge we have cultivated. On his part, he has synthesized drugs the likes that have never been seen or heard of before. He lives in a floating pyramid, five hundred feet above the ground, and inscribed upon it are these words:

The spice extends life...

You know where I'm going with that. But it is no joke, in this age, those who have access to a highly refined version of the spice are just short of Immortal. We have, in fact, recovered the Tree of Life from the Garden of Idun. Golden apples for the Norse Gods! But I ramble...

My own personal expertise is in all the subtleties of consciousness, psychology, perception, and the manipulation thereof. Nine-tenths of the labor force in my community are robots which for all intents and purposes, are human. They possess a complete human body, and their brain works on a strange, chaotic energy network based on a programmed set of causal principles.

I provide JP with workers, and he provides me with Spice. Together, we fight for the survival and advancement of mankind. We are not without our vices, though, and one night we meet at an ultra-post modern electronic dance club in my city. A robotic clone of Salvador Dali is the headline DJ, and we have been feeding him massive quantities of mescaline for two years straight.

Motioning to JP, I take him into a back room. There I show him a gift I have worked hard and long on: the most realistic artificial intelligence in a human body yet. She's blond, nine years old, blue eyes, dressed up like Alice, and has been made exclusively to pleasure JP in whatever fashion he can devise. She can also read minds, predicting exactly what a person needs, and providing it.

Alice not only passed the Turing Test, she blushed during it.

So, &Z, how can we prepare for the new ethics of the future?

[Cliche Guevara]

Well, like I mentioned in other thread. I prescribe to the star trek future. (minus the intergalatic politics and hostile aliens) Although I guess with future technology and science, there could be a whole plethora of future problems. I like to think that as technology grows we will come to a point where everybody on earth has everything they need to lead an extremely well and happy life. Without strife or hunger what would the problems be? Everybody will have all the resources they need and the only purpose of life would be self improvement.

Ethics will become an archaic word as people will have everything they need in terms of entertainment (holographic pedephilia for those with baby lovin tendencies) and synthesized dolphin meat for the curious.

And dare I say it? Drugs with no ill effect on neural pathways.

but you know... post apocalyptic wastelands with crazy new technology sounds pretty fun too.

[InspiredByMe]

If we all fucked 9 year olds the human race would end because no one would even want to penetrate the worn out vag of a 15 year old.

[Rizzo in a box]

bump for lolz

[Mr.Happy]

I think everyone will be too busy screwing their perfect AI partners to hold ethics committees.

That's a more serious point than you'd think. Someone once said that the holodeck would be the last invention of humanity; once we can lose ourselves in fantasies indistinguishable from reality, what appeal does true reality hold?

[Azure]

What in the fuck did you just say?

[Rizzo in a box]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

I think everyone will be too busy screwing their perfect AI partners to hold ethics committees.

That's a more serious point than you'd think. Someone once said that the holodeck would be the last invention of humanity; once we can lose ourselves in fantasies indistinguishable from reality, what appeal does true reality hold?

I hold that this has already happened; what we think is reality is in fact phantom projections of our mind.

[Mr.Happy]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

I hold that this has already happened; what we think is reality is in fact phantom projections of our mind.

If so, I'm disappointed that the best my mind can conjure is sitting at home on Zoklet and getting up early for the beginnings of a busy working week tomorrow.

EDIT: I propose that your phantom mind projections are largely due to consumption of nutmeg.

[T.K. Baha]

ITT: the crazy man defends child molesters.

But on another note, right and wrong past dont hurt other people is just social conditioning. In the future we will probably have a different set of values that people judge upon. Technology has already threw a bomb into the gears of our moral system with the internet and TV and thats only the beginning. Not much we can do except look forward to the days we can sit around drawing social security and bitching and moaning with "back in my day" stories. Thats just life.

[Rizzo in a box]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

If so, I'm disappointed that the best my mind can conjure is sitting at home on Zoklet and getting up early for the beginnings of a busy working week tomorrow.

EDIT: I propose that your phantom mind projections are largely due to consumption of nutmeg.

You've made the horrible mistake of confusing what you "do" with what "is". Reality can not be you, nor can it be what you are doing, because those notions are entirely dependent on the idea of a "subject". In other words, they are entirely subjective.

[Rizzo in a box]

bmp for stpid noob lol

[T.K. Baha]

Don't bump old threads niggar.

[Rizzo in a box]

dont tell me wehat ro do tyou fcking whore im a fcking mod i can do what ai lease

[Flex Rigid]

Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

You've made the horrible mistake of confusing what you "do" with what "is". Reality can not be you, nor can it be what you are doing, because those notions are entirely dependent on the idea of a "subject". In other words, they are entirely subjective.

Mind has just been blown.

[Akagi]

I assume the spice is fucking lolis then?

[Rizzo in a box]

no, it's not. that's ridiculous to assume. it's much more abstract. read moar occult pl0x

[Akagi]

I kinda glanced over it on the first read.

Looking at it more thoroughly, it would appear that the workers are robo-lolis and the spice is drugs. You create robot children to field to JP and in turn he gives you your fix. Kind of like Ghost in the Shell with substance abuse. People love children in 2034 A.D.

The question is, what is the battle? Is it society? Is it government? All of the above?

Maybe I'm off the mark.