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Old 07-13-2009, 11:28 PM
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i never thought in my early drug using years that i would ever get my hands on a synthetic cannabinoid. well friends, today i have and let me tell you......no where is off limits to just rape ur cb1 and cb2 receptors. the amount of euphoria given is pretty intense. i just feel fuckin amazing. i cant wait to eat this shit. i smoked maybe 4mg and about 6-7 minutes later i was fully blazed. straight on amazed at how awsome the high was. i dont kno why some people say theres no giddyness or gigglyness. i was laughing about everything i was thinkin of. very happy man. veryy happy. i have about maybe 2 grams of some 10 a g shit sitting next to a gram of jwh-018. i now look at the weed, as something to smoke after i vape my jwh.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:40 PM
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so thats 250 hits to a gram? did i get the maths right?

1000mg=1g
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:54 PM
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yeah just abourt 250 hits to a gram...it's FUN STUFF...but you build a tolerance to it rather fast, and the health data is next to unknown..personally i think Im forgetting stuff more that i use it...but I use A LOT of it. It gives me VERY STRONG but GOOD emotional waves...sorta like "im really happy, life is good : ) " type waves.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:57 PM
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Where did you get it, and where can the rest of us get some?
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:01 AM
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Hmm so would you go as far and say that people would readily purchase this at, say, $20 for 20mg?

For the above post, simple google search came up with a website that is JWH-018 without the dash and a .net at the end...
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:03 AM
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Where did you get it, and where can the rest of us get some?
Online chemical suppliers.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:20 AM
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think i seen it for 400pounds sterling for 10 gramms

its the active ingredient in "spice" which sells for 20pounds for 3 grams, but the spice is mostly herbs with a "little" sprinkle of jwh018.
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the product "spice" does have jwh-018 HOWEVER it is a large blend of synthetic chemicals...not big on me..BUT i did find some medical data for you guys...looks like a cool little drug.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/arc...p/t-74653.html some toxicological data
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:26 AM
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think i seen it for 400pounds sterling for 10 gramms

its the active ingredient in "spice" which sells for 20pounds for 3 grams, but the spice is mostly herbs with a "little" sprinkle of jwh018.
Not what I meant sir. This isn't available in my area so I'm considering monopolizing. How much could I sell 20mg for in an area completely untouched by 018?
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:30 AM
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figure this is way more powerful then THC and needs a lower dose to feel the effects...ive been using it for a bit now and the tolerance build up is quite fast. However, 20mg would give you a strong effect for about 2-3 hours if smoked all at once...I'm not a drug dealer so I dunno how much to price it at.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:31 AM
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figure this is way more powerful then THC and needs a lower dose to feel the effects...ive been using it for a bit now and the tolerance build up is quite fast. However, 20mg would give you a strong effect for about 2-3 hours if smoked all at once...I'm not a drug dealer so I dunno how much to price it at.
Well obviously you'd advise the customer to take 1-3mg at one time. It'd be like they're paying for 6 or 7 highs.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:21 AM
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20mg all at once seems fucking crazy much right now. i have heard mixed things about tolerance build. all i can say is its pretty fuckin awsome. im going to be aquiring a bulk order hopefully soon and start selling and when that happens i will keep anybody posted if they want to buy. PM me for details.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:53 AM
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With JWH you really do need to vape atleast 10mg to get a stoned as hell effect, Ive done 25mg Vapes of it before. Its great shit and well worth the money. We made JWH blotters too so you could get stoned anywhere. Each blotter had 5mg on it.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:20 AM
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it seems to have a pretty high vaporization temp. it doesnt work too well off of foil. we went to the gas station and bought a couple of those mini vape pipes with the little roses in them. those are perfect for this. you wont lose any smoke. but 10 is still a little high for starting dose. i suggest 4-5mg.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:40 AM
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Not what I meant sir. This isn't available in my area so I'm considering monopolizing. How much could I sell 20mg for in an area completely untouched by 018?
i was quoting a buying price that i had seen and pointing out you could make a smoke mix like spice

40pounds divided by 200 (5mg hits)= 20pence about 30cents

blotters sound easy. sell them for as much as you can!
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:49 PM
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this drug could do with a nickname, jwh-018 is a mouthfull and wiki dont have one listed so if we came up with one we could put it up on wiki and claim zoklet named it??

well here's my off the top of my head name for it:
jay wa hay
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:15 PM
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:17 PM
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That is really gay. I just call it JWH, even though there are many others such as JWH-081, JWH-073, etc.
jay wa hay, that is really gay, it ryhmes!

seriously tho, if you have to shout it all day at festies the W would become a pain and someone is probably going to name it so why not zoklet? like lsd-25 you drop the 25, but its also called loads of other things.

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Old 07-14-2009, 05:41 PM
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nick names for drugs suck, except bud everyone loves bud.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:54 PM
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You never call cocaine "coke"? When I was baked, I would always call weed "marijuana." It made a few dealers uneasy, I guess they thought I was an undercover.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:05 PM
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speed is good for amphetamines, and xtc is good for mdma, i guess some nick names suck if you dont know what the fuck people are talking about that is shit
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:32 PM
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Looks like you were wrong.
Its a short form nerdcock, and speed is a stupid name because it gives the idea that all amps are the same.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:43 PM
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Its a short form nerdcock, and speed is a stupid name because it gives the idea that all amps are the same.
yeah a lot of it is short form, but xtc is still a nick name and like I said drugs are probably going to be nicknamed so it may as well be done here...

did you ever see the brass eye episode about drugs? CAKE

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So whats the deal with JWH-018 and drug tests?
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:58 PM
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^use the search, I'm sure someone else mentions it in the other jwh thread,

comes up clean.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:01 PM
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^use the search, I'm sure someone else mentions it in the other jwh thread,

comes up clean.
Nice. I guessed it would or people would fail for smoking spice.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:27 PM
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bumps for JWH-018....ive been smoking this stuff strong and im really enjoying. i still have a good bit of my grass left. its just soo euphoric and the more you vape.....only good things soo far...................but be careful this is some crazy shit. vaping a lot of it at once is the same as if you smoke 4 g's in a sitting very quick.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:19 AM
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Most vendors do not ship to the US, is this correct? They generally have UK shipping and "international..." does anyone know the difference? I have never bought RCs from an online vendor, and have no idea what to think.
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I call it J-Dub.
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So...who wants to share some sources.......
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Remember no sources ..
I guess Jade is pretty good going on the theme of names like lucy, mary jane etc
And yeah with a decent tolerance 5mg will get me just stoned, 10 is getting pretty strong, once did like 25+ and was glued to my bed watching the chair in front of me expand to cover my whole vision swish-swashing about Now what's even better is mixing it with weed to balance it out, both of the highs really add to each other like with the weed to calm it down a bit and the jwh to provide the stimulation/euphoricness etc. It also saves on weed quite a bit as you can use way less.
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this stuff is legal......doesnt fall under analogues. why cant we post a source now? im sure the source would love it. this stuff is all over the net. can almost be sent worldwide. i think the posting of domestic sources should be legal and fine.

Edit: plus its the B0nzaI FeRt1liz0rrs
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this stuff is legal......doesnt fall under analogues. why cant we post a source now? im sure the source would love it. this stuff is all over the net. can almost be sent worldwide. i think the posting of domestic sources should be legal and fine.

Edit: plus its the B0nzaI FeRt1liz0rrs
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/fo...309/mg0309.pdf

First post in the microgram says you are wrong. It mentions HU-210 being illegal and then mentions jwh-018.

The RCMP has also said that it is already covered.
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i never thought in my early drug using years that i would ever get my hands on a synthetic cannabinoid. well friends, today i have and let me tell you......no where is off limits to just rape ur cb1 and cb2 receptors. the amount of euphoria given is pretty intense. i just feel fuckin amazing. i cant wait to eat this shit. i smoked maybe 4mg and about 6-7 minutes later i was fully blazed. straight on amazed at how awsome the high was. i dont kno why some people say theres no giddyness or gigglyness. i was laughing about everything i was thinkin of. very happy man. veryy happy. i have about maybe 2 grams of some 10 a g shit sitting next to a gram of jwh-018. i now look at the weed, as something to smoke after i vape my jwh.
Enjoy your damage, read the reports which have been posted, this stuff is aint good for you. It forms naphthalene in you IIRC, which well, is not a good thing.
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Enjoy your damage, read the reports which have been posted, this stuff is aint good for you. It forms naphthalene in you IIRC, which well, is not a good thing.
Yes, it forms napthalene, no it's not actually enough to cause massive toxicity, either acute or really even chronic as you're able to metabolise and excrete small amounts of napthalene with ease, yes it's got some very limited evidence of carcogenicity but it's unlikely to hurt you.

Single synthetic cannabinoids are something i've always found to be a bit lacking in completeness, although actually quite fun, and quite convenient with a gram providing a lot of bang for your bucks. In combination there's some good synergy and to people interested I'd be buying these up fast before widespread bans are slapped on them. 60 Euro a gram makes for a lot of doses, much more than you'd get from sixty quids worth of weed.

As far as combinations I'd recommend JWH-018 with HU-210. it can be a touch insanely strong though, after an ill advisedly strong dose of both of those a couple of days ago I was left clinging to my bed riding a psychedelic rollercoaster with my wife laughing her head off at me!
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Meh, up to you, one day you will be saying: "Oh , i should have listened to that 50 year old man, posing like a 13 year old boy about toxicity of JWH-018 and the sort"

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Meh, up to you, one day you will be saying: "Oh , i should have listened to that 50 year old man, posing like a 13 year old boy about toxicity of JWH-018 and the sort"

Yeah, I understand where you're kinda coming from on this, MPPP and it's resulting contamination with MPTP are definitely cases in point of unknown and potentially unpleasant side effects of research type chemicals.
That said a lot of these synthetic cannabinoids were first synthesised in the 70's and 80's, and by a lot of reputable academic institutions. Indeed they tend to be relatively well researched, with good enough and long term enough animal toxicity/side effect data to make an educated guess.

Indeed a fair few have had human trials as analgesics and anti-altzheimers disease type drugs and have shown good enough results without badly destroying people.

Having had a quick browse of what research is out there, I think that severe acute toxicity with any of the ones on the market currently is unlikely within normal dosage ranges. Chronic problems, well, 20 years of very sporadic is not enough to truthfully and honestly evaluate this fully, but I'd be willing to put money on there not being major problems.

You take new drugs you run the risk of damaging yourself. I've found this out myself with a few doses of PMA when the UK was awash with it in the early half of the 90's, which I'm sure did me absolutely no good! And while i'd never pass off anything as benign, I think JWH-018 and the like are probably not going to have any worse suprises that smoking pot has. It just doesn't have the hundreds of years of use to back it up yet.
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Yeah, I understand where you're kinda coming from on this, MPPP and it's resulting contamination with MPTP are definitely cases in point of unknown and potentially unpleasant side effects of research type chemicals.
That said a lot of these synthetic cannabinoids were first synthesised in the 70's and 80's, and by a lot of reputable academic institutions. Indeed they tend to be relatively well researched, with good enough and long term enough animal toxicity/side effect data to make an educated guess.

Indeed a fair few have had human trials as analgesics and anti-altzheimers disease type drugs and have shown good enough results without badly destroying people.

Having had a quick browse of what research is out there, I think that severe acute toxicity with any of the ones on the market currently is unlikely within normal dosage ranges. Chronic problems, well, 20 years of very sporadic is not enough to truthfully and honestly evaluate this fully, but I'd be willing to put money on there not being major problems.

You take new drugs you run the risk of damaging yourself. I've found this out myself with a few doses of PMA when the UK was awash with it in the early half of the 90's, which I'm sure did me absolutely no good! And while i'd never pass off anything as benign, I think JWH-018 and the like are probably not going to have any worse suprises that smoking pot has. It just doesn't have the hundreds of years of use to back it up yet.
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Enjoy your damage, read the reports which have been posted, this stuff is aint good for you. It forms naphthalene in you IIRC, which well, is not a good thing.
No, it forms the naphthalene epoxide (the naphthalene is still attached to the rest of the molecule) which then cross-links your DNA. At least that's what most speculation is coming to (but I studied this like 5 months ago, maybe there's new research I haven't seen); the hydroxylated JWH-018 is definitely a byproduct, and I think straight naphthalene would be difficult to form since there's already a carbonyl carbon attached.

Also, the moron who linked to microgram can't read--it's legal.

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No, it forms the naphthalene epoxide (the naphthalene is still attached to the rest of the molecule) which then cross-links your DNA. At least that's what most speculation is coming to (but I studied this like 5 months ago, maybe there's new research I haven't seen); the hydroxylated JWH-018 is definitely a byproduct, and I think straight naphthalene would be difficult to form since there's already a carbonyl carbon attached.
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