IVing methadone

[Clover]

Is there any reason (besides all the obvious reasons you should NOT IV pills) that one should not IV methadone? I've heard a friend say he IV'd one and got fucked up, but he's a fucking idiot and would do anything to get high. The pills are relatively small, and I'm just wondering if these pills are worst to IV than say, oxycontin or the like. And I'm talking about these 10 MG pills:

[studious_redux]

Back in the bad ol' days I'd IV them if I had them and no brown. Not the best idea in the world, sollubility of methadone HCL is pretty good in water so just the usual pill IV precautions (wheel filter) are necessary. If anything probably actually better than OC to IV.
But IV methadone has no real rush,indeed mine used to be mixed with cyclizine to make up for that. No effects much better than oral. And methadone has a looong halflife and acumulates easily, so it's actually quite easy to build up to a toxic dose.
So in short IV isn't going to kill you. it's not the most healthy of habits but hey, IV anything isn't really.

[Clover]

Originally Posted by studious_redux

Back in the bad ol' days I'd IV them if I had them and no brown. Not the best idea in the world, sollubility of methadone HCL is pretty good in water so just the usual pill IV precautions (wheel filter) are necessary. If anything probably actually better than OC to IV.
But IV methadone has no real rush,indeed mine used to be mixed with cyclizine to make up for that. No effects much better than oral. And methadone has a looong halflife and acumulates easily, so it's actually quite easy to build up to a toxic dose.
So in short IV isn't going to kill you. it's not the most healthy of habits but hey, IV anything isn't really.

Yeah, I went from brown to methadone, and now I'm on a small dose and am about off of it, but MAN had I known that methadone would have actually been safer to shoot than OC I would have done it with my last 2 pills last night! Well, I've got a girl bringing me a couple more here in a minute, and I have 2 clean needles and I kinda just want to use them and get rid of em, y'know?

I don't have a wheel filter, but I have cotton. I've never been able to find any wheel filters anywhere :\.

[studious_redux]

Originally Posted by Clover

Yeah, I went from brown to methadone, and now I'm on a small dose and am about off of it, but MAN had I known that methadone would have actually been safer to shoot than OC I would have done it with my last 2 pills last night! Well, I've got a girl bringing me a couple more here in a minute, and I have 2 clean needles and I kinda just want to use them and get rid of em, y'know?

I don't have a wheel filter, but I have cotton. I've never been able to find any wheel filters anywhere :\.

Wheel filters are normally available from a good needle exchange if you tell them you're shooting pills, or you can buy them online, they're a touch pricy, but from someone who's been slaming a lot of OC daily for many, many months I dread to think what my veins would look like had I not had them, plus lungs/heart full of insoluble tablet particles isn't the nicest idea of fun.
The advantage of being a healthcare professional is that clean sharps and niceties like wheel filters are easily obtained.

That said, a couple of runs through cottons, with a clean one each time, although it won't remove the bacteria/viruses/microparticles a wheel filter will, it's actually normally enough to get a solution of pills into one which is particle free enough for the average user to not screw themselves up too much providing you're not doing it often.

[Clover]

Originally Posted by studious_redux

Wheel filters are normally available from a good needle exchange if you tell them you're shooting pills, or you can buy them online, they're a touch pricy, but from someone who's been slaming a lot of OC daily for many, many months I dread to think what my veins would look like had I not had them, plus lungs/heart full of insoluble tablet particles isn't the nicest idea of fun.
The advantage of being a healthcare professional is that clean sharps and niceties like wheel filters are easily obtained.

That said, a couple of runs through cottons, with a clean one each time, although it won't remove the bacteria/viruses/microparticles a wheel filter will, it's actually normally enough to get a solution of pills into one which is particle free enough for the average user to not screw themselves up too much providing you're not doing it often.

I only plan on doing it this one time, but no there are no needle exchanges or anything like that anywhere around here, in fact there's only one pharmacy outside of city limits that will even consider selling syringes, even then I've been ID'd (donno why...I think they just record my information, but I'm 21 so age isn't an issue there).

[Clover]

Waste. It was so thick, even after using a whole syringe full of water to water it down that I couldn't draw it up. I managed to get half of it drawn up after about a half hour, shot that and just watered the rest of what was in the spoon down and ate it. It does seem to have hit me much harder though.

[h0ppinlowrider]

There is no rush when IVing methadone. Kami did it back in the day and said its the same as just eating the pill really.

[studious_redux]

Originally Posted by Clover

Waste. It was so thick, even after using a whole syringe full of water to water it down that I couldn't draw it up. I managed to get half of it drawn up after about a half hour, shot that and just watered the rest of what was in the spoon down and ate it. It does seem to have hit me much harder though.

See thats the problem when shooting pills with tiny li'l 100iu insulin rigs. Pills need a fair amount of water to actually get into a point where the suspension can be filtered properly. When I'm shooting OC, for 2 20mg pills I tend to use 5ml plus of water and a winged infusion set to give a large volume slowly into a big vein. the 1ml or so of water you get in a 100iu rig just isn't enough to thin out the solution to filter it properly.

Large volumes of infusion are a double edged sword though, as 5ml of fluid injected quickly into a small vein with a torniquet on will just blow it. However larger volumes of more dilute fluid are a bit less unpleasant if you miss hits in terms of causing tissue necrosis, plus it's a bit less irritant to your veins so they don't thrombose as easily.

TBH, methadone alone isn't worth it. Methadone with 100mg of cyclizine is!